Any of you heard Anatellon Tromos? It's great Thrash Metal / Crust

Not quite thrash... more along the lines of speed metal, but Helstar's Twas a Night of a HELish Christmas is very good. I normally detest live albums, but that one rocks rather handedly. Also you can get it for like 3 bucks, since it got overproduced.

Just kind of going along with this, I'd say most thrash fans could probably really enjoy Helstar's stuff, if you don't mind the vocals. I'd definitely say "Nosferatu" is pretty much power/thrash too and on that one, Rivera didn't shriek nearly as much.

Well I've got a bunch of [fanboy] reviews up for most of their stuff, overall I'd say they're incredible.

I'm just getting into Thrash having only heard of bands like Kreator and Testament, and since I know there are bands that mix Black and Thrash together such as Sodom. I am a huge fan of bands like Hellhammer and Sodom, so does anyone know any good blackened thrash bands?


Also, If it's not the trouble, could someone recommend me just regular good thrash? I love Testament so I thought I would give that a go. Theres only one thing I don't want in this rec though, clean vocals...they totally kill the mood in which I'm looking for.

Thanks in advance!

Aura Noir reminds me of Hellhammer sped way the hell up with a bit of Venom thrown in. Excellent blackened thrash. No scratch that. The best.

Fucking awesome, loving this.

Hmm:
- Give Artillery's stuff a shot
- Onslaught's "The Force"
- Exumer's "Possessed by Fire"
- Whiplash's first two albums
- Razor "Evil Invaders"
- Rigor Mortis' s/t debut (fucking insane)
- Ulysses Siren "Above the Ashes"
- Sacrifice (Can) "Forward To Termination"

Just some random ones. Some of these do have somewhat clean vocals but, they're all a little rough, scratchy, varied, etc, and a lot of that stuff is kickass if you're new to thrash! Tougher than your typical stuff.

Since you like Kreator you might like Destruction (Ger) and maybe some Deathrow (Ger), they seem to be a hit or miss for some though.

Bulldozer's (Ita) one of the only black/thrash bands I really know about, you might like them. I like "IX".

Listening to Bulldozer and I think this shit is pretty sweet.

Thanks for the other recs, I'm going to order some of those album in just a second once I get a listen.

I never knew Thrash was this fun...

As mentioned, Gama Bomb's new album is absolutely kickass. Frankly, I wasn't very impressed by their debut, but this one really got everything right, from riffs to solos to vocals to production. Great riffs, a production that really has a punch, shredding and melodic but furious solos, pissed off powerful vocals... I guess this is one of the best thrash albums of the 2000s.

Si, si.

Black-thrash, aye?
Try Destroyer 666 .

Try Hypnosia - Extreme Hatred.
Try Necrodeath - 100% Hell.

Not really black, but it may have elements that you could like, possibly. Lemme know if you liked 'em.

I've heard of Destryer 666 and I have Unchain the Wolves
I'm a huge black metal fan so yeah.

Anyways, as for Hypnosia, It's fucking great, same with Necrodeath. Thanks Man!

Glad I could help. Hang in here, some of the more experienced members will have better reccos. But now I'm gonna bump this topic and put it back on the first page of Metal Discussion because that's where THRASH BELONGS!!!


THE COCK OF ROCK IS HUGE.

THE DICK OF METAL IS BIGGER.

NOT BIGGER THAN THE BONER OF THRASH.


random quotes from forummers. :lol::lol:

Sigged

By the way, I'll repeat. Any of you heard Anatellon Tromos?

What's crust? I hadn't heard the term before I joined MA.

Crust is to Punk what Black Metal is to Metal.

Pretty much. Think grindcore but played slower, sort of. Like a rawer, harder version of hardcore punk.

As in the most extreme variant? I thought grindcore was the most extreme.

Grindcore is to Punk what Death Metal is to Metal

Crust is slower, darker and more gritty. Plus, it's dominated by anarchists

And sloppier , but thanks for clearing things up Mors_Gloria.

Alright, on topic, I'm currently looking for technical/progressive thrash in the vein of Watchtower, Heathen and Dark Angel (TDNH-era of course,) can anyone recommend me some good bands? Thanks in advance!

All three of those are fairly different flavors of technical/progressive thrash, so...

Watchtower-esque: Realm, Toxik, and Target (well, only Master Project Genesis for these guys) are three more tech-geared two-album classics. If only Ulysses Siren stuck around for long enough for a couple of releases they'd be there too.

Heathen-esque: I don't really consider Heathen to be technical or progressive thrash metal, but Cyclone Temple's I Hate Therefore I Am has to be mentioned if you want it long and melodic. Since you do though I'll recommend Stone (No Anesthesia and Colours, especially) to you as well. Oh, and I almost forgot Artillery's By Inheritance, a total melodic riff-fest.

Dark Angel-esque: Time Does Not Heal still holds the record for riff-count quite easily AFAIK, but Revenant's Prophecies of a Dying World is comparable, although more thrash/death. Antagonist (from Wisconsin) has a pretty good EP from 1993 as well, that manages to be progressive without going either speed/power/thrash or death/thrash.

I'm not sure where Anacrusis, Coroner, or Mekong Delta fit into any of those three groups but they're all obligatory if you haven't already heard them.

EDIT: Forgot Voivod.

Good thing I refreshed the page before replying, Hamburger nailed a lot there. Check those out.

Also, Artillery comes to mind for me. They're not exactly that technical, but pretty odd and original sometimes. Good stuff regardless.

And if you like Realm, Toxik, etc, I think you'd like Deus Vult. I also often see people bring up Forbidden when Coroner is mentioned, personally haven't listened to both that much though.

Throwing an oddball out there ... they're not really thrash, though I don't think you can label them at all: Slauter Xstroyes. Crazy shit.

Don't forget Accuser, "Who Dominates Who?" Every track is pretty long and it's progressive.

While I did enjoy Ron Rinehart on Leave Scars, I do agree that he isn't in that same league as Doty. I've got some live demo (without Hoglan I believe) that has Doty singing on it but they totally blueball you by only playing the intro to Darkness Descends. I should check that one out again...

Anyway, I'm gonna check out Live Undead since it has some of my favorite songs from Slayer on it (Show No Mercy )

I'll give this a try too, but I'm finding myself not enjoying anything as much as the Burning Star material.

Also, I deserve a Nobel Prize for recreating that last set of quotes in my half sleep/stoned state of mind.

Edit: Live Undead was very good, I'd recommend it to just about anyone into early era-Slayer

How about some thrash similar to Vio-lence - Eternal Nightmare?

Can anyone recommand me stuff similar to Darkness descends by Dark angel? not too technical, neither too brutal, no growling vocals (for example pleasure to kill by kreator) but just clean vocals, yet clean screamings.

Thanks in advance!

There is nothing like it. Exodus, Atrophy and Death Angel are similar, but they are still very different. Vio-Lence is truly one of a kind.

THANKS! I'm just exploring this genre, great stuff, I already listened to Amebix - Arise, Doom - War Crimes and some Polish shit xD Must get Iskra but enough off-topic

Listen to Hellbastard. Their demo Ripper Crust coined the term Crust. They are like a mix of thrash and crust.

I fucking love them

Crust most certainly has as many underground bands in the scene as Black Metal does, and comes from around the world as well. Its much more aggresive than other Punk sub-genres, and sometimes even incorporates Metal styling in song structure.

A few other key Crust bands:
Crucifix, Aus Rotten, Antichism, Caustic Christ, Nasuea, Mouth Sewn Shut, Rudimentary Peni, and Damad.

Thanks for the recs everyone! But I'm surprised nobody mentioned Equinox(Nor). Fucking great tech-thrash from Norway

I wouldn't call MSS a 'key crust band' by any means :\ Put A//Political on that list though!

Definitely check out ISKRA if you havent already; they're 'blackened crust' , but a lot of their stuff is thrashy and may just be what you're looking for.

I would have to suggest checking out Witchtrap from Colombia. These guys are fucking thrash maniacs who play it straight forward and simple, with a blackened touch. This band only exists to make heads bang. I like Sorceress Bitch the best, but you can grab "The First Necromancy" from Nuclear War Now! for five bucks and it has like 22 songs from their demo/ep days. A lot of really raw versions of the stuff thats on Sorceress Bitch. If you don't mind raw production (compared to most thrash, not most black metal) this would be a great (and cheap) place to start with them.

Devastator (FL) is another black/thrash band that has really impressed me with each full length release. I keep singing their praises and waiting for everyone to acknowledge their superiority. I'm beginning to think maybe I'm just the odd man out on this one. Anyways, they write a lot of long songs (atleast compared to most black/thrash bands) and they don't really have a LOT of riffs per song. Its just that each riff is fucking amazing to me. I would recommend starting with "Nuclear Proliferation" as it is probably their most accessible album so far. Every single full length is quality though, I assure you.

Finally I have to mention Flagellator's "Channeling the Acheron". This band is a side project of Akhenaten, of Judas Iscariot fame. The sole release from these guys is so good that I'm usually pissed off after listening to it because I desperately want more. Its relatively short and oh so sweet, but I can't believe he didn't continue with this project. This album gets right down to the fucking point. You will be compelled to head bang on every single track, but it will be over before you know it and you'll be begging for more.

Hope this was helpful, let me know what you think...

Also, for anyone looking to get into Crust you must check out Deviated Instinct, Excrement of War, Doom, and Antisect.

Sweet recommendations guys, keep them coming!

Holy shit that was fucking fast, I guess you were already familiar with these bands. Thats what I get for being arrogant and thinking no one listens to Flagellator. Thats awesome though, black/thrash is probably my favorite type of metal. Alright lets try some more:


Sodomizer's "The Dead Shall Rise to Kill" almost put me off with what I consider to be an overuse of samples. Pretty much every song starts with some sort of sample. The music completely makes up for this though. They are listed as Black/Speed Metal and thats probably accurate. Much cleaner sounds than I would have expected from a band called Sodomizer but they fucking slay regardless. Tight song writing, passionate vocals, great stuff. They have gotten a good deal of praise around here though, so you may be up on them already.

Next up we have "Satanic Lust" by Warhorde. I found this one-man band when I was looking over the Barbarian Wrath roster. I've never heard any clamor about this shit but the sound was tailor-made for my tastes. Its fucking FILTHY sounding first-wave BM worship. Fairly simple songs, pure headbanging madness. Should appeal to fans of early Bathory and Sodom, who don't give a fuck about "progression".

Lastly I would apprehensively suggest Abigail. They do reinforce some of the stereotypes you had against thrash. Its mostly about beer, sex, and satan. Its just a retarded good time, plain and simple. I wouldn't call the drumming "bad", just simplistic and d-beat influenced. I'd start with "Forever Street Metal Bitch" and move forward from there. Their debut album "Intercourse and Lust" was a bit more serious and BM influenced so you might like it better, personally its my least favorite.

P.S.

I don't want to be condescending but you make it sound as if you are so new to thrash I have to ask, are you familiar with the South American scene? I would think being a BM fan you would have listened to "I.N.R.I" by Sarcofago which is an obvious classic. If that sound appeals, you owe it to yourself to check out Vulcano's "Bloody Vengeance", Holocausto's "Campo de Exterminio", Sextrash's "Sexual Carnage", Mutilator's "Immortal Force", and Psychic Possessor's "Toxin Diffusion".

I'm not sure what you've heard from them but their production varies pretty significantly from album to album. Nuclear Proliferation has a pretty typical BM production. The End has a lot of low end though, and sounds quite impressive in my car when the subwoofers get to knocking. I usually don't suggest it for first time listeners though, as the album opens with back to back 10 minute songs. If you already know you dig their style you'd probably really enjoy it though.

Another recent discovery is Chainsaw (Chl). This is another one-man band who plays purely first wave BM, which of course means its thrashy as fuck. Pretty much every song is about satan. This guy plays at a ridiculously frantic pace though and hardly ever lets up. Sounds very reminiscent of the early german thrash scene, reminds of a more violent Sodom. Clocking in at 27 minutes, "The Announcement" is a fast and furious black/thrash ride. This one seems to be pretty fucking obscure though. I was never able to find any samples or downloads online, but I was so confident from the band picture/album cover/song titles that I ordered it anyways. You can also pick this one up for 5 bucks at NWN! Productions.

Hehe, yeah, he's fast, I think he's on thrashmageddon, but a couple of bands on your list aren't on Tmag either.

Lol, Crepuscular 'ol pal, where are you getting this music so fast?

Oh, I think I listened to Abigail a few months ago, it annoyed me a lot.

And I have Sarcofago's Hate.... are those progged drums?

I've never listened to this album, but from what I've read I believe the drums are programmed. When it comes to Sarcofago I only listen to the first three. I actually think Laws of Scourge is pretty fucking underrated. Its not nearly as "evil" and beautifully sloppy sounding as I.N.R.I but it thrashes like a mother fucker.