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EvilMeat
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:25 am 
 

That'll keep me busy. Thanks a lot.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:44 am 
 

Man, a while back everyone was talking about this band (think they're Italian, but not sure) that mixed black metal with electronic (think it was psybient, but again, not sure) in a way that was miraculously actually tasteful and interesting. Does anyone remember the name of this band, I'd like to give it a few more listens.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:47 am 
 

dystopia4 wrote:
Man, a while back everyone was talking about this band (think they're Italian, but not sure) that mixed black metal with electronic (think it was psybient, but again, not sure) in a way that was miraculously actually tasteful and interesting. Does anyone remember the name of this band, I'd like to give it a few more listens.

Progenie Terrestre Pura mate. Can't get anywhere wrong with that description. :p
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Thank you sir, that would be the one.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:45 pm 
 

Can anybody recommend some good ambient/atmospheric black metal? I've fallen in love with the stuff lately. Looking for stuff in the vein of Wolves in the Throne Room, Weakling, Coldworld, and Abigail Williams.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:17 pm 
 

KingVile wrote:
Can anybody recommend some good ambient/atmospheric black metal? I've fallen in love with the stuff lately. Looking for stuff in the vein of Wolves in the Throne Room, Weakling, Coldworld, and Abigail Williams.


Vemod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgG0-n1Bsm4
Dense, ethereal Atmospheric Black Metal

Wormlust- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLQigEijit0
Progg-y, thick, intense Atmospheric Black Metal

Rahu- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO4ZywyEUkg
Spacey, intense, foggy Atmospheric Black Metal

Leucosis- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usz2Oi8wpbk
Just awesome

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KingVile wrote:
Can anybody recommend some good ambient/atmospheric black metal? I've fallen in love with the stuff lately. Looking for stuff in the vein of Wolves in the Throne Room, Weakling, Coldworld, and Abigail Williams.

Vallendusk
http://pestproductions.bandcamp.com/album/vallendusk
http://pestproductions.bandcamp.com/alb ... -gathering

Ashborer
http://ashborer.bandcamp.com/

Sadhaka
http://sadhaka108.bandcamp.com/
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:28 pm 
 

HOW ABOUT SOME STUPIDLY FAST BLACK METAL!

I find this kind of music to be really amusing. Everyone knows of Marduk so please dont rec them! And please no drum machines!

Id liek to find something from the early 2000s or late 90's too. Bands that come to mind are groups like Mater Tenebra and Demonic Chorals. Another band like them would be awesome!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:52 am 
 

Stupid fast. Often stupid stupid, too:

Black Dawn

Diamatregon

Kult ov Azazel

Celebratum

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:24 am 
 

raveneyeslikemirrors wrote:
HOW ABOUT SOME STUPIDLY FAST BLACK METAL!

I find this kind of music to be really amusing. Everyone knows of Marduk so please dont rec them! And please no drum machines!

Id liek to find something from the early 2000s or late 90's too. Bands that come to mind are groups like Mater Tenebra and Demonic Chorals. Another band like them would be awesome!

Most Besatt albums, earlyCirith Gorgor albums, Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult, Endstille, Eternal Majesty, Olc Sinnsir. Probably other more obvious ones.

Edit: Thy Primordial was another amazing fast black metal band and I wish they were still around

There I added some links for what I could find a good example of
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:34 am 
 

Hi all. I have a bit of an odd request. Do you know of anyone who has basically taken two black metal tunes, specifically some blast beat sections and mixed them over one another? I had this idea the other day and I think you could get some cool effects.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:06 pm 
 

KingVile wrote:
Can anybody recommend some good ambient/atmospheric black metal? I've fallen in love with the stuff lately. Looking for stuff in the vein of Wolves in the Throne Room, Weakling, Coldworld, and Abigail Williams.


Check out the post right above you, Progenie Terrestre Pura's U.M.A. is my favorite Black Metal release this year, really cool and unique sense of atmosphere. If you dont mind plenty of effects and a drum machine, You can listen to it on their bandcamp.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:04 pm 
 

I've got a paradoxically easy, but difficult request. I'm looking for something like Mayhem's track "De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas." Fast, alive with atmosphere (scratchy, yet warm with audible bass), describable; even catchy riffing, and charismatic and dangerous vocals. Stuff from the 90's prefered.

I know pretty much all the big names in current and old black metal, so this is a bit of a tough request. Vocals similar to Attila's are a big plus, but one of the major things I'm after is the masterful combo of riffs and atmosphere; not overtly melodic like Mgla and definitely not as clean sounding.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:00 pm 
 

FleshMonolith wrote:
... something like Mayhem's track "De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas." ... I know pretty much all the big names in current and old black metal... Vocals similar to Attila's are a big plus...

Can I assume you already know Frost's "Cursed Again" album? By far the most obvious DMDS worship I've heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1auaYtE_Ig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AzkwKUpJ2w
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:10 pm 
 

Behexen's By The Blessing Of Satan is the best DMDS-esque black metal I know. Well, you know the album too, I'm sure of that.

raveneyeslikemirrors wrote:
HOW ABOUT SOME STUPIDLY FAST BLACK METAL!

I find this kind of music to be really amusing. Everyone knows of Marduk so please dont rec them! And please no drum machines!

Id liek to find something from the early 2000s or late 90's too. Bands that come to mind are groups like Mater Tenebra and Demonic Chorals. Another band like them would be awesome!

Is Thunderbolt fast enough? Here's also Infernal War: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPTpbfslGpk

Voidhanger is similar to the above bands, but not fast enough for the request perhaps.

Valoton is a rather fast band with excellent riffs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCb0mE2B_6s
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:28 pm 
 

balbulus wrote:
Can I assume you already know Frost's "Cursed Again" album? By far the most obvious DMDS worship I've heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1auaYtE_Ig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AzkwKUpJ2w


Yeah, know this one. Never gave it a fair shot though (like many I'm sure I checked it out just because of Attila). but jeez, maybe it's too good of a rec as it sounds like leftover songs from DMDS. Still not hitting it though.

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Behexen's By The Blessing Of Satan is the best DMDS-esque black metal I know. Well, you know the album too, I'm sure of that.


I absolutely LOVE Horna and Sargiest, but I find Behexen offensively boring and uninspired.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:31 pm 
 

FleshMonolith wrote:
Ilwhyan wrote:
Behexen's By The Blessing Of Satan is the best DMDS-esque black metal I know. Well, you know the album too, I'm sure of that.


I absolutely LOVE Horna and Sargiest, but I find Behexen offensively boring and uninspired.
Then have you listened to By The Blessing of Satan? The album surpasses everything Horna and Sargeist have ever made in terms of intensity, and it has some very classic black metal riffing.

Well. I don't want to insist with it if you say you don't like it. It seems strange to me, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:41 pm 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Then have you listened to By The Blessing of Satan? The album surpasses everything Horna and Sargeist have ever made in terms of intensity, and it has some very classic black metal riffing.

Well. I don't want to insist with it if you say you don't like it. It seems strange to me, though.


It's an album plagued with a bad production. Vocals/drums are too loud and the guitar tone is weak and too trebly and it's hard to discern the riffs (which generally seem to be good). The one thing I like about it is the bass, I actually really love that bass-but for wholly other reasons then why I set off here in the first place. I appreciate your recs though, maybe I've been too harsh on these fellas (always liked the first track off their split with Horna- and Horna's side on that split is some of the best bm ever). But again, not what I'm after. Denser production the better, this is on the other spectrum (and the vocals aren't there).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:47 pm 
 

On the DMDS tip, I've only heard of, never heard, an album on the Oaken Shield label by the French band Nebel, called Hymns of Destruction, which supposedly was a "spot-on reworking/reconfiguration" of the Mayhem classic -- at least according to an old Metal Maniacs reviewer whose black metal opinions I almost always agreed with 100% (Nathan Birk). Good luck finding it; it's not even on Youtube.

Myself, I think Nagelfar's Virus West has some occasional DMDS-isms that might not be obvious on first listen. The grainy atmosphere, the hypnotic guitars with a paradoxically warm/cold tone and audible bass, the occasional pseudo-operatic baritones -- all there, especially on "Faden des Schicksals" and "Hellbarn", the latter actually having some of the sniveling gremlin vocals Attila employed through much of DMDS.

edit: I also am in that category of people who almost unconditionally love not just traditional black metal but Finnish black metal specifically, and I just can't get into Behexen. It's like there's some kind of subliminal tone in the music that shuts off the part of my brain receptive to black metal's charm. Mysterious.

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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:00 pm 
 

I've always found the production to be nearly ideal for black metal. Strange how opinion work, eh?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:08 pm 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
I've always found the production to be nearly ideal for black metal. Strange how opinion work, eh?

By The Blessing Of Satan is perfect... Nothing bad about the production at all IMO also, it's one of the only albums where you really don't need to turn the treble up actually. "Celebration of Christ's Fall" is one of my favorite songs ever.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:18 pm 
 

This Nebel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GevoHXm19YQ

Digging this, production/guitar tone's more what I'm after, along with the vocals and drums (not those inane hyper blasts Behexen had). Might have to buy this cd, although I'd rather just buy the mp3s.

As for Bm production, 3 of my favorite productions are A Blaze in the Northern Sky, DMDS, and Horna's side of their split with Behexen (live takes are awesome). That Behexen CD is just overbearing.

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Also, 1349's Liberation's really up my alley. The perfect mixture of cacophonous drums, scratchy guitars and a foreboding low-end. I guess that's another DMDS inspiree.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:24 pm 
 

FleshMonolith wrote:


Well I'll be. Apparently so! I have no idea what the "HC" is. A weird abbreviation for "Holocaust" or "Hecatomb"? Either way, thanks for finding that, ha. It definitely has that DMDS style and sound.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:28 pm 
 

^Understandable, never knew that Horna side of the Behexen split was a "live" recording but makes sense due to how it sounds. Those other albums (besides DMDS) definitely have that dirty, lo-fi production

Edit: whoops someone got a post in before me so ^x2
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:36 pm 
 

Sick6Six wrote:
never knew that Horna side of the Behexen split was a "live" recording but makes sense due to how it sounds.


both sides of the split are live studio recordings, meaning they were full takes, something that I think is way more "tr0000000" than anything else.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:43 pm 
 

FleshMonolith wrote:
Sick6Six wrote:
never knew that Horna side of the Behexen split was a "live" recording but makes sense due to how it sounds.


both sides of the split are live studio recordings, meaning they were full takes, something that I think is way more "tr0000000" than anything else.

Yeah that's badass, I love that split.
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Popping in not to request a rec but rather to just bring attention to an album that most of you probably haven't heard of (yes, even STORMM :o ) -- Heulend Horn - Fragments from the 13th Century. This Argentinian one-man project is the creation of a guy with a separate symphonic dungeon synth band called Mitternacht, and you can hear the influence of that sound in the harmonic/melodic choices on show in this medieval-tinged slab of imaginative, pagan-y black metal. This basically sounds like a more compositionally creative Graveland, with that same grim chainmail vibe, but it's a more varied experience that manages to avoid the monotonous feeling that one sometimes gets from Darken's works. A really nice blend of dark, cold riffwork with ancient instrumental/symphonic narrative passages, medieval-ish interludes, all quite tastefully done despite some noticeable production limitations. Interesting find! Definitely recommended for fans of Graveland or the recent Emyn Muil debut, or just anyone looking for black metal that evokes an unusual, shadowy medieval atmosphere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L53YJzj3O2E
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Under_Starmere wrote:
Popping in not to request a rec but rather to just bring attention to an album that most of you probably haven't heard of (yes, even STORMM :o ) -- Heulend Horn - Fragments from the 13th Century. This Argentinian one-man project is the creation of a guy with a separate symphonic dungeon synth band called Mitternacht, and you can hear the influence of that sound in the harmonic/melodic choices on show in this medieval-tinged slab of imaginative, pagan-y black metal. This basically sounds like a more compositionally creative Graveland, with that same grim chainmail vibe, but it's a more varied experience that manages to avoid the monotonous feeling that one sometimes gets from Darken's works. A really nice blend of dark, cold riffwork with ancient instrumental/symphonic narrative passages, medieval-ish interludes, all quite tastefully done despite some noticeable production limitations. Interesting find! Definitely recommended for fans of Graveland or the recent Emyn Muil debut, or just anyone looking for black metal that evokes an unusual, shadowy medieval atmosphere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L53YJzj3O2E


Thanks for the heads up Starmere, while being familiar with Mitternacht I dont think I can say the same for Heulend Horn? Though your discription sounds very interesting and something that should be right up my street, especially as I was somewhat dissappointed with Thunderbolts from the Gods, it was an ok listen to be fair but I just could not get past Darken's new approach to the drums, they seemed more over the place than ever and very loud in the mix, not that percussion has been one of his strong points lol Will check this out after work mate, cheers!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:42 am 
 

raveneyeslikemirrors wrote:
HOW ABOUT SOME STUPIDLY FAST BLACK METAL!

I find this kind of music to be really amusing. Everyone knows of Marduk so please dont rec them! And please no drum machines!



Waltz_of_Ghouls wrote:
Alright, for the past few days I've been on "Swedish black metal" kick, stuff like later Marduk, Ondskapt, Funeral Mist, Mortuus, Watain and Ofermod. I'm not sure how I would describe this sound, maybe aggressive, bass-y somewhat well produced black metal. So I'd like to discover other bands that would fit the bill.


Check out Sorhin guys, especially the debut album, should fit your discriptions.

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Who's got some stuff like Antediluvian, Negative Plane, Cultes Des Ghoules, etc?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:03 am 
 

Svartidauði is the classic answer.

Most of the band in that style are death metal with black elements. Impetuous Ritual, Adversarial, Sonne Adam, Maveth, Muknal, Void Meditation Cult. Some of the bands make it somewhat difficult to draw the line. Try S.V.E.S.T. for something pretty black.
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Thanks brother!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:15 am 
 

STORMM wrote:

Check out Sorhin guys, especially the debut album, should fit your discriptions.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Sorhin pwns but they are still "on hold" :(
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I really like Kaevum. I got into them a while ago already, but I've kept returning to Natur over and over again. It's really an underground classic of the genre. The album has very raw sounds, but everything sounds powerful. It's hateful black metal, but it's still wrought with melodically pleasant material and great atmosphere.
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looking for more current stuff that's like Archgoat, Revenge, and Ruin Lust but without so much goddamn reverb abuse. "moshable" sections are a big plus (picture how Revenge likes to start-stop). Also, atypical vocals for the genre are a big plus (i.e. no Blasphemy clones please).
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FleshMonolith wrote:
looking for more current stuff that's like Archgoat, Revenge, and Ruin Lust but without so much goddamn reverb abuse. "moshable" sections are a big plus (picture how Revenge likes to start-stop). Also, atypical vocals for the genre are a big plus (i.e. no Blasphemy clones please).


Maybe this:



Possibly more (too?) obvious, but GoatPenis might do it for you:


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KingVile wrote:
Can anybody recommend some good ambient/atmospheric black metal? I've fallen in love with the stuff lately. Looking for stuff in the vein of Wolves in the Throne Room, Weakling, Coldworld, and Abigail Williams.



my first suggestion would be Evilfeast, but you probably know them already. Try Ellende, although they might not be as atmospheric as you want it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiyMge2uL-A

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Guitarpro77889 wrote:
KingVile wrote:
Can anybody recommend some good ambient/atmospheric black metal? I've fallen in love with the stuff lately. Looking for stuff in the vein of Wolves in the Throne Room, Weakling, Coldworld, and Abigail Williams.



my first suggestion would be Evilfeast, but you probably know them already. Try Ellende, although they might not be as atmospheric as you want it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiyMge2uL-A
If you like Ellende try Apocynthion. On a side not I just got Ellene's new digi and it is very nice.
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Anything like Inquisition, specifically latter Inquisition ?
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Well, lots of people point out Immortal as a strong influence, which is definitely there. The closest thing I know of is Siculicidium, but their riffs are something like a mixture of Inquisition's groovy chords and more traditional European riffing styles. They've also got really dry, monotone vocals that are sort of like Dagon's. Unfortunately they're just not really anywhere near as good as Inquisition, if you ask me.

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