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jookyle
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:15 pm 
 

This may sound like a weird request given the genre but could recommend any doom metal that would be considered on the faster side of doom metal?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:20 pm 
 

SolstafirAquilaria wrote:
I'll be seeing Blood Ceremony (and Kylesa) this Sunday, and that should be pretty good. I hear Blood Ceremony are fantastic live.

Ah cool man, I'll be seeing them live as well in a week. Especially exited about Kylesa, but Blood Ceremony should be awesome as well. I somewhat dig White hills as well when I'm in the mood for that kind of psych stuff. Have no idea who lazer/wulf are, though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:49 am 
 

jookyle wrote:
This may sound like a weird request given the genre but could recommend any doom metal that would be considered on the faster side of doom metal?


Check out Cathedral's mid-career works (The Ethereal Mirror to Caravan Beyond Redemption). Not all stuffs from these albums are up-tempo per se but there's a balanced combination of fast and slow songs.

Here's a sample:


Earthen Grave (Thrash/doom with cool Danzig-esque atmosphere)


Apart from that check out stoner bands like Orange Goblin, Fireball Ministry, Red Fang etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:43 pm 
 

dystopia4 wrote:
SolstafirAquilaria wrote:
I'll be seeing Blood Ceremony (and Kylesa) this Sunday, and that should be pretty good. I hear Blood Ceremony are fantastic live.

Ah cool man, I'll be seeing them live as well in a week. Especially exited about Kylesa, but Blood Ceremony should be awesome as well. I somewhat dig White hills as well when I'm in the mood for that kind of psych stuff. Have no idea who lazer/wulf are, though.



I saw Kylesa with Gwar and Ghoul. It was easy to tell they weren't given nearly enough time as they wanted to get set up for their set, but goddamn if they didn't blow the roof off the place. I've only listened to this newest album once so far, it's hard to get an impression, but my immediate observation is it's not nearly as accessible as Spiral Shadow. Not a bad thing at all. We'll see..
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:06 am 
 

jookyle wrote:
This may sound like a weird request given the genre but could recommend any doom metal that would be considered on the faster side of doom metal?


Altar of Oblivion is like a faster, punchier Candlemass. Trad doom bands like Candlemass to tend to speed up and become NWOBHM-like sometimes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35BjEYKRdto

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:05 pm 
 

Are there ''traditional'' sounding doom metal albums out there with extreme vocals? I'm NOT looking for doom/death, but rather Something that still has that Black Sabbath-ish vibe to it with harsh vocal approach. Think of something along the lines of Paradise Lost's Shades of God or Cathedral's Forest of Equilibrium.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:26 pm 
 

Really digging me some The Flight of Sleipneir. Like seriously, where has this been all my life?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:46 pm 
 

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Are there ''traditional'' sounding doom metal albums out there with extreme vocals? I'm NOT looking for doom/death, but rather Something that still has that Black Sabbath-ish vibe to it with harsh vocal approach. Think of something along the lines of Paradise Lost's Shades of God or Cathedral's Forest of Equilibrium.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:44 pm 
 

colin040 wrote:
Are there ''traditional'' sounding doom metal albums out there with extreme vocals? I'm NOT looking for doom/death, but rather Something that still has that Black Sabbath-ish vibe to it with harsh vocal approach. Think of something along the lines of Paradise Lost's Shades of God or Cathedral's Forest of Equilibrium.


Finnish Doom/Death band God Forsaken had some songs with that Sabbathy vibe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJFAvq8j1E0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGeoHiA1w8s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwc-IUoyTKY

The early work of another Norwegian band Godsend might be up your street too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eECTBixAsVc

Or you might like some old friends of mine, UK band Innards, they were an old school DM band with a massive Sabbath groove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdnSbZsJv-o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYFdMAj_8cw
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:13 pm 
 

Can anyone recommend any sludge/doom similar to Corrupted's Garten der Unbewusstheit? Stuff that would be both crushingly heavy at times, but also have tinges of post rock and ambient.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:21 am 
 

My friend just recently got me into doom/stoner/sludge metal. I'm mostly a thrash type of guy, but so far I've been loving it.

The albums I've listened to so far are Elder's Dead Roots Stirring and Electric Wizard's Dopethrone and Come My Fanatics. I've liked all of it thus far, but I feel as if it's almost too... soft. I want something with a thicker, psychedelic/atmospheric sound, that focuses heavily on riffs and is bass heavy. Dead Roots Stirring feels a bit like Alice in Chains, and I want to try to move away from that, but while still keeping the heaviness of the album. I'd like to keep the solos fast and bountiful though.

Another request is the same thing as above, but with a more mournful/bleak sound to it, and slower paced, emotion-filled solos.

To both of the request though, something with minimal vocals or something similar to Elder/Electric Wizard.

If anyone can help me out, thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:40 am 
 

Doomed Cowboy wrote:
Really digging me some The Flight of Sleipnir. Like seriously, where has this been all my life?



Thanks for the name drop, checked them out and I'm really liking this!!! Exactly the kind of music that I've been looking for lately
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:00 am 
 

Cthulhoid wrote:
My friend just recently got me into doom/stoner/sludge metal. I'm mostly a thrash type of guy, but so far I've been loving it.

The albums I've listened to so far are Elder's Dead Roots Stirring and Electric Wizard's Dopethrone and Come My Fanatics. I've liked all of it thus far, but I feel as if it's almost too... soft. I want something with a thicker, psychedelic/atmospheric sound, that focuses heavily on riffs and is bass heavy. Dead Roots Stirring feels a bit like Alice in Chains, and I want to try to move away from that, but while still keeping the heaviness of the album. I'd like to keep the solos fast and bountiful though.

For a heavy fucked up guitar tone not completely unlike Dopethrone, try Conan's "Horseback Battle Hammer" EP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyHXV0g2kM4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se3uweDPJYA

You might want to give Suma's "Let The Churches Burn" a spin. Very heavy with some killer riffing and atmosphere. Has some very aggressive moments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_e47GQUIR0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K6LsDLek-8

You could always try extreme doom a try. Wormphlegm is always classic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdwMU3qtLLM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl1jxJue3kw
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:55 pm 
 

Looking for some more obscure stuff in the stoner genre. Anything sort of like Monster Magnet, Orange Goblin, Atomic Bitchwax etc.

Also not to sure if there is anything, but looking for thrash stoner type stuff. Think Exodus mixed with Clutch

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:40 pm 
 

Still rocking out to the new Dream Death album and I'm thinking about picking up Penance's The Road Revisited. For those that have heard it, I'm curious if it's better or worse than The Road Less Travelled or hardly different from the other recording and just something for completists only.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:02 pm 
 

What's the general consensus regarding Om? Are they worth it or are just run of the mill stoner doom? Is there any preferable place to pick up on their career?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:15 pm 
 

nosferatu1234 wrote:
Doomed Cowboy wrote:
Really digging me some The Flight of Sleipnir. Like seriously, where has this been all my life?



Thanks for the name drop, checked them out and I'm really liking this!!! Exactly the kind of music that I've been looking for lately

Yeah man, a great mix of heavy riffs and slow mo headbanging with some folky touches and a soft side. Like a viking beserker going nuts, then slowly bleeding on the battlefield afterwards.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:31 pm 
 

androdion wrote:
What's the general consensus regarding Om? Are they worth it or are just run of the mill stoner doom? Is there any preferable place to pick up on their career?
It really doesn't get much better than Om my friend. I rec ALL of their full length albums and the Current 93 split. Start with the first album then listen all the way through to the last so that you can appreciate the bands progression more. :)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:41 pm 
 

Yessir, Om are killer. Conference of the Birds and Advaitic Songs are probably the best, although you can't really go wrong with any of their work except maybe the live albums.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:20 pm 
 

Just got Paul Chain's Detaching From Satan EP and I'm fairly floored by it. A lot riffier than I expected. Some of it even comes across a bit epic. There were two "secret" bonus tracks unlisted. One is 30 minutes the other is 18 something, the shorter one is pretty bad ass and sounds like a Hawkwind jam. 18 minutes on 3 riffs and a bunch of guitar freak-out solos? Yes please!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:32 pm 
 

androdion wrote:
What's the general consensus regarding Om? Are they worth it or are just run of the mill stoner doom? Is there any preferable place to pick up on their career?

All their stuff is pretty damn good, my favorite is perhaps Conference of the Birds, awesome stuff. Pilgrimage is also highly recommended from me, they're a good studying/reading band too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:48 pm 
 

Om's discography is on the "to do list". :D
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:39 am 
 

So I just found Electric Wizard. Their Doom sound is something I haven't really connected with since Black Sabbath so many years ago.

I want to explore other Doom bands now. Those are about the only two I've ever really listened to. Where to begin?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:39 am 
 

You might as well start with some of the classic bands of the genre. Bands like Pentagram, Saint Vitus, Witchfinder General, Candlemass, Trouble and The Obsessed. The debut albums are good starting points. I'm sure people will feel the need to add more well-known and obscure bands to my list, so don't worry if the names I gave you aren't enough to satisfy your cravings. :wink:

Oh, and my favorite album of all time is a doom album. Reverend Bizarre's In the Rectory of the Bizarre Reverend. So try that puppy out as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:18 am 
 

Baroque1 wrote:
So I just found Electric Wizard. Their Doom sound is something I haven't really connected with since Black Sabbath so many years ago.

I want to explore other Doom bands now. Those are about the only two I've ever really listened to. Where to begin?

If you like Sabbath and Electric Wizard, then Sleep should be your next port of call, especially the 2nd album "Sleep's Holy Mountain"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdtATSsw4HQ

And also check out Witchsorrow, I always think they sound like EW without the psych influences:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ZGaiONgs4
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:48 pm 
 

I have a request for you all. I am getting into stoner metal these days but I am still pretty much a newb in the genre and I noticed I like the faster/speed metal influenced stuff I hear. A couple examples:

Leeches of Lore's more straight forward style like the beginning of this track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItoM7Myx52I
Or what the band Meth leppard do here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kxIl-mu8N0

Fast, and thrashy, but with a stoner/sludgy tone to the entire thing.

Anything else out there like this?
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The_Apex_of_Collapse wrote:
I have a request for you all. I am getting into stoner metal these days but I am still pretty much a newb in the genre and I noticed I like the faster/speed metal influenced stuff I hear. A couple examples:

Leeches of Lore's more straight forward style like the beginning of this track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItoM7Myx52I
Or what the band Meth leppard do here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kxIl-mu8N0

Fast, and thrashy, but with a stoner/sludgy tone to the entire thing.

Anything else out there like this?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:19 am 
 

Apex, those references are more thrash than stoner. Maybe the thrash rec thread could also help.

With regards to your request, The Fucking Wrath come to mind. I got their "Season of Evil" album and it's a great mixbag of stoner/thrash songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=040sZrUbLpI

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Can anyone suggest a good gothic/doom band similar to Type O Negative? I've already listened to Seventh Void, Kenny Hickey's other band, and Sal Abruscato's A Pale Horse Named Death.
Type O Negative sounded heavier while still retaining that gothic feel and it's something I really can't find in another band. Any ideas?
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I just reviewed the debut by a band called Stillborn (the Swedish one) that reminded me of Type O Negative in a lot of places (especially the vocals). The later releases might be even closer.

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UlrichAcheronNacht wrote:
Can anyone suggest a good gothic/doom band similar to Type O Negative? I've already listened to Seventh Void, Kenny Hickey's other band, and Sal Abruscato's A Pale Horse Named Death.
Type O Negative sounded heavier while still retaining that gothic feel and it's something I really can't find in another band. Any ideas?


Krownn's lead singer reminds me of Type O Negative
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shouvince wrote:
Apex, those references are more thrash than stoner. Maybe the thrash rec thread could also help.

With regards to your request, The Fucking Wrath come to mind. I got their "Season of Evil" album and it's a great mixbag of stoner/thrash songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=040sZrUbLpI

Hazzard's Cure might also fit the bill.
http://hazzardscure.bandcamp.com/album/hazzards-cure
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I don't like the band, but Woods of Ypres's final album does take on a strong Type O Negative vibe. In fact it's probably the only album by the band I'll ever listen to by choice.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:42 am 
 

iamntbatman wrote:
I just reviewed the debut by a band called Stillborn (the Swedish one) that reminded me of Type O Negative in a lot of places (especially the vocals). The later releases might be even closer.



I liked this quite a bit, thanks! I'll start looking into Stillborn's other stuff.

dystopia4 wrote:
I don't like the band, but Woods of Ypres's final album does take on a strong Type O Negative vibe. In fact it's probably the only album by the band I'll ever listen to by choice.


And thank you, too. I just downloaded this and it sounds much better than the other stuff I've heard from them; I didn't think they'd put anything out like this.

Now, another challenge: does anybody know of any bands that are similar to old Black Sabbath? I mean from their self-titled album or perhaps Masters of Reality - those are my favorite Sabbath albums. Anyways, I can't really describe the sound they produce, but I'm sure all of you are familiar with old Black Sabbath (I mean, they're the fathers of doom metal, they should be known, right?). I've already listened to Witch and they sound remarkably similar in terms of instruments. Any help on this one?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:39 pm 
 

UlrichAcheronNacht wrote:
Now, another challenge: does anybody know of any bands that are similar to old Black Sabbath? I mean from their self-titled album or perhaps Masters of Reality - those are my favorite Sabbath albums. Anyways, I can't really describe the sound they produce, but I'm sure all of you are familiar with old Black Sabbath (I mean, they're the fathers of doom metal, they should be known, right?). I've already listened to Witch and they sound remarkably similar in terms of instruments. Any help on this one?


On the more heavy metal/doom side, there is Pentagram with their album Day of Reckoning. On the more stonerish side, is the Sleep album Sleep's Holy Mountain. Then there is a clone/rip off band called Orchid, but I don't really like them, so I'll let someone else point you in the direction of their best stuff. These Pentagram and Sleep albums are drenched in sabbath worship, yet retain their own identity.

Pentagram - Evil Seed
Pentagram - Broken Vows
Pentagram - When the Screams Come

Sleep - Dragonaut
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UlrichAcheronNacht wrote:
Now, another challenge: does anybody know of any bands that are similar to old Black Sabbath? I mean from their self-titled album or perhaps Masters of Reality - those are my favorite Sabbath albums. Anyways, I can't really describe the sound they produce, but I'm sure all of you are familiar with old Black Sabbath (I mean, they're the fathers of doom metal, they should be known, right?). I've already listened to Witch and they sound remarkably similar in terms of instruments. Any help on this one?

Look up Orchid. If you ask me, it sounds like the most sincere form of Sabbath Worship around.
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Really really trying to enjoy Forsaken but the Christian lyrics are turning me off!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:35 pm 
 

I listened to this and got into a Neurosis vibe. A good sign, isn't it?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:12 pm 
 

I am really craving something like Pallbearer - Sorrow and Extinction. Warning do nothing for me, 40 Watt Sun are meh. Can anyone recommend something perhaps lesser known than what people usually suggest for Pallbearer fans??

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Ever listened to The Wounded Kings? I don't know how much they sound like Pallbearer because I can't finish either of their albums. But they're both "sleepy time doom" so maybe you'll dig it. Check out The Shadow Over Atlantis.
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