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colin040
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:18 am 
 

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I'm listening to that Prodigy/Oracle demo right now. Holy shit is this good. The production's not the best but it's a demo....that's an hour long. lol The music is very USPM with a little prog in there and the vocalist reminds me of Lizzy Borden.


You're welcome man. Glad you dig them.

I've been revisiting some Anthem albums again. No Smoke Without Fire is my favorite of them so far but their other albums that I've heard seem to be top-notch material, too. :headbang:

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:32 am 
 

They have a new album out this month too, so I think that's a good time for me to start tackling their discography (what are they up to, 16 CDs now?)

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:26 pm 
 

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What are some good, catchy, falsetto-y, heavy, fast paced, speed metal anthems? I need more to annoyingly hum to my self.
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Phantom's 'Cyberchrist.' Every song, seriously, amazing album. It's like Painkiller, except it doesn't suck after the first track.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:30 pm 
 

Yeah, not to mention their vocalist who sang on their 1988-1992 material is back in the band.

Another band I've been checking out recently is Saber Tiger. They know how to craft melodic, yet somewhat thick tunes without becoming sappy.




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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:21 pm 
 

Jophelerx wrote:
Abethedemon wrote:
What are some good, catchy, falsetto-y, heavy, fast paced, speed metal anthems? I need more to annoyingly hum to my self.
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Phantom's 'Cyberchrist.' Every song, seriously, amazing album. It's like Painkiller, except it doesn't suck after the first track.

I heard well of soul. Pretty damn good stuff

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:42 pm 
 

Jophelerx wrote:
It's like Painkiller, except it doesn't suck after the first track.


The title track is the best song, but what do you not like about the rest of the album? I feel like almost every song on there is at least good, and I don't think they've done a song since that I'd take over a Nightcrawler or All Guns Blazing.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:22 pm 
 

I seriously have no idea how a person could listen to an album like Cyberchrist and think that the average song on it comes close to a Touch of Evil or a One Shot a Glory.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:23 pm 
 

Except for the title track, the songwriting on Painkiller isn't very good, but the production and the performances are stellar. "One Shot at Glory" is pretty mediocre, and if it were played by different band with an average production, nobody would give a shit about it. Obviously production and performance are important, but after years and years of listening to this stuff, it's the songwriting that sticks with me the most. Painkiller's doesn't. Cyberchrist's does.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:01 pm 
 

Going a little bit off topic but I know there are quite a few Manilla Road fans here and I didn't think this justified a new thread.

I like editing audio/video & juxtaposing them together. I thought "The Riddle Master" would fit well with the sphinx gate scene from The NeverEnding Story. So I put them together. I was actually surprised at how well they fit. I only made a few cuts towards the end to make it fit the length of the song.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:57 pm 
 

failsafeman wrote:
Except for the title track, the songwriting on Painkiller isn't very good, but the production and the performances are stellar. "One Shot at Glory" is pretty mediocre, and if it were played by different band with an average production, nobody would give a shit about it. Obviously production and performance are important, but after years and years of listening to this stuff, it's the songwriting that sticks with me the most. Painkiller's doesn't. Cyberchrist's does.


Are you talking about the lyrics or the structures and pacing?

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Mysticaloldbard
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:08 pm 
 

Speaking of Manilla Road, this was posted on their FB page a couple days ago:
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A little update for you! The new album is now mixed and mastered, the front cover painting is also done. Next step will be the booklet and then we can give everything to our record company. Everybody involved in Manilla Road is agreeing that the new album is another step forward after "Mysterium", also soundwise. The music itself? 100% Manilla Road. And there will be a big surprise too.... That´s all for now.
The "Open The Gates" ReRelease is ready too - remastered, added bonus songs, 90% of the booklet... Now the digipak needs to be designed and we can give this one to our record company too.

I may get that Open the Gates reissue. I already have the Crystal Logic and Invasion/Metal reissues and I was pleased with the liner notes and bonus tracks.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:50 am 
 

failsafeman wrote:
Except for the title track, the songwriting on Painkiller isn't very good, but the production and the performances are stellar. "One Shot at Glory" is pretty mediocre, and if it were played by different band with an average production, nobody would give a shit about it. Obviously production and performance are important, but after years and years of listening to this stuff, it's the songwriting that sticks with me the most. Painkiller's doesn't. Cyberchrist's does.


What in particular about the songwriting? Neither is exactly Fates Warning-tier complexity nor will you find instantly-catchy hooks like on a British Steel. I guess it could be argued that Cyberchrist is more punctual, but they're pretty standard songs. Performance is at least 80% of that album.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:45 am 
 

HamburgerBoy wrote:
I seriously have no idea how a person could listen to an album like Cyberchrist and think that the average song on it comes close to a Touch of Evil or a One Shot a Glory.


Me neither.

I suspect the grandiose claims about it being miles better than Painkiller are mostly in order to drive the point that Cyberchrist deserves a listen because it does.

The assertion that it features superior songwriting is bullshit but it made me notice the band and try the album and I'm grateful for that. It's a really nice album and I can't stop listening to this right now.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:22 am 
 

Shucks, I thought you guys were talking about the Vicious Rumors album until I noticed Jophelerx's post. I listened to Phantom a looong time ago but I had just about forgotten they existed. I'm jogging my memory with a couple tracks on YouTube right now and man, I need to get my hands on Cyberchrist. Looks like there's a cheap reissue out.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:26 am 
 

Mysticaloldbard wrote:
Speaking of Manilla Road, this was posted on their FB page a couple days ago:
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A little update for you! The new album is now mixed and mastered, the front cover painting is also done. Next step will be the booklet and then we can give everything to our record company. Everybody involved in Manilla Road is agreeing that the new album is another step forward after "Mysterium", also soundwise. The music itself? 100% Manilla Road. And there will be a big surprise too.... That´s all for now.
The "Open The Gates" ReRelease is ready too - remastered, added bonus songs, 90% of the booklet... Now the digipak needs to be designed and we can give this one to our record company too.

I may get that Open the Gates reissue. I already have the Crystal Logic and Invasion/Metal reissues and I was pleased with the liner notes and bonus tracks.


What happened to the reissue of Out of the Abyss? Sunk without a trace, it seems.

Also, the best track on Painkiller is 'Between the Hammer and the Anvil'. Whereas the rest is dumb and emotionally empty, 'Between the Hammer...' manages to be emotionally intense and has a lot more in common with classic Priest. Great solo, too, much better than the rest of the album. But yeah, I'm not much of a Painkiller fan. Mid-life-crisis-viagra-metal. That said, Udo's take on that sound is pretty good:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:51 am 
 

The thing about Painkiller to me is that tries way too hard to impress. ''Between the Hammer and the Anvil'' sounds a lot more retained which is why I only like that track of the album nowadays. Not really a fan of the guitar tone either.

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StainedClass95 wrote:
failsafeman wrote:
Except for the title track, the songwriting on Painkiller isn't very good, but the production and the performances are stellar. "One Shot at Glory" is pretty mediocre, and if it were played by different band with an average production, nobody would give a shit about it. Obviously production and performance are important, but after years and years of listening to this stuff, it's the songwriting that sticks with me the most. Painkiller's doesn't. Cyberchrist's does.

Are you talking about the lyrics or the structures and pacing?

All of it. I wrote full-length reviews for both albums - if you guys want to know more about my opinions, just read those.

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I suspect the grandiose claims about it being miles better than Painkiller are mostly in order to drive the point that Cyberchrist deserves a listen because it does.

Suspect whatever you like. I meant what I said without any kind of ridiculous ulterior motive and stand by my opinions. I don't think Painkiller is a shitty album or anything, just not very good and not at all deserving of the ridiculous amounts of praise it gets. And I say that as a huge Judas Priest fan - out of Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and the other huge name metal bands, Priest are easily my favorite - but definitely not because of Painkiller.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:46 pm 
 

I'd say Ram it Down and Painkiller are like Manowar albums to me. In the midst of all that filler, there are a few cool tracks. Take them out and make a custom mix and you've got a good set of tracks. On their own though, the highest I'd probably give them would be like a 70%.

If we're talking quality though, Defenders of the Faith easily for me. Nonstop amazingness from start to finish.

Screaming for Vengeance... sucks? Tons of radio stuff and the "hits". I've never got this one. Compared to the weirder classic stuff, or the tougher Defenders... it's just so damn tame.

Are those Manilla Road remasters/reissues good? Think I remember hearing that. All the sets I have of most of their stuff are pretty old rips so they might be dated now. But man whenever I get in Manilla Road moods, I just can't believe how insane they are. There's nobody like Mark, there's nothing comparable to 90% of their material and their library is massive, it's just hilarious... Manilla Road are Manilla Road. Unstoppable.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:23 pm 
 

I dig Screaming for Vengeance. It's not as consistent as it could have been, but it's pretty much a solid album nonetheless and features plenty of fun tunes. Defenders of the Faith and Ram it Down on the other hand both feature some great tunes but are really inconsistent. Take the best of both and you'd end up with a fantastic album.

I'd still have to revisit British Steel sometime but lately haven't been in a Judas Pries mood anymore.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:33 pm 
 

Iron Maiden have always been the "mood" band for me. Priest I can almost always jump into (well still need to give their 70's stuff a lot more attention). It's just funny that Maiden is a bit more my style with more technical flair, closer to USPM in some regards, and yeah. But it's just so rare that I think "Hey I'll listen to Maiden now!" Always amusing how there's so many people out there that ONLY listen to Priest, Sabbath, Maiden, Metallica, etc and that's it. Not for me.

I'd probably take Vicious Rumors' Digital Dictator over Maiden anyday. Or Helstar! Rivera is da man, he's gotta be like top 5 for me probably. Might say his best performance is with Destiny's End honestly, he freaking rocks there. Always in the mood for his stuff.

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I'm the opposite of some of you guys - Priest is my least favorite of those big bands, I always preferred Maiden, Sabbath and even Motorhead.
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It took me years to understand Defenders and Screaming. Early on I just couldn't reconcile them in the context of the 70s run that I would say is the pinnacle of heavy metal music. It just felt so dumbed down and worse than that, softer. I could never figure out how they managed to transition into this "metal gods" image while making music that sounded significantly less heavy to me. I've said some really dumb things here regarding those albums, in the days before I came to understand them. Pretty sure I called Warlock heavier once. I know I've issued formal apologies since then, like what the honest fuck was wrong with me?

Screaming for Vengeance is perfect. Defenders of the Faith is perfect. These albums are made for the open road. I almost never listen to them in my home but they are staples in the ride. Screaming for Vengeance is a bit more rocking and "open" but they made a great choice pairing that up with a BURNING guitar tone, and that intro...The Hellion makes me want to lose my shit before anything even happens. I genuinely love the big silly catchy jams as much as the speed sprinkled throughout. Bloodstone gets stuck in my head for days. I even love You've Got Another Thing Comin'. Once this album clicked for me it clicked so hard. I adore it.

Defenders of the Faith is a mystery to me. How did I think this sounded soft? It goes so fucking hard. That middle section to Love Bites doesn't get enough praise. The song is "good" until that hits and then it becomes something else entirely, a total motherfucker. Another perfect production job for the style they were writing, the whole thing is scathing.

These albums were brought to you by confidence and cocaine. They get over on big hooks and bigger swagger.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:08 pm 
 

Basically, what failsafeman said. I did not call Painkiller lame because I wanted to make Cyberchrist look good in comparison, I called Painkiller lame because it *is* lame. There's very little substance or cool riffs in the album, and Halford and the production alone can't save it. It's just pretty boring. Cyberchrist, on the other hand, is full of catchy riff-monsters, and while the singer isn't Halford, he's not far off in terms of quality and charisma. So yes, I prefer Cyberchrist, and do not much like Painkiller.

That said, it's time I revisit 70s/80s Priest. I do so every so often, but it's usually pretty hit or miss for me. However, my tastes are constantly evolving and they're well respected so they deserve another chance. At the moment they are probably my least favorite of the big 3, but that could very well be subject to change.
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That Phantom singer seems wacky haha, in a good way.

Let's also not forget this...


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:38 pm 
 

Or what about Hell Bent for Leather? My opinion is that it could have one of their best albums, the high points of the album are unreachable. If only it didn't have songs like Evening Star or Take on the World :shivers:

And I always saw Judas Priest as the best metal band from the 70's, Maiden did better than Priest in the 80's though.
Oh, and Priest is the best band of the big ones for sure :-P
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Painkiller has always been and will always be an amazing album and anyone who disagrees in here are total flogs whose opinions can be swiftly ignored.

On that note, that Phantom album is really good and Eddie Green is on fire the entire way through. I still need to check out the other two albums although I don't think that Cyberchrist can be topped.
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I_Am_Vengeance wrote:
Painkiller has always been and will always be an amazing album and anyone who disagrees in here are total flogs whose opinions can be swiftly ignored.

On that note, that Phantom album is really good and Eddie Green is on fire the entire way through. I still need to check out the other two albums although I don't think that Cyberchrist can be topped.


Agree with you on Painkiller.

I've listened to Dead or Alive today. It's definitely not as strong as Cyberchrist but it's got some charm. It's strongly Judas Priest-influenced, the early 80s stuff. Like Priest's music from that period, it ranges from silly to rocking tracks to more interesting classic metal. There are other slight US metal influences.

I'm not done with the eponymous album yet but it sounds definitely more eclectic so far. They let go of the Priest worshiping on that one. Phantom try more things here but it doesn't grab me as much as the other two.

The band is solid overall and Falcon Eddie Green is a really good singer. I'm curious why I never heard about these guys and it doesn't look like they did anything else since. No internet presence for Phantom either which is a shame. There are many much less deserving bands being revived these days.
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Xeogred wrote:
Are those Manilla Road remasters/reissues good?

I think they were worth the money. If you don't already have Crystal Logic or Invasion/Metal in your collection then I highly suggest getting the new reissues. As for myself, I had them on vinyl but was lacking CD copies.

They're in some nice-looking digipaks with hefty booklets full of old photos, concert fliers, and some new interviews concerning the respective albums. The remastered albums (the meat of the reissues) sound superb. They also come with a handful of bonus tracks (Crystal has 15 songs, while Metal Invasion only has 8) but they range in sound quality. Metal Invasion by far has the more rougher recordings of the two, seeing as they're older. Crystal has a wealth of rehearsals and tracks with rough/alternative mixes, and there's even a couple Mark of the Beast tracks, which actually sound better than the album versions. Metal Invasion has mostly live tracks (there's a recording of Queen of the Black Coast from 2011 and Mark sounds hoarse as fuck. He might've been in pain but it sounds awesome.), except for a couple early rehearsals and one unreleased song. Crystal likewise has one unreleased song. I was a little disappointed there weren't more new songs on the reissues, but from what I understand most of these bonus tracks were unearthed from Mark Shelton's and Rick Fisher's storage, and their tapes weren't in the best conditions.

I found this cool trailer for the Metal Invasion reissue, check it out. I tried finding one for Crystal Logic, but all I saw was this lame one in German. Oh well... Here it is. There are also these pictures I got off Manilla Road FB page if you want a visual of the digipaks:
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And the details for Crystal Logic had a really good write-up by Neudi:
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It´s Neudi writing. Today I got copies of the final 2CD from Golden Core/ZYX for the band and the people involved in that reissue project. The package looks amazing and yes, the black sticker is not on the digipack but on the cellophan around it!! Thanks to Alexander von Wieding for the digibook (and final booklet changes) and to Michaela Widmayer for the booklet design - both is KILLER! The booklet has 24 pages and contains tons of photos, memorablia, details about ever CL-release since the original LP in 1983 and other really "nerdy" details...of course an in-depth interview with mark Shelton and Rick Fisher about CL and the bonus tracks.
The "main program", the Crystal Logic LP, sounds a little more powerful now. PROLOGUE and THE RAM were taken from a reel that contains a copy of the original mastertape. ZYX Studios did that transfer. Unfortunately only those two tracks were in a good condition. But especially THE RAM sounds better than ever.
And then the tons of bonus material. Three versions of FLAMING METAL SYSTEMS - the same recording but different mixes and intros. For real fans! Same with three CL-tracks from a cassette that Rick Fisher found at his house. Especially "Dreams of Eschaton" has a very interesting, totally different ending...be surprised! All those songs from cassettes sound pretty good for the age of those tapes. Some tiny little drop-outs on the left or the right channel, a good result for cassettes older than 30 years!!
CD 2 is the sensation for most fans I guess. TIME TRAP in a better sounding version than on "Mark of the Beast", an unreleased (and really long!) live-song from ca. 1981, several rehearsal versions of other Mark of the Beast-songs (one with a totally different beginning)...all in a soundquality equal to "After Midnight Live" and really brilliant sounding in the lower parts of the songs. Also not too bad for reels over 30 years old. Some literary fell to pieces during the transfer...
But it goes on. After 8 songs of old stuff comes a 2011 Liverecording of "Crystal Logic" in a great sound quality. Next two "bootleg items" but still sounding good: Flaming Metal Systems, live with Marta Gabriel (Crystal Viper) and the opening part of "Dreams of Eschaton" in a acoustic live-version (2013). As there were still a few minutes of disc space left, we have decided to add the coverversion of my ex-Band VIRON (Dreams of Eschaton) as a bonus of the bonus.
To me this package is exactly what I want to hold in my hand as a fan (what I still am, even I am the drummer since 2011). It was many weeks of hard work but it was worth every second!
PS: We have decided to release Crystal Logic before the Metal/Invasion double CD because of its 30th anniversary. Metal/Invasion is ready and we currently work on OPEN THE GATES.


If you've already got those albums in some form, then it's up to you to determine if the bonus material warrants getting them again. If you haven't, then I can't recommend them enough.
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Just found this today, its the guy from Bud Tribe with his brother & son. It sounds the same as Bud Tribe, worth checking out if you like them.

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Stone Dagger demo available for free download.

https://electricassaultrecords.bandcamp ... -jerusalem

Some of the best retro trad metal to come out in forever if you haven't heard it yet. From the Magic Circle dudes*. "For fans of Manilla Road, Dio, Cirith Ungol, early Manowar and Black Sabbath."

I wish the shirts weren't sold out except in S :(

*who you are also missing out on if you haven't heard. Awesome trad doom.
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Yo, as a fan of Bud Tribe, this is pretty choice shit right there. Definitely going on my gigantic list of recent albums I need to buy. Also, what the fuck is going on with that cover art? A bird man in chains standing next to stonehenge as a fucking B-52 flies out of a cloud? I'm confused and LOVING IT.
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Nahsil
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:19 pm 
 

Got my ticket for ProgPower 2015. Never been before, but since I'm an hour from Atlanta now and the lineup is pretty solid...

Friday:
Anathema (UK)
Falconer (Sweden) - last live performance ever!
Voyager (Australia) - fans pick the setlist
Morgana Lefay (Sweden)
Anubis Gate (Denmark)
Hibria (Brazil)

Saturday:
Angra (Brazil) - performing "Holy Land" in its entirety
Royal Hunt (Denmark/USA) - performing "Paradox" in its entirety
Riverside (Poland)
Dynazty (Sweden) - performing "Renatus" in its entirety
Persefone (Andorra)
Helker (Argentina)

Not sure about Saturday, I need to revisit some of those bands.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:19 am 
 

Oh, Helker are actually pretty cool. The rest...:gay:
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:59 am 
 

I'm pretty sure Paradox is the only Royal Hunt album anyone knows exists.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:39 am 
 

@Aaattaack, you asked for bands like early Iron Maiden. That's a tough one; I don't know of any bands that are really quite like Iron Maiden.

Let's start with the obvious ones. Have you checked out Bruce Dickinson's solo work? He has a number of excellent algorithms, and they share a certain similarity. Also Blaze Bayley.

If you're willing to interpret "like Iron Maiden" very broadly, the best recommendation I can think of is Bloodbound. They're not like Iron Maiden, but they share some characteristics.

If you want bands that imitate Iron Maiden and don't care too much about quality, Lick the Blade reminded me of Iron Maiden worship -- but much lower quality. You could also check out Clairvoyants and Cryonic Temple. But don't expect these to be of the same quality as Iron Maiden, or exactly like them.

Lastly, let me mention a few other bands that aren't like Iron Maiden, but that might interest you if you are new to power metal and looking more broadly. White Skull's album Public Glory, Secret Agony is under-appreciated and some very fun power metal, that might just appeal. (After I discovered Iron Maiden, I also had a lot of fun getting to know Stormwarrior, Savatage, particularly Hall of the Mountain King, Blind Guardian, particularly their first album, and Running Wild -- but they're not really much like Iron Maiden at all, so might not be what you're looking for, and you might already be familiar with them.)

I suspect none of these are exactly what you're looking for, but if you're looking for something just like Iron Maiden, it might not exist.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:34 am 
 

deadweight2 wrote:
Bloodbound.

The first Bloodbound sounds a lot like Maiden indeed. Their other albums does not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmnCNLq_p7Y

Oddly enough, their second album with Michael Bormann on vocals is my favourite. Odd since Urban Breed is one of my top 5 favourite singers, but he should sing in Tad Morose dammit!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:52 am 
 

I agree Tad Morose was his best music, but the new albums from Trail of Murder and Project Arcadia are actually his best vocal performances yet - if the music isn't as complex as old TM, the vocals have improved tenfold from already very admirable and great performances on those old albums.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:05 pm 
 

failsafeman wrote:
Oh, Helker are actually pretty cool. The rest...:gay:


What's wrong with with Morgana Lefay? Unless you're just talking about Saturday.

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