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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:19 pm 
 

I don't know that many Canadian bands, actually.

John_Sunlight, I was listening to Magnum Opus by Lunar Reich. Are there releases by the band that are more reminiscent of the second wave stuff? This is aggressive and and hateful like some of the stuff, but much more avant-garde and weird. The atmosphere is very unlike the mysterious and dark one that saturated almost all of the Norwegian second wave.
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PillarofModern
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:13 pm 
 

Sick6Six wrote:
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Lol you should post their best songs too lilt the ones you would prefer for a noob to hear for first impressions

Alright if you haven't already then check these out:

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Thanks man this is PERFECT. got a new favorite "The Home Among the Stars" by Folkvang so beautiful

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Sick6Six
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:23 pm 
 

PillarofModern wrote:
Thanks man this is PERFECT. got a new favorite "The Home Among the Stars" by Folkvang so beautiful

Awesome! great to hear you like it. That album "Atmospheric Black" is just incredible. That's actually one of the albums on my list to review soon. Hails!
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PillarofModern
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:51 pm 
 

Sick6Six wrote:
Awesome! great to hear you like it. That album "Atmospheric Black" is just incredible. That's actually one of the albums on my list to review soon. Hails!

Hell yeah man you know any more artists just like Folkvang or Xasthur?

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Sick6Six
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:17 pm 
 

PillarofModern wrote:
Hell yeah man you know any more artists just like Folkvang or Xasthur?

Similar to Xasthur... maybe Leviathan (USA) Paysage D'hiver, Wigrid, Drowning the Light.
Similar to Folkvang... Hmm that's tough, but if you like Atmospheric Black you would probably like the band Drudkh, maybe "Sargeist - Let the Devil In" Maybe "Sad" from Greece although their vocals are a lot more harsh. Can't think of much else at the moment.
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John_Sunlight
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:32 pm 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
I don't know that many Canadian bands, actually.

John_Sunlight, I was listening to Magnum Opus by Lunar Reich. Are there releases by the band that are more reminiscent of the second wave stuff? This is aggressive and and hateful like some of the stuff, but much more avant-garde and weird. The atmosphere is very unlike the mysterious and dark one that saturated almost all of the Norwegian second wave.

No, the demos are more wonk and the second album is much more modern. I thot Magnum Opus was very ITNE-ish...

Sick6Six, you got good taste. Respect.

You should join the elite black metal club with me and Ilwhyan. :)
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Iggnsthe
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:47 pm 
 

PillarofModern wrote:
Sick6Six wrote:
Awesome! great to hear you like it. That album "Atmospheric Black" is just incredible. That's actually one of the albums on my list to review soon. Hails!

Hell yeah man you know any more artists just like Folkvang or Xasthur?


Not familiar with Folkvang, but depending on what you like about Xasthur, I'd recommend the split between Xerbittert and Taarma: http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Xe ... rma/295658

Possibly the other works by these bands, too, but I haven't checked yet.

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The only track that's on YouTube from the split (as far as I can tell) is the intro, so it doesn't exactly give you an excellent idea of what the band actually sounds like, but who knows.

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Sick6Six
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:22 pm 
 

John_Sunlight wrote:
Sick6Six, you got good taste. Respect.

You should join the elite black metal club with me and Ilwhyan. :)

Haha, thanks! I thought I was already in the elite black metal club :hail:

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FaultyClockwork
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:29 pm 
 

Can anyone give me a primer on 90s German BM? I'm in the mood for raw old school style black metal and don't know much about the German scene.

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PillarofModern
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:41 pm 
 

thank all of you for recommending fucking delicious black metal, keep at it haha :D btw Drudkh is awesome

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Malthus
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:30 pm 
 

FaultyClockwork wrote:
Can anyone give me a primer on 90s German BM? I'm in the mood for raw old school style black metal and don't know much about the German scene.


You need some Ungod! A couple of tracks from their 1993 debut-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vIHdy67Uxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCW7OxQntC0

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:53 pm 
 

PillarofModern wrote:
thank all of you for recommending fucking delicious black metal, keep at it haha :D btw Drudkh is awesome


If you like Drudkh, check out Irrwisch, they do that beautiful single note repetition with the backdrop of immense atmosphere thing on this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgz99XTgdu4

Walknut is also good, I think fitting in more with the grand feeling in that kind of style by maintaining a strong wall of sound with melodies and tension stretched out to make a trance feeling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfhZe10FYoI
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FaultyClockwork
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:24 pm 
 

Malthus wrote:
FaultyClockwork wrote:
Can anyone give me a primer on 90s German BM? I'm in the mood for raw old school style black metal and don't know much about the German scene.


You need some Ungod! A couple of tracks from their 1993 debut-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vIHdy67Uxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCW7OxQntC0


Thanks!

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STORMM
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:17 am 
 

PillarofModern wrote:
thank all of you for recommending fucking delicious black metal, keep at it haha :D btw Drudkh is awesome


If you enjoy Drudkh you prob will enjoy this little beauty -

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Wa ... eln/302147

Also I reccommend you check out the latest Imperium Dekadenz album, great release.

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STORMM
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:22 am 
 

FaultyClockwork wrote:
Can anyone give me a primer on 90s German BM? I'm in the mood for raw old school style black metal and don't know much about the German scene.


While not from the 90's Negator is a band you def should check out, they are heavily influenced by this era and are quite excellent and what they do.

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ne ... lack/37450

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Sick6Six
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:57 am 
 

FaultyClockwork wrote:
Can anyone give me a primer on 90s German BM? I'm in the mood for raw old school style black metal and don't know much about the German scene.


Endstille's early albums have always been some of my favorite, especially "Dominanz" I also enjoy Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult, Zorn, Nargaroth, Permafrost. Most of these bands started in late 90's or early 00's, but I think they are good examples.

Also the brand new Sarkrista, while it's from 2013 it fits the raw old school style that you are looking for.
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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:21 am 
 

Sarkrista is a lot like Satanic Warmaster or Sargeist, so it sounds more like Finnish black metal, but it's a good rec.

Also check out early Todtgelichter (depressive), Der Weg einer Freiheit (fast, melodic), Katharsis (raw), Lunar Aurora (atmospheric, experimental even) and The Ruins of Beverast (as the aforementioned, but in a different style - especially later on, it has death/doom influences).

If you like Endstille, check out Malus aswell. Malus is more atmospheric and has beautiful synth interludes and melodies. If you like Todtgelichter's first album, check out Wolfsmond. If you like Lunar Aurora and The Ruins of Beverast, check out Nagelfar - it has the musician behind TRoB on drums.
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Sick6Six
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:28 am 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Sarkrista is a lot like Satanic Warmaster or Sargeist, so it sounds more like Finnish black metal, but it's a good rec.

Yeah, a lot of Finnish influence here, but still has that German spark.
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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:22 pm 
 

I suppose. It sounds much better than Satanic Warmaster despite being very similar, so that's something.
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skwid79
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:00 pm 
 

Could someone help me find some Female fronted black metal? I know gallhammer and thats it I'd like to find more stuff like that or really any black metal with female vocalists.

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Inspector_Satan
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:05 pm 
 

Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult and Astarte come to mind

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Sick6Six
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:08 pm 
 

skwid79 wrote:
Could someone help me find some Female fronted black metal? I know gallhammer and thats it I'd like to find more stuff like that or really any black metal with female vocalists.

Not that you can really tell that they are female vocals, but... Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult and Lucifugum. Not only are they the vocalists, but the main force of the band. I prefer DNS, Lucifugum is pretty weird, but I like them if I'm in the right mood.

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PillarofModern
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:13 pm 
 

STORMM wrote:
PillarofModern wrote:
thank all of you for recommending fucking delicious black metal, keep at it haha :D btw Drudkh is awesome


If you enjoy Drudkh you prob will enjoy this little beauty -

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Wa ... eln/302147

Also I reccommend you check out the latest Imperium Dekadenz album, great release.


Good shit, very beautiful too. \m/

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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:13 pm 
 

Demonic Christ is a black/death band fronted by a woman. Anguished is a one-woman band, but I'm not sure if I can recommend that.
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STORMM
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:20 pm 
 

skwid79 wrote:
Could someone help me find some Female fronted black metal? I know gallhammer and thats it I'd like to find more stuff like that or really any black metal with female vocalists.


Darkestrah are a fine band to check out. Their vocalist also does throat singing on some tracks.

http://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Kriegtalith/8236

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Iggnsthe
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:52 pm 
 

skwid79 wrote:
Could someone help me find some Female fronted black metal? I know gallhammer and thats it I'd like to find more stuff like that or really any black metal with female vocalists.


Sortilegia. The vocals aren't exactly prominent, or the focus of the songs, but they're well-executed all the same.

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PillarofModern
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:57 pm 
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2ZAm89ZpTg Surprising solo, great atmosphere

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:49 am 
 

skwid79 wrote:
Could someone help me find some Female fronted black metal? I know gallhammer and thats it I'd like to find more stuff like that or really any black metal with female vocalists.


Oooh yes, the mighty Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult. Ripping, frosty black metal with a female vocalist/guitarist. They also have a new album out that I have to get my hands on...

EDIT: dammit, they already got mentioned :grumble:
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metaden
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:31 am 
 

I need Krallice type black metal. Extremely instrumentally layered, twin guitar solos, lengthy composition and lo-fi production. I also tried Weakling, drone-y but not instrumental enough.

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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:47 am 
 

CrushedRevelation wrote:

EDIT: dammit, they already got mentioned :grumble:

Three times on this page. :D
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Prophex34
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:26 pm 
 

I was wondering if anyone here knows of any black metal in the style of Woods of Infinity, especially their last album 'Förlåt'?

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xGeneralSureMan
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:51 pm 
 

Looking for well-produced black metal that has dark ambient passages. I don't want something that combines the two too frequently, but I want black metal that has kind of an "eye of the storm" dark ambient passages.

Also looking for cold, calculated, and hateful black/industrial metal.

Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:54 pm 
 

Seems like Darkspace would be totally up your alley, not only for the black metal / dark ambient but it's also got quite a heavy industrial vibe.

[Edit: just read you meant well-produced. While Darkspace doesn't sound crisp and clear it's obvious they put a lot of time in the overal sound mix of their music.]

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STORMM
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:00 pm 
 

xGeneralSureMan wrote:
Looking for well-produced black metal that has dark ambient passages. I don't want something that combines the two too frequently, but I want black metal that has kind of an "eye of the storm" dark ambient passages.

Also looking for cold, calculated, and hateful black/industrial metal.

Thanks in advance.


Give Evilfeast a whirl, start with his 'Lost Horizons...' album, grim black metal with some fantastic ambient passages, production is not bad at all.

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slayer85
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:59 pm 
 

FaultyClockwork wrote:
Can anyone give me a primer on 90s German BM? I'm in the mood for raw old school style black metal and don't know much about the German scene.


I have been getting into the same taste for BM lately! You must check out Paria After listening to an album of theirs on cassette had me digging for more BM!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:13 pm 
 

xGeneralSureMan wrote:
Looking for well-produced black metal that has dark ambient passages. I don't want something that combines the two too frequently, but I want black metal that has kind of an "eye of the storm" dark ambient passages.

Also looking for cold, calculated, and hateful black/industrial metal.

Thanks in advance.



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:27 am 
 

So I'm going to post a few bm band's I've discovered through this thread and other places, a lot of it goes quite a few pages back or on other threads. Some well known bands, some not so much, all worth checking out.

De Magia Veterum - Harsh, dissonant black metal that reminds me of a less melodic DSO:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRf13BIJQIs

Negative Pane - Complex lead driven black metal with a very cavernous production:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KTUIsZW60A

Graupel - Dense material with a surprising amount of groove:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLNN24lVkfE

barshasketh - A real gem from the 'nobodies' thread, grand, melodic bm:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI41APzdPlE

Forgjord - Super raw and slightly melancholic band - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwgtUbUjKoo

Horna - Rawish very well known finnish group who's exact style changes every album:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CrQIK018FY

Omega Centauri - Spacey prog bm with touches of dissonance and ambient - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA32OTWHny8

Darkspace - Universally regarded ambient black metal with a suffocating outer space atmosphere:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBHnJNEbNZw

Martolea - Negura bunget esque folk/black - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0TtkVCjrO0

Zwartplaag - Raw orthodox bm driven by tremolo leads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkJw58OCHf4

Cirith Gorgor - Epic, fast riff driven bm - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w62NyOPJ1-4

Kvist - A folkish norweigan 2nd wave classic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s80QBT5xfEQ

Throndt - Foresty, romantic black metal from germany - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=228Alx0hrL8

Horn - vast, alpine like bm with lots of acoustics and touches of folk:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7mYKz_9xnc

Schattenvald - Slightly experimental band that goes between sweeping melodies and blasting orthodox material, quite raw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nfhA4pwn6g

Sigh - Well known, hugely experimental band with psychedelic influences with a whole mish mash of genres added in, each album is almost a new sound:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dqKbzRqc5g

Odal - More dense, rawish german bm:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao9fkTIVwOc

There's a few more, but that's enough for one post.

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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:35 am 
 

Sick6six, I read your Flagellant review, and since you clearly enjoyed the new album more than me, would you say it grew on you, since I found it dull and a pale ahadow of the debut. I might've expected the wrong things from it.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:18 am 
 

I definitely liked it more on my 2nd or 3rd listen, but I think it's a different style than most of the black metal bands we like. I'd give it another listen or two and see what you think.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:24 am 
 

Evangelion2014 wrote:
So I'm going to post a few bm band's I've discovered through this thread and other places, a lot of it goes quite a few pages back or on other threads. Some well known bands, some not so much, all worth checking out.
Graupel - Dense material with a surprising amount of groove:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLNN24lVkfE

barshasketh - A real gem from the 'nobodies' thread, grand, melodic bm:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI41APzdPlE

Forgjord - Super raw and slightly melancholic band - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwgtUbUjKoo

Zwartplaag - Raw orthodox bm driven by tremolo leads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkJw58OCHf4

Cirith Gorgor - Epic, fast riff driven bm - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w62NyOPJ1-4

Odal - More dense, rawish german bm:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao9fkTIVwOc

Some awesome bands that deserve more attention for sure! I just noticed Zwartplaag says they are "on hold" that sucks. Graupel - Am Pranger is fucking badass! I'm not sure how active they still are though. Barshasketh is amazing and I wrote my first ever review about them. I have not really listened to a number of those other bands that I deleted from the quote, I will have to get around to checking them out. I took Horna out because they are pretty well known these days.

Edit: I would like to point out this band from the USA called Chronaexus. I just heard them for the first time on the new split with Dodsferd and I am fucking impressed. Fast, raw, hateful, and some awesome guitar solos even. Adding this split to my albums to review list.
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