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Temple Of Blood
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:41 pm 
 

FasterDisaster wrote:
You're thinking of technical thrash metal. Melodic thrash isn't really a thing... unless you're Battlecross.


To me, bands like BLIND ILLUSION are far more melodic than technical. CORONER, for example, are very technical but generally not as melodic.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:04 pm 
 

Usually when thrash bands start using more melodies and traditional metal elements they tend to have "speed metal" or "power metal" appended to their genre on the website. Which is curiously true for all the bands you listed except for the last two. But then again Blind Illusion started out more traditional and then went proggier, so melodies are kind of part of the package anyway.

Melodic thrash was never really a thing yeah. At least not like melodic death where it became a separated scene from traditional death metal. There are a lot of thrash bands that abuse of melodies, that much is true. ;)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:02 pm 
 

The duder above me nailed it. Strong melodies in thrash are tied with the speed metal side of thrash. It really has nothing to do with technicality. Technical thrash metal generally has melody tied to it just because of the nature of writing technical riffs in thrash that usually end up having a galloping or driving pace which it turns gives it a melodic vibe.

I still don't know how Battlecross managed to write actual melodic thrash metal. They're so crazy good and it's... ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:02 am 
 

Examples of such Battlecross songs? I'm listening to Never Coming Back right now and this sounds more or less like every other melothrash band that gets incorrectly labeled as metalcore.

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OlderBudweiser
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:29 am 
 

looking for bands like mortillery. Female fronted thrash, but with a powerfull voice. Cara from Mortillery has a very powerfull voice, but she doesn't scream all the time, sometimes she gives me an Rob Halford vibe.

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Temple Of Blood
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:41 pm 
 

OlderBudweiser wrote:
looking for bands like mortillery. Female fronted thrash, but with a powerfull voice. Cara from Mortillery has a very powerfull voice, but she doesn't scream all the time, sometimes she gives me an Rob Halford vibe.


What about ICE AGE, SENTINEL BEAST, ZNOW WHITE, or the second MEGACE album?
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OlderBudweiser
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:09 pm 
 

Temple Of Blood wrote:
OlderBudweiser wrote:
looking for bands like mortillery. Female fronted thrash, but with a powerfull voice. Cara from Mortillery has a very powerfull voice, but she doesn't scream all the time, sometimes she gives me an Rob Halford vibe.


What about ICE AGE, SENTINEL BEAST, ZNOW WHITE, or the second MEGACE album?


Thanks for the input, but already know these bands. Searching for more modern bands.

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mjollnir
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:25 pm 
 

OlderBudweiser wrote:
looking for bands like mortillery. Female fronted thrash, but with a powerfull voice. Cara from Mortillery has a very powerfull voice, but she doesn't scream all the time, sometimes she gives me an Rob Halford vibe.


Mortillery are one of my favorite modern thrash bands and yes, Cara is a killer vocalist. Can't really think of another modern band that's female fronted and sounds like her. That's going to be a tough one.
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FasterDisaster
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:27 pm 
 

Mortillery is terrible. Utterly forgettable.
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colin040
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:55 pm 
 

Anyone here a fan of Ripper? Just heard one of their tracks today and thought it was pretty cool; raw early sounding thrash-death with obvious influences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncwQORbhjIU

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mjollnir
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:15 pm 
 

FasterDisaster wrote:
Mortillery is terrible. Utterly forgettable.


Well I guess it's a matter of taste. They are a fun thrash band. Their first album is a bit stronger than their latest but I like them a lot.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:38 pm 
 

Znowhite rules! A criminally underrated band if you ask me - and their original line-up was three black dudes and a white chick, which is all kinds of awesome, especially for that time period.

That Ripper track is pretty awesome too. Reminds me of really early Sodom/Kreator/Destruction.

Mortillery I want to check out now, even though I'm not a big fan of modern thrash.

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Smitty
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:49 am 
 

LeMiserable wrote:
Hey, that Invocator album is going in the right direction, I kinda want that without the squeaky vocals...


Well, if you find something let us know. That Demonic is the kind of stuff I'm looking for. I can't think of any heavier thrash (groove/thrash/melo-death/core/whatever :) ), except Exhorder (24 years later I still think Desecrator is one of the heaviest songs of all time. Hell, I think The Law is still one of the heaviest albums.). But they don't sound like Demonic.

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LeMiserable
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:07 am 
 

Well... I'm listening to Solstice's To Dust right now and it's kinda what i'm looking for, perhaps minus the blast beats, but not necessarily without...

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Cabecao
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:11 am 
 

FasterDisaster wrote:
The duder above me nailed it. Strong melodies in thrash are tied with the speed metal side of thrash. It really has nothing to do with technicality. Technical thrash metal generally has melody tied to it just because of the nature of writing technical riffs in thrash that usually end up having a galloping or driving pace which it turns gives it a melodic vibe.

I still don't know how Battlecross managed to write actual melodic thrash metal. They're so crazy good and it's... ridiculous.


Where do Sylosis sit? IMO they're technical and thrashy as hell.

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androdion
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:30 am 
 

Cabecao wrote:
FasterDisaster wrote:
The duder above me nailed it. Strong melodies in thrash are tied with the speed metal side of thrash. It really has nothing to do with technicality. Technical thrash metal generally has melody tied to it just because of the nature of writing technical riffs in thrash that usually end up having a galloping or driving pace which it turns gives it a melodic vibe.

I still don't know how Battlecross managed to write actual melodic thrash metal. They're so crazy good and it's... ridiculous.


Where do Sylosis sit? IMO they're technical and thrashy as hell.

Never having heard said band, and judging it only by the MA page, I have to wonder what your point really is. We were talking about actual thrash bands and not of some form of crossover between melodeath and thrash.
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OlderBudweiser
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:28 am 
 

FasterDisaster wrote:
Mortillery is terrible. Utterly forgettable.


Music wise you may have a point. Vocal wise your point is invalid. She "blows" most male thrash vocalist right out of the water.

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LeMiserable
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:59 am 
 

Mortillery is pretty bad, I went to a concert where they were a side act, it felt like they were on for 3 hours when they only played for 45 minutes.

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mjollnir
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:10 pm 
 

LeMiserable wrote:
Mortillery is pretty bad, I went to a concert where they were a side act, it felt like they were on for 3 hours when they only played for 45 minutes.


Coming from a guy who thinks Coma of Souls is Gothenburg, I stick with my original thoughts on Mortillery! :roll:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:18 am 
 

mjollnir wrote:
LeMiserable wrote:
Mortillery is pretty bad, I went to a concert where they were a side act, it felt like they were on for 3 hours when they only played for 45 minutes.


Coming from a guy who thinks Coma of Souls is Gothenburg, I stick with my original thoughts on Mortillery! :roll:


Perhaps. It did have an influence on the Gothenburg sound they used later on, doesn't make the album Gothenburg indeed, but it did have a hand in it.

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colin040
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:51 am 
 

I still wouldn't associate that album with any Gothenburg-ish stuff but whatever.

Are Metal Church's 00's albums worth hearing?

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Temple Of Blood
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:47 pm 
 

colin040 wrote:
Are Metal Church's 00's albums worth hearing?


Not in my opinion but I did really enjoy the song "Leave them Behind" an well as the WAYNE solo album.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:23 pm 
 

colin040 wrote:
Are Metal Church's 00's albums worth hearing?

The Weight of the World is somewhat decent. Not close to what they did in their heyday, but decent. The albums after that have no redeeming qualities at all. After Kirk Arrington left, it's not Metal Church anymore. It's just Vanderhoof doing god knows what.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:27 am 
 

I think I'm the only person that likes Generation Nothing more than anything since Masterpeace. It's a lot more to the point than some of the others, and the vocalist actually put a bit of grit into that one.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:50 am 
 

It's been 3 years or so since I've heard Masterpeace. The music itself sounded cool but the vocals were totally akward. David Wayne really seemed to lost it then. The two new songs Metal Church played from their most recent album didn't do much for me when I saw them live. Maybe I'll check some of the other 2 00's albums soon.

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