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wigglygore
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:07 am 
 

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I havent really put much effort into listening to them at all. I suppose for powerviolence ive been pretty content with what i have to listen to, DropDead are my ultimate fix for Powerviolence.

And i take it, judging by your location and quote, you are a fan of Extortion?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:12 am 
 

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I tried that Ghoul album but its a bit too modern in the production and not sloppy, muddy and crappy enough.

I knew it was a stretch. There is a slew of Australian grind that meets your Sloppy/Muddy/Crappy requirements :D

Can you name some bands? I'd ask Bezerko on MSN, but he'd reply with a truckload of "satanic spam"
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206
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:57 pm 
 

MegaHassan wrote:
Can you name some bands? I'd ask Bezerko on MSN, but he'd reply with a truckload of "satanic spam"


Captain Cleanoff - an oldschool sound with overt punk influences.
The Kill - insane blasting madness that creates muddy production.
Die Pigeon Die - the production is solid, so this may not vibe with you but they have a great mix of uber fast/ultra slow.

Moving away from Australia for a moment, another band that might interest you is My Mind Is Mind. They fit your requirements but do not offer a big discog.

If you like d-beat, the Swedish band Afgrund is pretty solid but again, the production might be a little clean.

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DeadHead487
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:37 am 
 

I can't say there is one deathcore band I like. All the bands I've heard sound the same, I think its overrated. I like some metalcore though like Shadows Fall (pre-Threads of Life), Lamb of God (pre-Sacrament), Unearth, All That Remains (Fall of Ideals), Killswitch Engage (The End of Heartache, some stuff off AOJB)
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MikeyC
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:42 am 
 

DeadHead487 wrote:
Lamb of God (pre-Sacrament)

I'll agree that Sacrament wasn't very good, especially in comparison to Ashes Of The Wake, but it's still enjoyable enough. I hope Wrath can be an improvement. I'll say that I'm more looking forward to the next Chimaira before Lamb Of God, as I like the former better.

I enjoy a number of deathcore bands. I know there are heaps that are hated, but I can find enjoyment in the genre. I'd give you some recommendations, but I doubt you'd enjoy one of them. :P
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:53 am 
 

Sacrament owns you. One of the most atmospheric melodeath album I've ever heard. Also, Threads of Life is Shadows Falls' best album.
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DloppyFick
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:46 am 
 

Damn, there seems to be a lot of hate for any genre with "core" in it :???:

I've recently become fascinated with noisy grindcore bands such as Rotten Sound and Anaal Nathrakh, and in addition to finding more bands like this I'm also wondering what people consider to be the "best" album of both bands. I already know that Codex Necro would most likely be my favorite for AN simply because their newer stuff just doesn't do it for me, but for Rotten Sound I have no clue. I like the song "Burden" off-of the Exit album, but is this what I should be listening to if I want the full/best Rotten Sound experience ?

But yeah, I like a lot of different styles when it comes to music, but for this particular interest I dig anything that sounds like Necroanal mixed with S.O.D. and The Black Dahlia Murder.

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Bezerko
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:09 pm 
 

Anaal Nathrakh really aren't all that grindy...

But yes, The Codex Necro is their best, along with the demos.

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MikeyC
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:36 pm 
 

DloppyFick wrote:
I've recently become fascinated with noisy grindcore bands such as Rotten Sound and Anaal Nathrakh, and in addition to finding more bands like this I'm also wondering what people consider to be the "best" album of both bands. I already know that Codex Necro would most likely be my favorite for AN simply because their newer stuff just doesn't do it for me, but for Rotten Sound I have no clue. I like the song "Burden" off-of the Exit album, but is this what I should be listening to if I want the full/best Rotten Sound experience ?

You should begin with Murderworks. I think it's Rotten Sound's best album, although you can't go wrong with Exit, to be honest.
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DloppyFick
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:53 pm 
 

MikeyC wrote:
DloppyFick wrote:
I've recently become fascinated with noisy grindcore bands such as Rotten Sound and Anaal Nathrakh, and in addition to finding more bands like this I'm also wondering what people consider to be the "best" album of both bands. I already know that Codex Necro would most likely be my favorite for AN simply because their newer stuff just doesn't do it for me, but for Rotten Sound I have no clue. I like the song "Burden" off-of the Exit album, but is this what I should be listening to if I want the full/best Rotten Sound experience ?

You should begin with Murderworks. I think it's Rotten Sound's best album, although you can't go wrong with Exit, to be honest.


Thanks, meing :)

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kmfcm
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:00 pm 
 

If you like Exit for more than the drumming, definitely check out the newest album Cycles.
That as one of the best grindcore albums this year (next to the new Cripple Bastards)

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Balaam_Abaddon
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:22 pm 
 

I am looking for some good Deathcore and Grindcore bands myself, and I really do not want to read through this whole thread, could anyone possibly send me a message with some worthy bands?

Thanks.

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KG666
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:53 pm 
 

i dont get why people are getting all worked up about how all deathcore bands suck i mean just look at all shall perish, carnifex, the black dahlia murder, despised icon, whitechapel, and winds of plague...all of those bands are classified as "deathcore" but they are brutal as shit. they are way more on the death metal side than the deathcore side, but they are just part of the deathcore scene. so look up those bands and they are by far the best bands in the deathcore scene. its not shitty deathcore like bring me the horizon

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MaliciousAwesome
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:36 am 
 

A lot of people don't even consider TBDM deathcore at all.. so.
And Winds of Plague is just bad.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:43 am 
 

Balaam_Abaddon wrote:
I am looking for some good Deathcore and Grindcore bands myself, and I really do not want to read through this whole thread, could anyone possibly send me a message with some worthy bands?

Thanks.


I hope you realize that grindcore and deathcore are poles apart.

For grindcore..

Napalm Death - Scum
Carcass - Reek of Putrefaction
Repulsion - Horrified
Insect Warfare - World Extermination and At War With Grindcore
Machetazo - All albums
Pig Destroyer - Prowler at the yard

I'm kind of new to Grindcore myself, but I've enjoyed all those albums.
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Axel_Sikth
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:50 am 
 

MegaHassan wrote:
Insect Warfare - World Extermination and At War With Grindcore


Insect Warfare is the shit I tell you! My favorite grindcore band of all time. Can anyone recommend any band that is nearly as awesome as they are? (Yup I get a major boner at the mention of Insect Warfare.) Seriously though, are there other good bands that also alternate sections of fast blasting with midpace thrash riffage? I've got Captain Cleanoff's Symphonies of Slackness but it it ain't quite enough. Or maybe I'm just better off listening to Insect Warfare's discography over and over again.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:47 am 
 

Anyone want to reccomend me some grindcore with heavy thrash influences? The kind of grind that mainly focuses on wild, necksnapping riffs? I need albums similiar to:

Brutal Truth - "Extreme Conditions Demand Extreme Responses"
Pig Destroyer - "Terrifyer" and "Phantom Limb"
Agenda of Swine - "Waves of Human Suffering"
Repulsion - "Horrified"
Nuclear Death - "Bride of Insect"
S.O.B. - "Don't Be Swindle" (This might be debatable, if it is grind or not)

And to some extent Kill The Client - "Cleptocracy" and Terrorizer - "World Downfall"

I've already tried some Insect Warfare and I thought they were alright. Not really what I was looking for. And I've also sampled some CC's Symphonies of Slackness and was kind of underwhelmed. I don't know why, but I seem to be really fond of Scott Hull-like riffs (Agoraphobic Nosebleed & Pig Destroyer).

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Bezerko
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:05 am 
 

The grind half of Blood Duster's Lyden Na has a lot of riffs that are similar to Agoraphobic Nosebleed stuff, but perhaps a bit more death metal influenced in general. It's good regardless, though it doesn't have a heavy thrash influence.

But then, nor does Agoraphobic Nosebleed.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:39 am 
 

Axel_Sikth wrote:
MegaHassan wrote:
Insect Warfare - World Extermination and At War With Grindcore


Insect Warfare is the shit I tell you! My favorite grindcore band of all time. Can anyone recommend any band that is nearly as awesome as they are? (Yup I get a major boner at the mention of Insect Warfare.) Seriously though, are there other good bands that also alternate sections of fast blasting with midpace thrash riffage? I've got Captain Cleanoff's Symphonies of Slackness but it it ain't quite enough. Or maybe I'm just better off listening to Insect Warfare's discography over and over again.


Insect Warfare are indeed awesome, but they'll always remain in second place compared to Napalm Death ;)

But Insect Warfare do give them a run for their money.
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RandyJames16
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:08 am 
 

I'd like to hear what material Scott Hull (Pig Destroyer, Agoraphobic Nosebleed), Dan Lilker (Brutal Truth, Nuclear Assault, Exit-13, etc.), Mick Kenney (Anaal Nathrakh, Mistress, etc.), and Richard Johnson (Enemy Soil, Drugs of Faith, Agoraphobic Nosebleed) could create if they were all trapped inside a recording studio for a week.

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HumanWaste5150
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:14 am 
 

Axel_Sikth wrote:
MegaHassan wrote:
Insect Warfare - World Extermination and At War With Grindcore


Insect Warfare is the shit I tell you! My favorite grindcore band of all time. Can anyone recommend any band that is nearly as awesome as they are? (Yup I get a major boner at the mention of Insect Warfare.) Seriously though, are there other good bands that also alternate sections of fast blasting with midpace thrash riffage? I've got Captain Cleanoff's Symphonies of Slackness but it it ain't quite enough. Or maybe I'm just better off listening to Insect Warfare's discography over and over again.
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Bolt Stein! Check out the extremely short addition to the Bolt Stein/Insect Warfare split. Its basically Bolt Thrower gone more grind.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:27 am 
 

gonna just bypass EVERYTHING on here thus far and say

Abaddon Incarnate - Nadir

want it raw, gritty and filthy-yet accessible?
dig that Nasum style production but wish the music was more visceral?
want to hear RAGING lower vocals ripe with contempt and bitterness AND shrieking banshee highs?
how about a good ass kickin' 8 second rock hook before a grindblast excursion into hell?
an atmosphere of hatred and scorn?
actual charm and personality flowing freely?

Abaddon Incarnate - Nadir

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Axel_Sikth
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:36 am 
 

the16th6toothson wrote:
gonna just bypass EVERYTHING on here thus far and say

Abaddon Incarnate - Nadir

want it raw, gritty and filthy-yet accessible?
dig that Nasum style production but wish the music was more visceral?
want to hear RAGING lower vocals ripe with contempt and bitterness AND shrieking banshee highs?
how about a good ass kickin' 8 second rock hook before a grindblast excursion into hell?
an atmosphere of hatred and scorn?
actual charm and personality flowing freely?

Abaddon Incarnate - Nadir


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206
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:53 pm 
 

Rippingheadache wrote:
Anyone want to reccomend me some grindcore with heavy thrash influences?

Cretin - Freakery
Repulsion worship, down to the guitar solos, with a "current" feel. Definitely fits the "thrash" bill - however the lyrics might be a turn off to some, since they are more on a human level compared to Repulsions abstract death/plague/destruction.

Seems like an obvious one, though. Sorry.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:58 pm 
 

Balaam_Abaddon wrote:
I am looking for some good Deathcore and Grindcore bands myself, and I really do not want to read through this whole thread, could anyone possibly send me a message with some worthy bands? Thanks.

A little bit of grind but I cant help with deathcore because I have not heard a single band listed in this thread.

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JustinBaker8484
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:26 pm 
 

Anybody looking for some grindcore/deathmetal check out this band called disfiguring the godess
http://www.myspace.com/disfiguring
thier vocalist is amazing and hes just a teenager.

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DloppyFick
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:38 pm 
 

JustinBaker8484 wrote:
Anybody looking for some grindcore/deathmetal check out this band called disfiguring the godess
http://www.myspace.com/disfiguring
thier vocalist is amazing and hes just a teenager.


Holy shit! These guys need to release a demo :D

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wigglygore
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:52 pm 
 

This band may be able to be described as 'deathcore' to a degree. The basic underlying sound is built on a guttural US slam style, but their riffs incorperate a hell of a lot of groove, and borrow a lot from the hardcore/grind/death genres.

Cumbeast - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... D=20349157

Their album 'Goumet Of Ill Shit' is an absolute romp to listen to. Constantly changing thru the above mentioned genres with an abundance of death/grind/hardcore/slam switched up guitar riffs, and with vocal stylings that change as much as the style of riffing ie. death/guttural/scream/yell/rap. Drumming is great, a constant barrage of different patterns/timings/fills that doesn't ever come of sounding like generic monotonous tech drumming, that i think a lot of these bands suffer from. 'Dr Dongledore' is a good track from this release, and lays down a pretty good idea of whats to be expected for the other tracks.

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Luisangel91
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:51 am 
 

i`ve just found a new band called "here comes the kraken", they are from mexico and i listened one of their demos and they play awesome you all should check them out

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Luisangel91
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:52 am 
 

i forgot to say that their genre is deathcore

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RevBau
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:04 pm 
 

Anyone know of any death/grind similar to Terrorizer? I think they have a perfect balance of each genre.

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Funeral_Shadow
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:55 pm 
 

RevBau wrote:
Anyone know of any death/grind similar to Terrorizer? I think they have a perfect balance of each genre.


Please see Napalm Death's "Mentally Murdered" EP as well as their second full length "From Enslavement to Obliteration." However, their second album is still very hardcore influenced but the vocals are down the death-growl aisle.

On a different note, check out Phobia's "Cruel" full length for a more modern take on the whole death/grind blend with a huge touch of crust.


IMO Terrorizer's album is highly overrated. Maybe the first few tracks are great, but everything just seems to sound the same afterwards. At least it's way better than their follow up album 20 years after their classic was released.
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Axel_Sikth wrote:
MegaHassan wrote:
Insect Warfare - World Extermination and At War With Grindcore


Insect Warfare is the shit I tell you! My favorite grindcore band of all time. Can anyone recommend any band that is nearly as awesome as they are? (Yup I get a major boner at the mention of Insect Warfare.) Seriously though, are there other good bands that also alternate sections of fast blasting with midpace thrash riffage? I've got Captain Cleanoff's Symphonies of Slackness but it it ain't quite enough. Or maybe I'm just better off listening to Insect Warfare's discography over and over again.

the world needs more people like you. world extermination gets better with every listen, and that riff in the middle of nuclear deterrence is unbelievable.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:15 pm 
 

theposega wrote:
Axel_Sikth wrote:
MegaHassan wrote:
Insect Warfare - World Extermination and At War With Grindcore


Insect Warfare is the shit I tell you! My favorite grindcore band of all time. Can anyone recommend any band that is nearly as awesome as they are? (Yup I get a major boner at the mention of Insect Warfare.) Seriously though, are there other good bands that also alternate sections of fast blasting with midpace thrash riffage? I've got Captain Cleanoff's Symphonies of Slackness but it it ain't quite enough. Or maybe I'm just better off listening to Insect Warfare's discography over and over again.

the world needs more people like you. world extermination gets better with every listen, and that riff in the middle of nuclear deterrence is unbelievable.

holy shit! that's my fucking favorite song on that whole cd. track 14, I could listen to it any fucking time ever. That riff is just too fucking good...
lol, damn!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:42 pm 
 

"Cancer of Oppression", "Human Slaughterhouse", and "After War Obliteration" are some of the songs that do it for me. :D.

By the way, does anyone else here have the This Comp Kills Fascists, Vol. 1 compilation? Neat stuff.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:44 pm 
 

I just wanted to point out that Terrorizer and Brutal Truth are kind of amazing.

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JustinBaker8484
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:52 pm 
 

DloppyFick wrote:
JustinBaker8484 wrote:
Anybody looking for some grindcore/deathmetal check out this band called disfiguring the godess
http://www.myspace.com/disfiguring
thier vocalist is amazing and hes just a teenager.


Holy shit! These guys need to release a demo :D

they already have an ep/demo on Itunes

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:01 am 
 

JustinBaker8484 wrote:
Anybody looking for some grindcore/deathmetal check out this band called disfiguring the godess
http://www.myspace.com/disfiguring
thier vocalist is amazing and hes just a teenager.


Yeah, he is known as BIG CHOCOLATE :lol: He got really popular on youtube which gave his band(s) a fair bit of publicity.
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I cannot stand those really guttural, frogish vocals that some grind and deathcore bands use. It's just ridiculous.
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MaliciousAwesome wrote:
I cannot stand those really guttural, frogish vocals that some grind and deathcore bands use. It's just ridiculous.

If you're talking about vocals a la Cock And Ball Torture, then I must agree with you. However, there are always exceptions...such as Malodorous.
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