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Endemoniada
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Location: Ireland
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:25 am 
 

Arcane Sun were/are a really excellent band from Ireland that not many people know about, but are unfortunatly split up and defunct. There songs are very majestic with a lot class riffs and awesome instrumental sections. The album is very very hard to get and I'm lucky to have it. So if anyone is looking interesting doom metal this might what their looking for. You should be able ot get it on amazon.de. If anyone wants I can send them a couple of songs to see what they think, just pm me.

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TadGhostal
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:32 am 
 

Doomsday wrote:
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This is a dumb question, but anyone knows where the samples from Electric Wizard's album Dopethone (those in Vinum Sabathi, Barbarian and I, the Witchfinder) come from?

Not sure about Vinum Sabbathi but the sample in Barbarian is from Conan the Barbarian and I believe the sample in I, the Witchfinder is from Hexen bis aufs Blut gequält (or: Mark of the Devil) from 1970.


I believe that the quote at the opening of "Vinum Sabbathi" comes from a 20/20 (American TV news show for those who don't know) segment on cults.

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Mungo
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Location: Australia
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:41 am 
 

TadGhostal wrote:
Doomsday wrote:
CrippledLucifer wrote:
This is a dumb question, but anyone knows where the samples from Electric Wizard's album Dopethone (those in Vinum Sabathi, Barbarian and I, the Witchfinder) come from?

Not sure about Vinum Sabbathi but the sample in Barbarian is from Conan the Barbarian and I believe the sample in I, the Witchfinder is from Hexen bis aufs Blut gequält (or: Mark of the Devil) from 1970.


I believe that the quote at the opening of "Vinum Sabbathi" comes from a 20/20 (American TV news show for those who don't know) segment on cults.


I recall Jus Oborn said in an interview that it was from a right wing christian show which claims that Satanists were kidnapping people and playing Iron Maiden backward to get satanic messages out of it or something :lol:

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Wra1th1s
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Location: Indonesia
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:33 pm 
 

Hello, I recently got into doom metal (shame on me!) and I'm looking for more stuff like Trouble, Witchfinder General, Cathedral, basically anything that reminds me of Sabbath. Thanks in advance!
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Masked_Jackal
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Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:40 pm 
 

^^^I posted it a page back, but it's worth mentioning at least once per page in this thread: Pagan Altar :metal:^^^

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TadGhostal
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:41 pm 
 

Wra1th1s wrote:
Hello, I recently got into doom metal (shame on me!) and I'm looking for more stuff like Trouble, Witchfinder General, Cathedral, basically anything that reminds me of Sabbath. Thanks in advance!


Saint Vitus, Sleep, Pentagram, and Electric Wizard are must haves.

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Weerwolf
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Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:19 am
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Location: Belgium
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:48 pm 
 

Wra1th1s wrote:
Hello, I recently got into doom metal (shame on me!) and I'm looking for more stuff like Trouble, Witchfinder General, Cathedral, basically anything that reminds me of Sabbath. Thanks in advance!

Hour of 13 and Jex Thoth.

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AvengerofTruth
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Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:26 pm 
 

I've been interested in exploring doom metal for a while, but I usually can't stand anythin too slow or boring. So what kind of heavy, epic, more upbeat doom might I start with?

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Empyreal
The Final Frontier

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:30 pm 
 

AvengerofTruth wrote:
I've been interested in exploring doom metal for a while, but I usually can't stand anythin too slow or boring. So what kind of heavy, epic, more upbeat doom might I start with?

Candlemass. :headbang: Nuff said.
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Cryptwatcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:40 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
AvengerofTruth wrote:
I've been interested in exploring doom metal for a while, but I usually can't stand anythin too slow or boring. So what kind of heavy, epic, more upbeat doom might I start with?

Candlemass. :headbang: Nuff said.


Took the words right out of my mouth. THEY ARE definitely WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
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Cryptwatcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:41 pm 
 

Oh yes, Candlemass wise, check out their album "Epicus Doomicus Metalicus" their songs Solitude and Demon's Gate are outstanding.
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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:43 pm 
 

Cryptwatcher wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
AvengerofTruth wrote:
I've been interested in exploring doom metal for a while, but I usually can't stand anythin too slow or boring. So what kind of heavy, epic, more upbeat doom might I start with?

Candlemass. :headbang: Nuff said.


Took the words right out of my mouth. THEY ARE definitely WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

I like the cut of your jib. The way you left "definitely" in lower case is quite cool. :p

But yeah, check out all of their first four albums, essential Doom.
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Cryptwatcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:47 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
Cryptwatcher wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
AvengerofTruth wrote:
I've been interested in exploring doom metal for a while, but I usually can't stand anythin too slow or boring. So what kind of heavy, epic, more upbeat doom might I start with?

Candlemass. :headbang: Nuff said.


Took the words right out of my mouth. THEY ARE definitely WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

I like the cut of your jib. The way you left "definitely" in lower case is quite cool. :p

But yeah, check out all of their first four albums, essential Doom.


Oh, I did not even notice, haha. I was just holding down the shift button and typing.
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Doomsday
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Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:11 am 
 

AvengerofTruth wrote:
I've been interested in exploring doom metal for a while, but I usually can't stand anythin too slow or boring. So what kind of heavy, epic, more upbeat doom might I start with?

If you want upbeat epic doom nothing beats While Heaven Wept.

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Nahsil
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Location: United States
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:24 am 
 

Endemoniada wrote:
Arcane Sun were/are a really excellent band from Ireland that not many people know about, but are unfortunatly split up and defunct. There songs are very majestic with a lot class riffs and awesome instrumental sections. The album is very very hard to get and I'm lucky to have it. So if anyone is looking interesting doom metal this might what their looking for. You should be able ot get it on amazon.de. If anyone wants I can send them a couple of songs to see what they think, just pm me.


Oh yes, Arcane Sun are first-rate death/doom.
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J
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Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:51 pm 
 

another recommendation for Arcane Sun. A beautiful album. definitely one of a kind.

Sentinel Records will be re-releasing it soon. www.sentinelireland.com

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GoatSodomyGasMask
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Joined: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:52 pm
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Location: Puerto Rico
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:31 am 
 

Doomsday wrote:
AvengerofTruth wrote:
I've been interested in exploring doom metal for a while, but I usually can't stand anythin too slow or boring. So what kind of heavy, epic, more upbeat doom might I start with?

If you want upbeat epic doom nothing beats While Heaven Wept.



Get Dantesco

Fucking brutal epic doom with operatic vocals
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Doomsday
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Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:03 am 
 

GoatSodomyGasMask wrote:
AvengerofTruth wrote:
I've been interested in exploring doom metal for a while, but I usually can't stand anythin too slow or boring. So what kind of heavy, epic, more upbeat doom might I start with?

Get Dantesco

Fucking brutal epic doom with operatic vocals

Too bad the new album is so weak then.

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colin040
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Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:00 pm
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Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:19 am 
 

Could anyone recommand me (melodic) death/doom metal that doesn't sound depressive but pretty relaxing? two good songs as examples are Black winter day by Amorphis and Gothic by Paradise lost.

Thanks in advance!

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Foxx
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Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:59 am
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:32 am 
 

Check out Ekklesiast. They're Russian melodic death/doom which I find to be rather relaxed and uplifting. If you don't mind lyrics that are in Russian you might like 'em.

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colin040
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Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:00 pm
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Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:35 am 
 

Foxx wrote:
Check out Ekklesiast. They're Russian melodic death/doom which I find to be rather relaxed and uplifting. If you don't mind lyrics that are in Russian you might like 'em.


hehe, though i prefer english lyrics i don't realy care, i'll check em out.

Thanks! :)

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DanFuckingLucas
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Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:20 am 
 

Does anybody know of any space doom? I'm not looking for doom simply with lyrics about space, before anybody recommends me simply bands that sing about space, but bands that have that Hawkwind, Ozric Tentacles kind of vibe - but you know, metal.
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Belial
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Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:39 pm
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Location: Tunisia
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:11 pm 
 

DanFuckingLucas wrote:
Does anybody know of any space doom? I'm not looking for doom simply with lyrics about space, before anybody recommends me simply bands that sing about space, but bands that have that Hawkwind, Ozric Tentacles kind of vibe - but you know, metal.

Monolithe should be close to that, try their albums.

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DeathForBlitzkrieg
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Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:23 pm
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Location: Austria
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:32 pm 
 

colin040 wrote:
Could anyone recommand me (melodic) death/doom metal that doesn't sound depressive but pretty relaxing? two good songs as examples are Black winter day by Amorphis and Gothic by Paradise lost.

Thanks in advance!


Syrach - Days of Wrath (2007)
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ZackP
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Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:21 pm 
 

AvengerofTruth wrote:
I've been interested in exploring doom metal for a while, but I usually can't stand anythin too slow or boring. So what kind of heavy, epic, more upbeat doom might I start with?



Mael Mordha

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DanFuckingLucas
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Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:51 pm 
 

ZackP wrote:
AvengerofTruth wrote:
I've been interested in exploring doom metal for a while, but I usually can't stand anythin too slow or boring. So what kind of heavy, epic, more upbeat doom might I start with?



Mael Mordha


Morgion are heavy and epic.

Belial_ thanks, I've downloaded the first album but won't get the chance to give it a go 'til tomorrow.
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Necrology666
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:26 pm 
 

If no one said this yet, Cryptal Darkness

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RaudtOgSvart
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:37 am 
 

colin040 wrote:
Could anyone recommand me (melodic) death/doom metal that doesn't sound depressive but pretty relaxing? two good songs as examples are Black winter day by Amorphis and Gothic by Paradise lost.

Thanks in advance!


If you don't mind any folk influence, I'd recommend Amber Tears. Very relaxing.

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Kiwion
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:24 am 
 

have any of you heard Mournful Congregation - The Dawning of Mournful Hymns? I myself prefer it to the monad of creation. And I'm now kind of searching for something like that one, any suggestions?

+ which would be the best Skepticism to start with?

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secretninja
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:23 pm 
 

Can you guys give me some good drone doom?
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Torghest666
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:39 pm 
 

secretninja wrote:
Can you guys give me some good drone doom?


LDRTFS, spanish Drone band, a bit in the vein of the popular Sunn O))), but maybe less monothone.

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CodyH
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:28 pm 
 

I was wondering if you guys could maybe point me towards bands that sludge bands such as Buzzov*en and Dystopia drew influence from.

I'm looking to listen further back into sludge metal's tree of influences.

There is certainly some kind of crust punk/hardcore influence as well as doom metal but could anyone point me towards any bands?

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TadGhostal
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:36 pm 
 

CodyH wrote:
I was wondering if you guys could maybe point me towards bands that sludge bands such as Buzzov*en and Dystopia drew influence from.

I'm looking to listen further back into sludge metal's tree of influences.

There is certainly some kind of crust punk/hardcore influence as well as doom metal but could anyone point me towards any bands?


The Melvins early albums ("Gluey Porch Treatments", "Ozma", etc) and Black Flag's "My War" are said to be big influences on sludge.

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yfg
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Location: China
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:40 pm 
 

can anyone give me any information of the projects that Wino involved? I am recently into Spirit Caravan and The Hidden Hand. Both bands are excellent. And I wanna find other projects of Wino or relevent people. Thanks!!!

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Infecthead
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:20 am 
 

I really like Warning (UK), are there any other doom bands out there that are as relentlessly depressive?

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twophoton
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Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:37 am 
 

TadGhostal wrote:
CodyH wrote:
I was wondering if you guys could maybe point me towards bands that sludge bands such as Buzzov*en and Dystopia drew influence from.

I'm looking to listen further back into sludge metal's tree of influences.

There is certainly some kind of crust punk/hardcore influence as well as doom metal but could anyone point me towards any bands?


The Melvins early albums ("Gluey Porch Treatments", "Ozma", etc) and Black Flag's "My War" are said to be big influences on sludge.


Speaking of such, I just got my hands on Burning Witch's Crippled Lucifer, which was reissued recently on 2 CDs. Awesome.

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TadGhostal
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:40 am 
 

yfg wrote:
can anyone give me any information of the projects that Wino involved? I am recently into Spirit Caravan and The Hidden Hand. Both bands are excellent. And I wanna find other projects of Wino or relevent people. Thanks!!!


Well, of course, there is The Obsessed, Wino's first band. Good stuff, although a bit more Biker-rock than doom to my ears. And then there's Saint Vitus, one of the keystone doom bands. Anything they put out was good. Wino also appeared on the second Place of Skulls disc. Pretty decent stuff. Place of Skulls can get a bit religious at times (not real preachy, though), but that's kind of muted on the album with Wino, probably because Wino's not a Christian and wrote half the songs.

There's a also a project in the works call Shrinebuilder. It includes Scott Kelly from Neurosis and the members of Om. I don't believe there's any music available now, but with that line up, I can't imagine it being anything less than fantastic.

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BrutalDoom
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:12 am 
 

Searching for romantic death/doom or gothic/doom, Any suggestions ?

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Belial
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Location: Tunisia
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:35 am 
 

BrutalDoom wrote:
Searching for romantic death/doom or gothic/doom, Any suggestions ?

-Romantic Death/Doom:
Dissolving of Prodigy, Mournful Gust, Saturnus, Inborn Suffering, Dimness Through Infinity, Stone Wings, Mar de Grises, Ningizzia, In Somnis, Lethian Dreams, Remembrance, Lament Christ.

-Gothic/Doom:
Silentium, Adagio (Bra), Cryptal Darkness, How Like a Winter, Al Akhirah, Ashes You Leave, Sirrah.

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caspian
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:22 pm 
 

Torghest666 wrote:
secretninja wrote:
Can you guys give me some good drone doom?


LDRTFS, spanish Drone band, a bit in the vein of the popular Sunn O))), but maybe less monothone.


Terrible recommendation; LDRTFS aren't terrible but they are super repetitive.


Recs:
Hyatari- Very accessible droney stuff, some seriously huge tribal beats, some faster sections, and also plenty of massive low end drones. Highly recommended.

Sunn O))), obviously; get their first two records, big riffs repeated a lot.

Nadja (shut up Kvisling!! :P) Excellent drone doom, very fuzzy and in a way quite pretty; the rerecorded version of touched is their most accessible, some seriously huge riffs and heaps of layering, if you're a patient lad get Thaumogenesis, a rather excellent hour long epic.

Three recommendations is enough; tell me which one of these three you liked the most (and why, etc etc) and we'll go on from there.
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