I like Converge's vocals; they are vicious and extreme to the max, not holding back anything at all. And even when they do clean vocals, they sound completely masculine and metallic, like the guy from Communic.

Converge are just an ace band, and people listening to them expecting some watered down metalcore will be disappointed. Its appeal lies in the fact that it is sonically aggressive and completely fucking crazy.

Now Im not flaming or looking to start any fighting (and No Im not trolling) but am I the only person on this site that actually likes Job For a Cowboy?.. Doom i didnt care for so much but I think Genesis was a strong release.

Converge is a good band overall, the vocals are nothing special indeed but they are tolerable I think, anyway I think Botch & Coalesce are much better bands.

One of my favorite metalcore bands at the moment is Cannae. How they're not on the Metal Archives is very perplexing to me. They have a very thrashy sound with some blastbeats & breakdowns mixed in. Gold Becomes Sacrifice is a really good album.

I have two of their albums, the one you mentioned and Horror. I haven't listened to either of those for quite some time now. Cannae have lost their appeal big time, and Horror is a horror of an album, to put it bluntly. I'll still spin Gold Becomes Sacrifice every now and again, though.

I have Horror too, and I also have their debut album Troubleshooting Death. Horror isn't that bad, though I must admit that it can be quite repetitive. Michael Boutillette didn't have much variation with the drums on that record. Colin Conway was definitely the better drummer on Gold Becomes Sacrifice, but he left, and I haven't heard anything new from the band since, other than they were writing for the new album.

A lot of the things about Horror were bad...particularly the awful vocals, and the amount of them. As for the new album, I heard they were writing, too, and they've pretty much fallen off the face of the planet since. I'm not too keen on what they have lined up for us.

I understand what you mean. Adam DuLong sounded better as a vocalist on Gold Becomes Sacrifice anyway. But I just checked their MySpace, and it says they're busy writing & that they got a new drummer. Doesn't say who it is though.

They've been "busy writing" for quite some time now, haven't they? Well, when they get a new song up, I'll give it a listen, but I'm not fussed if I forget about it, though.

Lmao yes, for like over a year or so. They must be taking their sweet time with this one, and I usually don't have a problem with that, but at least demo a song or two or something!

I have no doubt that it won't be impressive, despite spending seemingly a long time on the writing process. You're right, though...a demo song, or a rough track, or something to show us that the ball is rolling.

I like Converge's vocals; they are vicious and extreme to the max, not holding back anything at all. And even when they do clean vocals, they sound completely masculine and metallic, like the guy from Communic.

Converge are just an ace band, and people listening to them expecting some watered down metalcore will be disappointed. Its appeal lies in the fact that it is sonically aggressive and completely fucking crazy.

I saw a lot of the posters in this thread praising Insect Warfare, so I'm listening to them right now. I gotta say, this is very fucking brutal!

There's no difference between Genesis and any of, say, Nile's material.

Insect Warfare are here under the side projects rule. I asked Witcher about it a long time back.

Yes there is. Job For A Cowboy aren't brutal death metal. They're just standard death metal. And they suck, where as Nile doesn't.

I think World Extermination has enough metal influence.

Might I recommend you guys Insect Warfare's four tracks on the This Comp Kills Fascists, Vol. 1 compilation? As far as I know they were the last Insect Warfare songs written and released. Not a bad way to go out, in my humble opinion.

Best Deathcore band hands down, Misericordiam, check out their Unanimity And The Cessation Of Hostility ep if you don't believe me, they are quite possibly the most brutal band on the planet (on this ep)

I'd argue that they stopped being deathcore with that release and started being brutal death metas.

Cancer Of Oppression slays!

Amen to that. It's a perfect grind song. I absolutely love it. By the way, what do you think of Rahi's vocals? I know some people who can't really get into the ultra-low pitch gurgles, but I find them awesome. The guy barely sounds human at times.

Updated 1/16/09
Ok, back in Japan now that my mother has made a solid recovery from her accident back in September. Before I elft the US I sent into the pressing plant both the YOUNG OFFENDERS/GIANT HAYSTACKS Split LP and the PARLIAMENTARISK SODOMI LP - both of which will be limited in their press runs. The economy has tanked, the distribution checks are smaller, and thus I'm going to limit my press runs from here on out.

In other news, I have friend out on the East Coast is also now selling my old personal record and t-shirt collection. This includes tons of Japanese HC, grind, crust, 80s hardcore, etc. This will be a steady thing as I just sent him the last remnants of my record collection, so be sure to check back regularly for new postings. CLICK HERE to check out the listings.

And don't forget, there is also LIGAMENT who has both personal collectibles and 625 titles up on eBay as well. CLICK HERE to do a search.

Awesome! After the GIANT HAYSTACKS/YOUNG OFFENDERS Split LP and the PARLIMENTARISK SODOMI LP come out, I will have the last LP from INSECT WARFARE (53 songs of pure noisecore) along with new titles from SFN, XBRAINIAX, HATRED SURGE, SOCIETY OF FRIENDS and a SE ASIA comp CD. Don't sleep!

Now Im not flaming or looking to start any fighting (and No Im not trolling) but am I the only person on this site that actually likes Job For a Cowboy?.. Doom i didnt care for so much but I think Genesis was a strong release.

Molotov Solution is a good deathcore band to check out.

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I honestly don't see too much of a difference. And imo, Nile sucks pretty bad.

Cretin are repulsion clones but excellent. For carcass try the county medical examiners or impaled or general surgery. To name a few a shitload of bands clone carcass moreso than repulsion.