For anyone wondering about Torture's plans I was talking to Nick Nielsen, the guitarist yesterday and he told me...

I find it highly disturbing for the guy who sang on what I consider to be the most brutal thrash album ever to be an honest family man. This is just...wow. Ya know?

Goddamnit damnit fuck. Why is it every time I'm not in California, they play a gig there.

For those wondering about black/thrash (from that other, newer thread), one that comes to mind is Devastator.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=18620

That one, actually. There are like 6 of them heh.

I own their album The End and it's pretty cool. Really intense, but noticably more black metal than thrash.

Its nice to know at least one other person digs this band. I own all of their full-lengths except "Morbid Force" and you're definitely right about The End, it's the most BM-oriented out of all of them. Strange that it also seems to have the most low-end (out of the three I own, anyways). I think Nuclear Proliferation is probably the most accessible record they've made and the best starting point for people trying to get into Devastator. The End is fucking amazing in my opinion, but those first two song lengths probably tend to scare away the casual thrash listener.

Hmm, looks like my question must have gotten buried in the middle of a retro thrash discussion. But anyways:

does any one here regard motorhead as thrash metal?

Not me.

why not? i would definitely say they were at least the main inspiration of many thrash bands. state your reasons.

A huge influence, yes, but the music is heavy/speed metal.

you make a very valid point, i don't wanna sound like an idiot but please elaborate on just exactly what speed metal is.

Fast heavy metal, maybe?

There is actually a thread on it.

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... hp?t=38724

ok, thanks i will definitely check that out. i still think motorhead is pretty thrashy, especially in their later stuff like inferno, what bands would you reccomend?

Recommend? Thrash?

Dark Angel, Morbid Saint, and Demolition Hammer are my favourite bands.

You could just skim through this thread and check bands out, if you don't have any specific request.

ok, ill take a look.

Lee joined Exodus because he is/was an Exodus fanboy, essentially. He doesn't even write any material for them. Maybe a few guitar lines here and there, like the intro to Children Of A Worthless God, and some solos, but that's it. He joined Exodus, mainly because of how good of a friend he is with Gary, and how he feels about the album Bonded By Blood, in particular. Imagine being able to join your favorite band. That's how it was for him...

He has openly stated he hates downtuning and shit. However, it's Gary's band, so he can't do much about it.

So, it's kinda like the whole "Tim Owens in Priest" thingy again. Both Exodus and Priest got fantastic new members but wrote utter shit for two albums and neither Owens or Altus was involved in the writing process. I guess you can't blame a guy for wanting to join his favorite band.

Hey I'm looking for some good middle late 80's raw brazilian thrash/death/black metal along the lines of sacrofago, Vulcano, and holucsto can anyone recemmend anything? i know that its a pretty sepcific (sp?) request but I've fallen in love with sacrofagos INRI album and i've come here to beg for more stuff like it

Most of the 80's output on Cogumelo records was in the same vein as the records you mentioned. You can login and do a search on the archives for "Cogumelo" under labels and get a big fuckoff list of bands to look into.

More specifically I'd check out Mutilator (Bra), Psychic Possessor (Bra), and Attomica (Bra). If you're interested in a newer band that SOUNDS like the old 80's death/black/thrash movement look into Anal Vomit. I prefer their second album, but they're both great.

edit: One of the users here put together an INCREDIBLY comprehensive list of Cogumelo releases. If you comb through this you will find some great albums that have been long buried.

http://www.geocities.com/peterott/labels.html#F1

edit again: I can't believe I forgot Sextrash. Definitely get "Sexual Carnage" featuring D.D. Crazy.

Here are some more Brazilian releases in the same vein.
MX - Simoniacal
Chakal - Abominable Anno Domini
Mutilator - Immortal Force

Some non Brazillian releases in a similar vein are:
Schizo - Main Frame
Patecabra - El Horror

could someone point me in the direction of some great thrash in the vein of witchery, with lyrical topics that exclusively involve various dark subjects: satan, evil, zombies, shadows, skeletons, hordes of undead warriors, torturing small children, blahde fucking blah

Ok, After thinking about it for a while, I decided I'd probably get more results if I put this in here.

Could you recommend me bands that sound anything like Absu, especially their newer material (Tara)?

I really like their take on the black/thrash style, but I can't seem to find too many other bands that have a similar playing style. Any recommendations you could give me would be much appreciated.

I'm looking for something along the lines of Eternal Nightmare and The Ultra-Violence. Good, fast thrash with a bit of melody added to it, but not enough melody to make it any less brutal. Also, vocals like Vio-Lence's singer is a big plus.

This should be of some help.
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 75&start=0

You probably know this band, but try Overkill. Great riffs, and "melodic." The vocals aren't actually like Vio-lence's, but they're similar in that Blitz and Killian are both very unique.

Edit: Never mind... follow Visionary's link.

i know it's pretty generic, but i like sepultura quite a bit.

Bump.

does anyone have any tips for playing fingerstyle thrash bass?

You may enjoy the "For the Musicians" board.

thanks people for all your help I plan on sticking around for a while this is an awesome forum

I'm a fingerstyle thrash bassist (two fingers) and I can tell you this: your picking hand is going to suffer. A lot. Because of insane speeds you'll need to develop stamina. At any given moment when you're not playing the bass, run your fingers against an object to practice. If you do it a lot this really helps. As for the other hand, it will need to practice specifically on patters that are frequent. Examples:

8-6-5 or 8-7-5. You'll be amazed to find out how much those two runs are used. You can "cheat" on the fast parts if you're having difficulties (doing half the amount of notes in a tremolo riff) but you can't cheat with your other hand ... so make sure both are strong.

Oh and don't forget to warm up. Ever. Anyway, you'll probably find more help in the musicians forum.

thanks alot for the help, i will definitely try these things out in the future.

If you're doing finger style then you should definitely be playing on three or more fingers. As DGDYP said, you're gonna need stamina, and playing with three fingers is much less tiring then playing with two.

Also, practice chromatic patterns (1-2-3-4-2-3-4-5-etc..) to really get used to moving around with your left hand (or right hand if you're a lefty) and making small jumps easily.

I do the running my fingers across any surface whenever I'm sitting down somewhere and my mom always yells at me to shut up

Does anybody know when Get Thrashed is coming out? It looks promising. Also, when IS the new Heathen coming out?

I think Get Thrashed came out already.

thank you as well, when you say 3 fingers do you mean alternating like(1-2-3-2-1-2-3) or (1-2-3-1-2-3)? and what would be a good thing for a novice to learn? thanks again.

So, I revisisted Vendetta (Ger) recently ... holy fuckle berries. These guys are downright insane. My net was down for awhile so I couldn't look their information up, but I wouldn't have guessed they came out of Germany, then again I think it'd be impossible to guess either way. There's so many different influences it's insane and the guitar work is just fucking crazy.

Don't do what I did and let them get thrown in a pile of other random stuff for so long, damn they're good.

Yup, I <3 Go and Live...Stay and Die!

So, I'm always up for more retro-thrash bands, fucking love this movement. I have so far:

Warbringer
Fueled by Fire
Avenger of Blood
Merciless Death
Nocturnal Breed
Dekapitator
Rumpelstiltskin Grinder
Ares Kingdom
Bonded by Blood
Evile
Fastkill
Municipal Waste
Skeletonwitch
Blood Tsunami
Lich King
Toxic Holocaust
and most importantly Violator...

So what I ask you fellow thrashers, is there any other retro-thrash that I am missing that is essential?

Gama Bomb!!

The newest album Citizen Brain is one of the best retro thrash albums for sure.

Oh, and you're missing Sauron, too. Dirty raw black/thrash.