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Edward K
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:24 pm 
 

The Ardbeg Wizard wrote:


So how do you folks like this Northern Dutch black metal band?


I loved this! They remind me a lot of Gevurah vocally (see video I posted above).

Does anyone know any bands similar to
Sons of Fenris


Wod


or Ugulishi?


I'm also still looking for bands that sound similar to Obolus.
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HomicidalBreath
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:12 pm 
 

looking for modern black metal like Marduk's mid and later stuff, some modern melodic black or melodic black/death would be appreciated as well. I say modern because I'm not really in the mood for raw production

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:16 pm 
 

HomicidalBreath wrote:
looking for modern black metal like Marduk's mid and later stuff, some modern melodic black or melodic black/death would be appreciated as well. I say modern because I'm not really in the mood for raw production



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The Ardbeg Wizard
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:40 am 
 

HomicidalBreath wrote:
looking for modern black metal like Marduk's mid and later stuff, some modern melodic black or melodic black/death would be appreciated as well. I say modern because I'm not really in the mood for raw production


Modern can be raw ;) Anyway:


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HomicidalBreath
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:56 pm 
 

MalignantTyrant wrote:
HomicidalBreath wrote:
looking for modern black metal like Marduk's mid and later stuff, some modern melodic black or melodic black/death would be appreciated as well. I say modern because I'm not really in the mood for raw production





just because my rank on the forum is metal newbie doesn't mean im an actual noob :P

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pefak
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:59 pm 
 

iamntbatman wrote:
Not really pure BM (it's got prominent viking/folk elements) but SIG:AR:TYR has a lot of shreddy virtuoso solos.

Solo is at 5:20 in this one:


Great recommendation. Thanks for that!

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Malthus
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:14 pm 
 

HomicidalBreath wrote:
looking for modern black metal like Marduk's mid and later stuff, some modern melodic black or melodic black/death would be appreciated as well. I say modern because I'm not really in the mood for raw production


Deus Mortem!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVrtxkHWjAg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddjDfOULoGY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m5vCmiwNPc

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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:19 pm 
 

HomicidalBreath: Familiar with Valoton? I feel like I've recommended them too much here, but they seem to fit for a fair amount of requests. In terms of songwriting, I consider them to be far superior to Marduk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnRdRZvnJGU
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BURlAL
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:56 pm 
 

HomicidalBreath wrote:
looking for modern black metal like Marduk's mid and later stuff, some modern melodic black or melodic black/death would be appreciated as well. I say modern because I'm not really in the mood for raw production


Maybe...


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Karlabos
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:02 pm 
 

Is there such thing as nu black metal? Black metal blended with nu metal?
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The Ardbeg Wizard
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:06 pm 
 

Karlabos wrote:
Is there such thing as nu black metal? Black metal blended with nu metal?
(Plzdontkickme)


You're joking, right?
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vengefulgoat
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:38 am 
 

Well, there is shit out there like black metal mixed with jazz, rock and roll, crust, post rock etc so I don't see why someone open minded wouldn't come up with such abomination.
I've seen White Stone off Maranatha described pejoratively as such. Oh and Plaga on new album has some raplike vocal flow. But of course none of these have anything to do with nu metal.

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vengefulgoat
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:54 am 
 

Zeating wrote:
Looking for very misanthropic hateful black metal, no specific style just some stuff that wreaks of human disgust. any suggestions?

Szron

Latest album Death Camp Earth is really amazing (Zeal was disappointing), filled with honest hate for the human race. Unlike most of the misanthropy oriented BM, they make really good music that doesn't hide behind the 'atmospheric' style.

This is some fanmade slideshow that's really accurate for the music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjOnhbs8rpY
In this song, particularly the riff around 3 minute mark makes you feel like you're listening to Possessed's Exorcist for the first time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYXb3Yw206o
there are 2 more songs, and 2 more leftover material that was released on split with Martwa Aura.

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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:36 am 
 

Karlabos wrote:
Is there such thing as nu black metal? Black metal blended with nu metal?
(Plzdontkickme)

There are bands with that kind of elements. I'm sorry, I can't recall any names, but it is a thing, albeit a very minor one I think.

I remember that at one point some people called Mayhem's Chimera mallcore black metal.
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The Ardbeg Wizard
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:03 am 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Karlabos wrote:
Is there such thing as nu black metal? Black metal blended with nu metal?
(Plzdontkickme)


I remember that at one point some people called Mayhem's Chimera mallcore black metal.


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Edward K
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:45 am 
 

Karlabos wrote:
Is there such thing as nu black metal? Black metal blended with nu metal?
(Plzdontkickme)


Yes.
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Karlabos
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:33 pm 
 

^Ha. The Dimmu Borgir one got me.
But really, it was a genuine request. I was lsitening to this and the thought occurred me that such a mix would sound good. (Yeah, I know, this is more like death metal with alternative rock though...)
I've heard Mayhem's Chimera and the Plaga's material, but not what I was looking for, unfortunately. \=

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Edward K
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:23 pm 
 

Sorry dude, I couldn't help myself. I don't know. I've tried doing some research, but I couldn't find anything. I think the only chance you'll get is by sifting through the endless waves of post/experimental black metal bands out there, although most of the bands who play in that style usually stick to a more ambient and post-rock style. Sorry I'm not much help.
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Karlabos
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:31 am 
 

It's okay. I guess it's something that it's yet to be done after all.

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FaultyClockwork
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:43 pm 
 

Looking for stuff like Nattfog:



Basically, raw, atmospheric BM in the Burzum tradition with memorable melodies, thick atmosphere and a real aura of melancholy and darkness. I'm not looking for melodies alone, but really the whole mood that Nattfog delivers. Bonus points if there's an ambient or dungeon synth track on there as well, I love it when ambient BM bands do that.

Also, while I know it's ironic to ask this given the black suns on the cover and the split with Nekrokrist SS, I'd request you keep suggested bands apolitical if possible. And yes, I've heard the pre-Nattfog project Norns.

Thanks!

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iamntbatman
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:38 pm 
 

Förgjord might be what you're looking for:

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Edward K
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:08 pm 
 

Karlabos wrote:
It's okay. I guess it's something that it's yet to be done after all.


Hey dude, what do you think of this?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:23 pm 
 

FaultyClockwork wrote:
Basically, raw, atmospheric BM...with memorable melodies, thick atmosphere and a real aura of melancholy and darkness...Bonus points if there's an ambient or dungeon synth track on there as well, I love it when ambient BM bands do that...I'd request you keep suggested bands apolitical if possible.


Try Grifteskymfning or Battle Dagorath.
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The Ardbeg Wizard
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:43 pm 
 

I'm looking for obscure black metal in the vein of this:



Atmospheric, hypnotic, a bit Urfaust-ish passages. No Satanic/evil/kvlt lyrics. Rather folktale/stories of the old.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:53 pm 
 

FaultyClockwork wrote:
Looking for stuff like Nattfog:



Basically, raw, atmospheric BM in the Burzum tradition with memorable melodies, thick atmosphere and a real aura of melancholy and darkness. I'm not looking for melodies alone, but really the whole mood that Nattfog delivers. Bonus points if there's an ambient or dungeon synth track on there as well, I love it when ambient BM bands do that.

Also, while I know it's ironic to ask this given the black suns on the cover and the split with Nekrokrist SS, I'd request you keep suggested bands apolitical if possible. And yes, I've heard the pre-Nattfog project Norns.

Thanks!


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androdion
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:06 pm 
 

Back again for a picky request. I seem to drop by every two weeks, he he.

So, I'm really really picky when it comes to symphonic black. I like Emperor, Sirius' debut and Odium; and that's about it. I have heard more than that, it's just that nothing seems to spike my interest. Stuff like Limbonic Art is too theatrical and over-the-top for me, modern stuff like Carach Angren I just find an utter disgrace (I've heard their latest several times and it sounds like Nightwish being played through a BM filter, really...), Obtained Enslavement or Troll I was never able to properly enjoy, and stuff like COF or Dimmu just goes in one ear and out of the other.

Basically I've searched for some time for more symphonic black and all I get is either too theatrical or too raw. That's why I like the three bands I listed above, because of how they manage to strike a balance between aggression and melody, rawness and warmth, guitar oriented and keyboard driven passages. Know what I mean? Odium and Sirius are actually a perfect match, and more stuff that captures a similar balance as those two (and the obvious first couple of Emperor albums as well) manage to do would be great. Note that I'm asking specifically for symphonic black, not "just" black metal with some symphonic elements. I want keys in my black! :lol:

Anything out there for me? ;)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:07 pm 
 

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That's why I like the three bands I listed above, because of how they manage to strike a balance between aggression and melody, rawness and warmth, guitar oriented and keyboard driven passages.


I generally have the same feelings about keyboards in black metal. Two bands that immediately come to mind are False and Wodensthrone. Might not be symphonic enough for your tastes, but the keys are definitely a driving force behind the music.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:30 pm 
 

narsilianshard wrote:
androdion wrote:
That's why I like the three bands I listed above, because of how they manage to strike a balance between aggression and melody, rawness and warmth, guitar oriented and keyboard driven passages.


I generally have the same feelings about keyboards in black metal. Two bands that immediately come to mind are False and Wodensthrone. Might not be symphonic enough for your tastes, but the keys are definitely a driving force behind the music.

False is so so, although it has some nice details here and there, while Wodensthrone is enjoyable for a while. Both share some similar traits in terms of songwriting, and I understand what you mean by saying that the keys are a driving force. Yet they're buried in the mix and work more as a background layer to add to the atmosphere. The guitars are what's driving the songs forward in here, not that that's a bad thing but it's not what I'm looking for. This is more like atmoblack and I really wanted something upfront symphonic.

Thanks for the effort though.
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Karlabos
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:01 pm 
 

Edward K wrote:
Hey dude, what do you think of this?


I don't know... It sounds more like sludge... Progressive sludge.
Besides, I would like the good old harsh vocals also =P
But thanks for the rec.

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FaultyClockwork
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:09 pm 
 

Thanks for the recs! As far as how I feel:

Förgjord: I know/like Förgjord, though I haven't heard their second album. A bit more aggressive than what I'm looking for but still good.

Grifteskymfning: Very good stuff which I will be digging into, but not what I'm looking for here. Again, a bit too aggressive.

Battle Dagorath: Again, good, and I liked the slower tempo parts but feels closer to like, Paysage d'Hiver than Nattfog.

Evil: Pretty good, but aren't they NS?

Morthond: Much closer to what I'm looking for, though I think I'd like something more mid-tempo. Still, I dig it.

Unhuman Disease: The more midtempo parts of this really get at what I want. Overall I dig it.

Moonkult: Not really a fan of these guys, sorry!


Anyway, I think I'd have to say more mid-tempo might be what I'm looking for? Regardless, I enjoy some of these bands quite a bit.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:16 pm 
 

Evil is not NS as far as I know. Lyrical themes: Paganism, Nietzschean, War

Try some (later) Aboriorth & Zwartplaag, also maybe Blodulv and Inferi (Fin). I can't really pick out songs at the moment since I'm on a laptop with speakers that just make everything sound like fuzz and I left my headphones at home. Edit: Assuming you already know of Blood Red Fog
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Does anyone want to pitch in for my request?! ;)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:15 pm 
 

androdion wrote:
Does anyone want to pitch in for my request?! ;)
Do you like Ceremonial Castings?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:26 pm 
 

If anyone has the CD booklet to the Sargeist album Let the Devil In in arms reach, could I bother you to check it out and see who wrote the lyrics for me? It would be greatly appreciated :)
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androdion
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:49 pm 
 

Grimbeard wrote:
androdion wrote:
Does anyone want to pitch in for my request?! ;)
Do you like Ceremonial Castings?

Not really, they're kind of hit and miss for me. I've given Barbaric Is The Beast a few shots, and while I do find enjoyment in some of the sections the big picture doesn't do much for me.
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Hymnofwolves
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:39 pm 
 

Androdion,
are you familiar with Lunar Aurora?

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androdion
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Only thing I've heard by them was Andacht. Is their old stuff any different?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:52 pm 
 

I would say yes. Andacht is rather polished and more modern sounding. Their earlier works are more raw and ghostly, Zyklus being my favorite but also Elixer of Sorrow is very good. I am not too familiar with their output before Elixer.. but I am sure others here could give an apt description.

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androdion
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I'll give those two a look, thanks. ;)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:16 pm 
 

androdion wrote:
Does anyone want to pitch in for my request?! ;)


Are you familiar with Parnassus?

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