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Markov
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:51 pm 
 

I wasn't sure where this fit in as I saw an "Electronic" thread but I'm not sure if dark ambient/jazz would really be suitable for that thread.

Anyway, in the last year I've had a huge infatuation with "darkjazz", which is basically dark ambient, electronic, and all types of jazz mixed into one, depending on the act. It is a very particular brand of music and I find it to be more engaging than most, as the ambiance and layering of the method is incredibly different from most everything. I figured I'd start a thread for it and link artists that I know in the hopes that perhaps someone may know some others that I may find enjoyable as well.

The Kilimanjaro Darkjazz Ensemble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AroTNb63mLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WSsshUwV24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLHl15Ko2YA

The Mount Fuji Doomjazz Corporation (same members as Kilimanjaro)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1SbYeD1ZyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNCgRZPLsOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtJowOrABfU

Bohren & Der Club of Gore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aue3NrdtzN0
http://youtu.be/auknkySqcBg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R-lUWuxeog

Dale Cooper Quartet And The Dictaphones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWjJkocD0v8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C39IgZictrU

Heroin & Your Veins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ5WqvSAY34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSxPWMq9XlA

Povarovo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQE2zBByZ4M

Swami Lateplate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9-MOKcBb9w

Sadly these are the only acts I've found thus far. They all have extensive discographies, however, all worth checking out. Note that this thread can contain acts that are similar, not just those who are specifically called "Dark jazz" which is a questionable, yet identifiable genre in it's own regard in any case.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:53 am 
 

If you're willing to go a bit more into the jazz route a few of these albums might suit your taste although not exactly in the same genre. Often a bit more jazzy.

Esbjörn Svensson Trio - Leucocyte
Eivind Aarset - Dream Logic
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue (pretty much set a standard for slightly slower jazz that's modal way back in 59)
The Necks - Chemist (more groove-based but quite bizarre and I do think you'll like it)
Nik Bartsch's Ronin - Ilyria (MUCH more jazz, and also inspired by American minimalism from the 60's)

Start off with those and from there on I'd be more than happy to recommend other albums that are slightly more on the jazz side of things. Happy listening!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:53 pm 
 

maladie wrote:
Esbjörn Svensson Trio

Esbjörn Svensson is one of my favourite artists ever! He's up there with Beethoven and Charles Rytkönen.
Know anything similar to EST?
(Sorry for thread hijack)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:12 pm 
 

I've never really found anything close to Leucocyte in style, but a lot of European jazz comes closer to the other stuff he did. I'd suggest that you check out Marcin Wasilewski Trio (used to be called Simple Acoustic Trio methinks). I'd suggest you mainly check out Norwegian and Swedish jazz though. Like in EST, the swing is slightly different than their European and American counterparts. Bands like Helge Lien Trio, Lars Danielsen, Magnus Östrom, Mathias Eick, Ketil Bjørnstad, etc all have a few things in common with EST but they don't have the exact same colour. If you check them out and want more that's similar to X album, feel free to PM me or just post here.

A lot of people say EST was the European Brad Mehldau, but I don't really hear it that much. I think EST blows Mehldau out of the water VERY easily. Also, if you haven't heard it, you could listen to some of the grandaddies of Scandinavian jazz: Jan Johansson (Jazz på Svenska), Jan Garbarek (I mostly suggest his 4 four albums) and Terje Bjørklund (he is mostly known as an educator and classical composer but a compilation of some of his older live concerts got released. Fantastic composer and teacher).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:12 pm 
 

Reaaaallllyyyy digging this Esbjörn Svensson Trio project. Currently listening to 301. Reminds me a lot of Kilimanjaro mixed with Bohren, with more intricate piano work.

Have yet to check out the others, but this is what I like. If there's more mixing of dark ambient and stuff like this, would love to hear it. Wouldn't mind some avant-garde jazz either.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:48 am 
 

The 301 album is just early demos of what would have been the next album if he was still alive.

As for mixing more ambient and jazz, check out the Norwegian band Food and definitely Eivind Aarset.

You'll have to define your idea of avant-garde jazz because the term avant-garde doesn't really mean much anymore except for more experimental, but in which way, Cecil Taylor, Sun Ra or more John Zorn-esque?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:56 pm 
 

Love this kind of music, discovered all of those bands some years ago, apart from the last one which I'll check out soon enough. I especially like Heroin and Your Veins and Bohren & der Club of Gore. Actually, I saw bohren live a few years ago, and of course it was amazing.

I usually list Kammerflimmer Kollektief with those bands you listed. They're pretty experimental/avant-gardish/jazzy, but some of their stuff is quite good:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:55 pm 
 

some cool stuff posted here. I gotta mention somewhere on jazz street

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Hymnofwolves
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:59 am 
 

You could give Mere a try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDK7JaPXtXo

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MaleficDevilry
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:39 pm 
 

As far as Scandinavian jazz...I love The Thing. Especially the album they did with Neneh Cherry. Not really "dark" though.

Old school...Albert Ayler might be up your alley. I love his "In Greenwich Village." Dark for the time period. "Witches & Devils" and "Spirits Rejoice" are great too. Alice and John Coltrane put out some weird stuff too.

I'll throw out Khlyst's "Chaos Is My Name." Possibly the darkest/heaviest piece of "jazz" I've ever heard. It borders on noise.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:36 pm 
 

Not sure if this fits in any way... not really similar to the above mentioned artists, but I feel like it would be a good recommendation anyway.
I don't even know how to describe these guys, honestly. Got a bit of a dark or mysterious vibe to it.
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