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Sick6Six
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:03 pm 
 

SadisticGratification wrote:
Looking for some black metal, vocals preferably deeper than the typical black metal. Plenty of melody and good hooks and clean and good production is a plus but it can be more lo fi. Anyone any suggestions?

I'm not really up to scratch with black metal, the only black metal CD's I own are by Rotting Christ(hardly fully black metal) and Weapon who are more blackened death. I do like the atmosphere it creates, it's a nice contrast to the visceral crushing atmosphere in death metal.

A little late, but made me think of Moonkult. I reviewed their new album recently. I think it's pretty awesome, better than the 85% I gave it probably.
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taufan99
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:27 am 
 

Looking for modern bands with good avant-garde and/or experimental sound(s) like Deathspell Omega and Kekal.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:59 pm 
 

If you like DsO for their dissonance then you might like Svartidauði.


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BlackMetalMilitia
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:56 am 
 

My recommendations for anyone trying to get into black metal:

In my mind, these albums influence black metal most:

Bathory - Bathory
-Doesn't really need to be explained that much further. Pretty much invented everything else to the genre except its name and lyrical name. How 99% of black metal sounds.

Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi
-In my opinion, first actual viking/black metal album. Bathory did something like this before but not with the same intensity as these Norwegians. Brutal stuff.

Sacramentum - Far away from the sun
-Just fascinating album. It has all the basic components at their supreme. Vocals, drums and riffs. Everything. It has no keys yet has very clear melodies and beautiful ones. Of course, this album demands so much patience from its listener. I didn't like this album that much at my first listen. But since then, experience has been growing and this masterpiece just keeps producing new nyances. I think no band will ever be able to make something like this, no matter how hard they'd try.

Windir - Arntor
-In my opinion, this viking/black metal album has most beautiful melodies of all metal. As a nordic man, I always feel arriving home when I listen. And im not even Norwegian. Yet this album has massive melancholy and darkness at same time. Brilliant masterpiece.

Emperor - Anthems to the welkin at dusk
-By far, most technical black metal album done in 90s. Even though it's technical and super fast tempo music, it still has nice raspy atmosphere.

Xasthur - Nocturnal Poisoning
-Extremely dark music. I think no band has ever succeeded to add keyboards to black metal as naturally as Xasthur does. Any attempt to duplicate this one man project fails miserably.

All of these albums have very unique and original sound. Yet they are all very enjoyable to listen. Especially when you get inside them. Check them through and black metal will hit your veins for sure.

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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:37 am 
 

taufan99 wrote:
Looking for modern bands with good avant-garde and/or experimental sound(s) like Deathspell Omega and Kekal.

I'm going to have to apologise for recommending garbage bands, but they are appropriate for your request.

Krallice is experimental, Weakling-inspired stuff with post-rock touches. It doesn't resemble the second wave style much. Noodly, atonal and utterly unmemorable passages, most of the songs incredibly long-winded. Often tonally nonsensical.

Twilight is experimental, but incredibly soft and mellow. Imagine a softened Nachtmystium with more glued-on quasi-experimental crap.

Nightbringer is the epitome of modern experimental garbage "black metal". They have gone further in attempting to create a dark aura for the music, but it's not very convincing, of course.

S.V.E.S.T. might count as somewhat experimental, and they are actually quite good. This might be in part because this band doesn't neglect to write actually inspired black metal riffing. Highly chaotic and aggressive, but with a shroud of mystery to it. Approaches great.

Glorior Belli is also somewhat experimental. A much better take on the things that Nachtmystium is on paper. It's not highly memorable, but I can't recall being irritated by their music either. Less insane than Oranssi Pazuzu.

Some terrible bands that fit the bill: Ithdabquth Qliphoth, Cloak of Altering
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crises79
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:16 am 
 

Your opinion on Deathspell Omega is about the same as Krallice and Twilight then?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:55 am 
 

I can't stand Fas, and most of Si Monumentum bores me. However, the song Sola Fide I is incredible. Paracletus also has some excellent songs, although some of them are about Fas level. The band is full of talent and incredible ideas, but some strange preoccupation with aesthetics is clearly holding it back.

As a short answer, not at all. But from my experience, some those bands have qualities that DSO listeners appeciate in music. My intention was absolutely not to be condescending or arrogant. I apologise if I came across as that.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:29 pm 
 

Are all Darkspace albums reissued on Avantgarde pressed on black discs or are there different pressings with clear CDs? What are the differences between them?
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RainbowPrius19
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:07 pm 
 

First of all I found a really good split, Aeon Odyssey by Midnight Odyssey and Aeon Winds, also the album artwork is very cool.

I am also wondering if anyone has any black metal with folk influences from the South (USA). No shoegaze please...I beg of you.
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Necromaniac99
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:26 pm 
 

Looking for more bands like Gestapo666 . More specifically in this song ( with "depressive ?" guitars):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eihToQHKRjg
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:51 am 
 

Gestapo 666 just sounds like a not as good version of Mutiilation to me, but anyway the newest Vardan album (at least at the time of me writing this post since he seems to be coming out with a new full length everyday) is really good! It reminds me more of the classic original Wigrid album though, and since Wigrid has been inactive for almost 10 years this is the next best thing I've found. "Vardan - ...Dreaming …Living My Funeral" check it out, it's better than "Lifeless Shadow" which came out just before it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:21 pm 
 

crises79 wrote:
Your opinion on Deathspell Omega is about the same as Krallice and Twilight then?

Krallice's first album (S/T?) is actually really good and I'd deem it a necessity if you like Deathspell Omega. It's technical, atmospheric, and has long but well-written songs. I'm not going to say it's what all black metal should sound like, but I will say that it's worth checking out because it's a top-quality release and has an enjoyably unique atmosphere. It's easy on the ears but there's a lot more going on the album than, for example...any Agalloch album.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:47 pm 
 

I´ll always reccomend this
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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:22 am 
 

Necromaniac99 wrote:
I´ll always reccomend this

I browse this thread at school and work where I'm not able to listen to youtube material. It would be nice for future reference aswell if you shared a few words about what you're recommending, especially where it seems that it's not directed at any particular request, but is a general recommendation or heads-up. That'd make the thread more interesting to read, and your posts would be more likely to incite discussion and counter-recommendations aswell. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:05 pm 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Necromaniac99 wrote:
I´ll always reccomend this

I browse this thread at school and work where I'm not able to listen to youtube material. It would be nice for future reference aswell if you shared a few words about what you're recommending, especially where it seems that it's not directed at any particular request, but is a general recommendation or heads-up. That'd make the thread more interesting to read, and your posts would be more likely to incite discussion and counter-recommendations aswell. :)


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:38 am 
 

So I know we talked about Massemord (Poland) and Furia a page or 2 back and since this thread has been a little stagnant I'm gonna throw this out there. I got a copy of the new Massemord a few days ago and it's fucking amazing. It's very deathish black metal or tech black metal if you will, the drummer is a machine, but a human and they really put a lot of thought into every moment of every song. Even their slow parts are really funky break downs of bass riffs and grinding guitars that are original and awesome sounding. One of my favorite albums of 2013 for sure and a massive improvement over their last 1 song full length.
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Waltz_of_Ghouls
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:26 am 
 

Alright, for the past few days I've been on "Swedish black metal" kick, stuff like later Marduk, Ondskapt, Funeral Mist, Mortuus, Watain and Ofermod. I'm not sure how I would describe this sound, maybe aggressive, bass-y somewhat well produced black metal. So I'd like to discover other bands that would fit the bill.

Using the 'similar artists' tab on MA, there's a couple of well known bands I'm either already familiar with or simply doesn't really fit my criteria. Stuff like Deathspell Omega and Glorior Belli (like them both) or stuff like Dark Funeral, Tsjuder (not what I'm looking for).

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:05 pm 
 

Waltz_of_Ghouls wrote:
Alright, for the past few days I've been on "Swedish black metal" kick, stuff like later Marduk, Ondskapt, Funeral Mist, Mortuus, Watain and Ofermod. I'm not sure how I would describe this sound, maybe aggressive, bass-y somewhat well produced black metal. So I'd like to discover other bands that would fit the bill.


Nidsang and Triumphator are the first two to come to mind. Actually if you like Marduk and Funeral Mist there's an excellent chance you've already heard Triumphator.

edit: Not Swedish but for some reason I feel Horned Almighty's Necro Spirituals could apply here and also to SadisticGratification's quest for well produced black metal with hooks and deeper vox.

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RainbowPrius19
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:08 am 
 

I found two really good pieces of post/atmospheric black metal recently
that is Lost by Cerna

and this is Wind by Ellende.
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Waltz_of_Ghouls
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:00 pm 
 

DeathfareDevil wrote:
Waltz_of_Ghouls wrote:
Alright, for the past few days I've been on "Swedish black metal" kick, stuff like later Marduk, Ondskapt, Funeral Mist, Mortuus, Watain and Ofermod. I'm not sure how I would describe this sound, maybe aggressive, bass-y somewhat well produced black metal. So I'd like to discover other bands that would fit the bill.


Nidsang and Triumphator are the first two to come to mind. Actually if you like Marduk and Funeral Mist there's an excellent chance you've already heard Triumphator.

edit: Not Swedish but for some reason I feel Horned Almighty's Necro Spirituals could apply here and also to SadisticGratification's quest for well produced black metal with hooks and deeper vox.


Nidsang was ok, but didn't grab me much. I'll check the rest of the album because there's potential here.
Triumphator was a bit closer to what I'm looking for, even if it was a bit too close to Marduk's Panzer Division Marduk era for me. Not bad still.
Horned Almighty was a name I've seen before and this is actually the first time I've heard something by them and I liked it. A bit more "groovy" than I was expecting but promising. I'll look further into that band.

Thanx mate!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:09 pm 
 

A slightly vague request; some sad black metal. But not sad as in depressive, but more like downtoned like Enslaved's "The Crossing" or Ulver's "I Troldskog Faren Vild". That slightly melancholic tone to it, you know. thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:50 pm 
 

Celtic Frosted Flakes wrote:
A slightly vague request; some sad black metal. But not sad as in depressive, but more like downtoned like Enslaved's "The Crossing" or Ulver's "I Troldskog Faren Vild". That slightly melancholic tone to it, you know. thanks in advance.

How do you like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTqyTmkbVSU
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:06 pm 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Celtic Frosted Flakes wrote:
A slightly vague request; some sad black metal. But not sad as in depressive, but more like downtoned like Enslaved's "The Crossing" or Ulver's "I Troldskog Faren Vild". That slightly melancholic tone to it, you know. thanks in advance.

How do you like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTqyTmkbVSU


PERFECT! Exactly what i was looking for!! Thank you!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:28 pm 
 

Great reaction! :lol: Glad you liked it.

You might want to check out Wolfsmond's second and third album, Todtgelichter's first two, and maybe Barshasketh's second album.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:23 pm 
 

Can anyone recommend something similar to Verge's "Because It's Wrong"? I'm familiar with the rest of the bands in their mini-scene, and I'm not looking for church-organ dark ambient/noise, symphonic black metal, or crappy DSBM - I want rough black metal with a similar vibe/aesthetics to their side of that split.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:03 am 
 

Celtic Frosted Flakes wrote:
A slightly vague request; some sad black metal. But not sad as in depressive, but more like downtoned like Enslaved's "The Crossing" or Ulver's "I Troldskog Faren Vild". That slightly melancholic tone to it, you know. thanks in advance.

If you're not already familiar, check out the early Forteresse material, especially the "Traditionalisme" EP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAi3kBiKDuM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz8rWD-gCcQ
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:20 am 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
Can anyone recommend something similar to Verge's "Because It's Wrong"? I'm familiar with the rest of the bands in their mini-scene, and I'm not looking for church-organ dark ambient/noise, symphonic black metal, or crappy DSBM - I want rough black metal with a similar vibe/aesthetics to their side of that split.
I need to go back and listen to that Verge side again to make a more accurate recommendation however I think the Chronaexus side of the Dodsferd split may be exactly what you're looking for. Many things about them also remind me of the well deserved "popularity" growing band Barshasketh. Furia (Poland) is another possibility due to their many slow acoustic type breakdowns. The new 3 way split with Psychonaught? 4, Happy Days and Dodsferd is an honorable mention, probably not exactly what you're looking for but all 3 bands have some great material that isn't really dsbm but more very melancholy black metal with excellent leads.
Edit: don't post while driving, it's kind of like texting and driving, mistakes happen.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:20 am 
 

Hi there, I'm looking for something *sort of* specific.

I'm looking for something that's very distorted and "raw" in a way, and mostly I'd like the reference point to be Xothist:



So, buzzy, guitars, some-what depressing melodies, and I'd really love the dark-ambient factor. LLN dark-ambient isn't really like this to me, as I'd like drum beats and other atmospheres as well.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:05 am 
 

I think you'll enjoy these two bands:

http://svartsekt.bandcamp.com/

And also a band I have a demo .mp3 folder from called Gravsatt, but I can't seem to find them anywhere on the internet anymore.

Also thank you balbulus - they were pretty good.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:38 pm 
 

Celtic Frosted Flakes wrote:
I think you'll enjoy these two bands:

http://svartsekt.bandcamp.com/


I'm enjoying this Svartsekt a lot. Monitoring them to see if they release anything more in the future. Vocals actually sound female, weirdly. I like the production and melodies a lot, though.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:28 pm 
 

Celtic Frosted Flakes wrote:
I think you'll enjoy these two bands:

http://svartsekt.bandcamp.com/

And also a band I have a demo .mp3 folder from called Gravsatt, but I can't seem to find them anywhere on the internet anymore.

Also thank you balbulus - they were pretty good.

Could you send me a link for that folder? Where did you hear about them (Gravsatt)?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:38 pm 
 

Z0MBIE wrote:
I'm looking for really aggressive black metal with lots of blastbeats, any recs?


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RainbowPrius19 wrote:
Celtic Frosted Flakes wrote:
I think you'll enjoy these two bands:

http://svartsekt.bandcamp.com/

And also a band I have a demo .mp3 folder from called Gravsatt, but I can't seem to find them anywhere on the internet anymore.

Also thank you balbulus - they were pretty good.

Could you send me a link for that folder? Where did you hear about them (Gravsatt)?


I could send you a .rar of it. If i remember correctly I downloaded it from a bandcamp page.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:18 pm 
 

I'm looking for bleak, scary black metal from the '80s that will make me literally shit myself out of terror.

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I think the closest you're gonna get is Hellhammer.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:54 pm 
 

Celtic Frosted Flakes wrote:
I think the closest you're gonna get is Hellhammer.



Great nick name :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:56 pm 
 

Alright, since I'm huge on Ukrainian black metal, can you recommend me some atmospheric black metal in the vein of Drudkh and YGG and Blood of Kingu and stuff like that? You know, hypnotic mid-tempo riffs, long-ass songs, intense vocals, that sort of thing. You get the idea.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:40 pm 
 

Walknut is curiously missing from that list.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:58 pm 
 

Walknut, eh? I'm quite familiar with Graveforests. Pretty good stuff.

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In that case, I get sort of similar vibes from a few Quebecois bands, specifically Monarque, Csejthe and Grimoire.
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