Welcome man & no problem at all! Also, that Euphoria song is unbelievably awesome.


I'm waiting with you guys on this

Hey guys check this out:

Teleport - Ascendance EP
https://teleport1.bandcamp.com/

Sci-fi themed kinda' prog/tech blackened thrash in the vein of Vektor.

Got another killer here:

High Command - The Secartha Demos
https://highcommand.bandcamp.com/album/ ... rtha-demos

Raw vocals, heavy bass presence & Slayer-esque riffing

When you said "Slayer-esque" I immediately had an album come to mind that I don't believe I've ever seen mentioned here, and sure enough, after doing a search of several of their albums the only mentions I see are mostly in the classifieds and The Tavern. So here it is. Slayer worship for those who can't get enough.

Nuclear - Formula For Anarchy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWocVt-bnWU

Sometimes it feels like I'm talking to myself on this thread. Seems like nobody cares for thrash here

I'll gladly take that since Slayer has clearly forgotten how to Slayer, thanks.

Busy with the crossover thrash you know?
No time for thrash metal!

Lobotomia


I refuse to believe the crossover is over
But in reality it really is

Speaking of crossover, what the fuck is it exactly?
SOD, DRI, Suicidal Tendencies are considered some sort of crossover legends (pretty sure missing a lot of bands that could qualify), that much I know. Is it just punky thrash or is there more to it? I've always heard the term but I never fully understood it.

Yeah, that's it basically. Punky thrash. Where the line is blurred more or less. And the name comes from DRI's 1987 album Crossover, a fine specimen.

My favorites are ...

English Dogs - Where Legend Began

and Crumbsuckers - Beast On My Back


As far as the thrash thread seeing no action, well, I can only say I love good thrash, but most of today's thrash is not interesting or innovative and I think it's getting worse every year. I'd love it if people could point out some stuff that was as ear-opening and original as hearing MOP, Sepultura's Arise, or Reign In Blood for the first time. Something recent that could blow me away, like Warfect's Exoneration Denied or Sylosis' Conclusion of an Age, but realistically, lately I only find a couple of albums per year worth talking about. I find it amazing that most of the "Best Thrash of 2016" lists are full of new, and far from their best, albums from old bands. I think that says a lot about the state of thrash.

Crossover thrash is d-beat hardcore/punk (80's) mixed with Thrash.

Kazjurol - Messenger of Death
https://youtu.be/ZlsWb2IPwEY?t=383
The Krixhjälters - Evilution (album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLq0LiaIBwU
Metal Duck - Auto Ducko Destructo Mondo (album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWZXeQta8qE
Heibel - Poor Dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP-lawEXdNw
D.F.C. - Mundo Canibal
https://youtu.be/PHhViASODOU?t=59
Impulse Manslaughter - Sedation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_rNoTPtH0k

D.F.C. is the only recent crossover band i know of except for P.R.E.S.T.O.? and Power Trip, but Power trip is pretty much doing what Cro-Mags did. (There was also an old US Hardcore band called Powertrip)
This is Cro-Mags in 1989 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvwDKSQrH_M

Crossover can be very fast too!
Spazztic Blurr - Fuck Yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bhysG425rA
Wehrmacht - The Wehrmacht
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tzf1iKUpdk
Cryptic Slaughter - Rage To Kill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUbf9YPK3qc

I guess Vegan Reich could be considered a crossover band too (sxe hardcore) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be_Yd9VjclA
Battalions of Saints aswell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqmyLtFQcYQ (This was released in 1982)

It is Thrash (metal) the punk way. I think most crossover bands started out as punk/hardcore bands, at least all the bands i have mentioned here.
Nuclear Blast Records used to release tons of quality Crossover in the 80's/90's. Impulse Manslaughter, Condemned?, Rostok Vampires, Cancerous Growth and so on. After that they turned into... from my point of view.

I hope some of you find some of these to be not that bad. And if anyone is sitting on more crossover, list that shit!

Vektor (pretty obvious but still)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMCsv-z ... ogyOfDeath

Euphoria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTWWCSS ... ohnnykrult

Teleport
http://teleport1.bandcamp.com/

Ripper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZhiL3r ... cioVergara

Crisix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYgMcV2 ... PunxAttack

Hemotoxin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zESBHog ... AxeRecords

Desaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgtvwPN ... avesoftime

Destroyer 666
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1XkzzI ... avesoftime
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As usual, good shit tt.

Also check out:
Danny Trejo | HC/Thrash
https://dannytrejohc.bandcamp.com/album ... tinction-2

English Dogs | Speed/Thrash played by a punk band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgsvboA ... nel=Ozkurl

Heard English Dogs before, they are after all veterans. Not sure i've heard that album. Thanks!
That Danny Trejo was just awful, too poppy/emo hehe.

I've heard all of those, except Euphoria, which is very good, but the recording of the vocals is terrible (went to bandcamp to hear a good copy). I guess they're going for some kind of black metal vibe ... and I hate black metal vocals. Some of the others are good, but nothing makes my socks go up and down.

I'm not saying there aren't good ones coming out, just that there are few that interest me enough to buy or talk about them. Most are the same ol' galloping rhythm that I'm just sick of unless it's done in a ridiculously tight or different way. I think I've only bought five thrash albums this year.

Nocturnal Fear - Excessive Cruelty
Lethal Outcome - Divide and Rule
Warfect - Scavengers
Just One Fix - Let Them Hate So Long As They Fear
Condition Critical - Extermination Plan

None are iconic (although Warfect and Nocturnal Fear are very good), but were good enough that I'll play them every once in a while.

I'm having the same trouble with death metal, so maybe the genres are changing and I'm just being left behind, but I just don't see the number of excellent releases like I was seeing even a few years ago.

Try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0xfktSdv8

Spanish thrash that incorporates stuff from left and right. Think of it as a Metallica center that goes out and encompasses stuff from Destruction or Sadus on the one hand and Helloween or Satriani(!) on the other and Coroner in between. Great mix, even if at first it feels a bit disjointed or messy as far as the songwriting goes. It really smooths out with some listens. Definitely my favorite spanish metal album and definitely one of my favorite neo-thrash albums. They have just released their second one but the one song I heard has moved towards a more modern, groovier direction and that put me off.

Try Disease or Pluralized Chaos for the frenized thrash stuff, Collateral Damage for the Metallica reference, Catalepsy for the speed metal, Assassin Introspection for the Coroner reference and Path of Life for the magnum opus of the album. In the Wings of the Night is the odd one out, a great hard n' heavy tune.

Nekromantheon:
Not as exciting as Reign in Blood for sure but this is a fine, FINE specimen of Slayer-esque thrash of the 1983-86 era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-qlJQYU8Qs

That link has been removed, however I didn't think it would be too hard to find if I searched for "Pluralized Chaos", so I'm assuming the band is Trallery. It's good. I understand what you mean about kind of being in the middle of all the old school stuff, and even Satriani. It's weakness is vocals, and at first I thought production too, but I went to the bandcamp version, which is much better than the YouTube version and the production is OK. Yes, I'm somewhat picky about production, but it's not a deal-breaker unless it's raw. I'll have to listen to the whole thing, but of the few songs I sampled it has definite possibilities. Good pick.


With all the nekro-this and necro-that band names I must have missed this one. Yes, you're on the money with the 83-86 Slayer reference. I like it. Since Slayer doesn't do Slayer well anymore at least there are a few bands that do.

Thanks

BTW, since Metallica doesn't do Metallica well anymore either, when I want to hear old school Metallica, I go straight for Evile's Five Serpent's Teeth.

Speaking of Metallica and Slayer, by their second and third albums three of the Big Four had started turning away from what most of us now recognize as "thrash", and which the vast majority of today's thrash bands play on EVERY damn song. I'm thinking people today would probably lump those songs under groove or heavy metal. Songs like For Whom the Bell Tolls, South of Heaven and Peace Sells don't sound anything like Trapped Under Ice, Fight Fire With Fire or Praise of Death. That's what I'd like to see ... a little more variety. And when it comes to romping, galloping thrash, IMO there's nothing that sets it off more than some chunky rhythms interspersed to break up the speed. It makes the song heavier and makes the speed stand out more. Think Exhorder's Desecrator, which I still think is one of the heaviest songs ever made in any genre. That's why I like Warfect's Exoneration Denied so much. Not only are they ridiculously tight when speedy, they break it up with some chunky rhythms, like in the song Drone Wars. Unhoped also does this in some of their songs.

Huh, that link has been online since 2013, that's strange.

I had the exact same comments the first time around about the vocals. All I can say is that it is an album that needs a few spins. I now absolutely love it. It is the album you're talking about further down, with the rich dynamics and changes of pace. If you like solos, listen to the one in White Shadow, beautiful stuff.


You're welcome! I can relate to your comments about new thrash bands. I gave you my two favorites (after Vektor). The cool thing about Nekromantheon is that they have plenty of other influences in their songwriting, you'll even hear a sped-up version of Seek and Destroy's riff on Blood Wisdom (that song rules).



I like Evile, very likeable dudes too but I was disappointed to hear that they tried even more to sound like AJFA Metallica instead of finding their own sound.

I'll be checking Warfect and Unhoped.

Speaking of nice rhythms braking up the speed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xduC3sUcR7A

Man everthing about this is killer. That vocalist might be the most interesting I've ever heard in thrash. Thanks!

Cool! Sabbat is the best UK thrash band imo. And of course I love Skyclad to bits and think Martin Walkyier is one of the best lyricists in metal. (the) Andy Sneap on guitar.

I recommend this as your next stop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cceP_fYo4Vw

These dudes should/could have been big, underrated stuff for sure. I always thought there was only one Sabbat (that crazy Japanese black/thrash band), maybe that's why I never found them.

Yeah, their first two albums are pretty fantastic and the way Martin spits the lyrics (esp. on that song, endless, unstoppable!) is just perfect. Third album, without Martin is shit.

I had the extreme pleasure of seeing the first Return to the Sabbat reunion gig at Bloodstock 2001, that was FUCKING EXCELLENT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSwh79PpdMo

Listening to Warfect, pretty solid stuff, excellent riffage and indeed good dynamics. Savaged by Wolves is awesome! I know the uploader too, should have bumped into them before!

I've owned Sabbat's albums for a loooong time. Unique guitar sound and song structures. Andy Sneap was well respected by the other bands of their time, but for some reason Sabbat didn't reach mass appeal.

Infernal Slaughter - Spilling Blood and Hate (2015)

From Chile, thrash/deathrash, rabid, filthy, fast, old school stuff. Vocals have a slight Connely (Nuclear Assault) sound to them. Very good shit, if you like that sort of thing. A friend of mine described it as a mix between Pleasure ot Kill and Awakening. It's not a bad description.

Chile definitely has a very good underground scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG7LvGGPphU

Listened to Vektor again after getting somewhat overwhelmed on the first listen...motherfuck, the hype is real & well deserved for once.
Not to be pretentious fanboy but Vektor have transcended thrash metal with this one imo. Great stuff.

Aggressive Perfector - Satan's Heavy Metal (Demo 2016)
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Agg ... 3540419787

Masterful bled of 80s heavy/speed/thrash metal awesomeness. Fun as fuck indeed!
Check it out:

Speaking of Hell Awaits Slayer-esque ...


Funny, I have their previous album and it doesn't sound nearly as Slayer-ish.

Panikk release new teaser of upcoming album "Discarded Existence" sounds nice! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7FG-ulftKA

Holy shit, this is good.

Haven't seen much (if any) praise for the latest Ghoul album on this forum.

Apart from thrash there is death metal, grindcore & crossover here. The campy samples & the overall aesthetic just adds to the enjoyment. Check it out if you haven't already.

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Also, while looking around I stumbled on this violin cover of Raining Blood. Sounds twice as 'evil' as the original song.

Τhe Ghoul album is great, it's probably making my list this year. Fucking love that intro (looked it up, it's from a movie about Armin, the african dictator) and Bringer of War is smashing.

Violin?! Phffft! How 'bout some hillbilly banjo Slayer ...

I found a "illegal" website where you can download albums. You can sort by genre. So when looking for thrash i look usually to the way the name is written. When i see a font that reminds me of the repka style thrash and the earlier thrash i listen to the album. I discovered lots of nice NWOTHM bands. Exarsis, Reign of Fury? Distillator, Zombie attack, Envirusment and go on...

That's why i'm wondering why the people now seems to dislike the so called new thrash bands? What are they doing wrong compared to "old thrash" bands? Because you heard you it all before? WHo cares? I mean if the music is good and makes you wanna mosh around, who cares if you already heard it before? Isn't it the first law of music? It has to make you feel good, enjoy yourself, have fun?

Oh: ABout crossover: Evil Army, Insanity alert, Iron reagan, Birth A.D.

Personally, I don't mind bands playing retro. But I have a serious problem with bands that lack character and you can't even tell them apart from other (equally generic) bands. The main culprit is the vocals, god, what a sad state of affairs (this goes for a lot of the growlers ala Anselmo, fucking hell) but it's also about the conscious effort to stay within the comfort zone of a specific sub-genre of thrash.

At the end of the day though, if they write killer tunes, I'm in. Exarsis is one of the good ones, good live show too. Envirusment - do you mean Chronosphere? Envirusment was the title of their debut. Good band as well but I prefer their second one, Embracing Oblivion, also has a song feat. Josh Christian of Toxik.

Well, I play in a thrash band (I don't like the term "retro thrash" or "neo-thrash" because no one says that about other metal genres).

I wish there were more new thrash bands like Immaculate, Space Eater, Voight Kampf, and Exocosm.

I'm burnt out on all the wanna-be Kreator/Slayer-ish modern thrash bands.

There's so much talk about dissonant black metal and dissonant death metal these days, what's some good dissonant thrash metal? Preferably from before the turn of the century, preferably death/thrash or tech thrash, preferably not Voivod or similar to Voivod.

Hellwitch have some parts that fit quite well, but I wonder what more there is in that direction.

Man, I hope modern thrash takes this direction

Also, Hellwitch is interesting. Not getting all of it but it kills regardless.

That Teleport EP linked (twice) up-page sort of falls into the "dissonant thrash" category; some of it sounds like a mashup of Coroner and Deathspell Omega, though a) it never really fully integrates everything, and b) it obviously isn't anywhere near the quality of those two bands. Still it's one of the more interesting EPs I've heard this year. Pretty sure I found it via the 2016 Worthwhile Albums thread, actually.
https://teleport1.bandcamp.com/

edit: somehow I missed the "before the turn of the century" part anyway

I've been reppin'/reccing (?) this band so hard since I first found about them. This, Vektor, Black Fast & Euphoria have rekindled my interest in modern thrash.

I saw it mentioned on here a couple of times (likely by you) and checked it out a few weeks ago. Really cool stuff. Same thing with Euphoria. I think Vektor and Black Fast are definitely the best bands in this style (though Vektor is obviously considerably different from everyone else, no matter how much others try to copy them), but there's a lot of great thrash coming out in this vein.