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The_Apex_of_Collapse
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:50 pm 
 
I think with some better production it would have helped the vocals quite a bit. From what I can gather it is a self released album so not bad if you look at it from that point of view.

Just wait for a band named after the Falx, or the rhomphaia, Barbarian tools of slaughter :headbang: Metalucifer should be on those bad boys anytime.
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iAmDisturbed
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:10 am 
 
Hsa anyone heard SKINFLINT, the Botswana heavy metal band.
Awesome stuff, like an African version of Iron Maiden. I was rather impressed. Also the lyrics are African folklore and myths.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTEtRNU5QNA
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Radagast
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:17 pm 
 
ANationalAcrobat wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMuqx6tlSWk&feature=youtu.be - what the hell is going on with Cloven Hoof? Apparently, this video was uploaded by their guitarist, too.

WARNING: Contains falsetto!

What was the content of that video? I never got a chance to go look at it before it went private.

This band does my head in. I don't get why Lee Payne seems to have this mental block that it either has to be Russ or some gargling modern rock singer, with no middle ground at all. There's plenty of singers out there that could do the old material justice, but the thought of hearing songs from Dominator or A Sultans Ransom with this Whelan guy singing them makes me feel unwell.
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ANationalAcrobat
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:27 pm 
 
It was basically Russ North as pissed as a newt, hitting random high notes (usually not while the band was playing), and stumbling around the stage... the band getting the crowd to give him a big cheer. It was kinda funny in a really depressing way. Then it ended with some mocking text saying "there can be only one".
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Radagast
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:41 pm 
 
Blimey, that's classy.

Oh well, I'll just sit tight for six months until Russ comes back again.
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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:38 pm 
 
Yeah, the video was definitely beyond the "funny" line. It was pathetic and Russ must really have a serious issue, but as we can all pretty much agree the most pathetic thing about it were the other band members or whoever the fuck posting it publicly thinking it was funny and good to share. If I got to see Cloven Hoof and that's the kind of performance I'd see, I would've been utterly pissed.
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colin040
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:43 pm 
 
Tad Morose aren't a great band in my opnion but they for sure wrote some amazing songs. I can't decide which is their best song, either ''Servant of the Bones'' which is straightforward riffy power metal or the semi epic ''The Dead and His Son''. I also love Urban Breeds vocals for sure. He's really got some a powerful voice.
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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:14 pm 
 
Yeah, him and Dan DeLucie need to team up. Crescent Sword.
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jgarci12
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:29 am 
 
Some power metal in the vain of the 'Keeper/Seven Keys' albums?
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The_Apex_of_Collapse
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:08 pm 
 
Came across a new Italian one man project called Imperial Cross and it is some above average speed metal. The guy knows how to write some killer riffs. All he has released thus far is a 2011 demo but god damn it sounds right out of the 80's. I hope this project succeeds beyond a demo, this is killer stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhnyBcU630
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The Animator
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:29 am 
 
jgarci12 wrote:
Some power metal in the vain of the 'Keeper/Seven Keys' albums?


Probably the closest thing you will find:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Trick_or_Treat/44015
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Rocka_Rollas
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:32 am 
 
Rocka Rollas will have a vocalist change, Josef had too much other stuff going on! I don't know what exactly but time will tell...
I have confirmed another singer to at least try out sing for the second album. He's good, I just need to hear exactly how well he can reach the high notes! He have admitted Josef can reach higher notes, but we will see.
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TheSimeon88
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:54 pm 
 
I'm looking for a specific type of heavy metal that has the sound and feel of heavy metal but the tempos and energy of punk rock. I'm looking for very loud production, similar to Boris's Pink but this part isn't necessary, I would just like it like that. I want the riffs to be very kickass and simple (like the title track off Boris's Pink or Budgie's Breadfan or Sabbath's Paranoid). The vocals are the most important thing I'm looking for. I'm looking for a very talented singer who has a very rough clean voice (like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAgECFjKTbo). <Actually a lot like that style of music except I want more punk flavor and more energy.
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Jophelerx
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:26 pm 
 
Coven's Worship New Gods, maybe? I don't know much that sounds like what you're describing.
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TheSimeon88
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:54 pm 
 
Jophelerx wrote:
Coven's Worship New Gods, maybe? I don't know much that sounds like what you're describing.


This is the same ballpark, but the vocals bother me. If it had really rough, less-'wailing' vocals I think it'd be great.
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Veracs
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:50 am 
 
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Thing is, Suicide Silence actually are more sonically massive than a good 95% of all the death metal bands in the Archives! Not metal, sure, but definitely a lot more brutal.

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Veracs
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:50 am 
 
Whomever posted that Serpent's Knight album I owe you a lot, fucking a Warrel Dane is a beast of a vocalist in his prime. I haven't heard a heavy metal album that good in a long fucking time.
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Thing is, Suicide Silence actually are more sonically massive than a good 95% of all the death metal bands in the Archives! Not metal, sure, but definitely a lot more brutal.

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Jophelerx
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:07 am 
 
TheSimeon88 wrote:
Jophelerx wrote:
Coven's Worship New Gods, maybe? I don't know much that sounds like what you're describing.


This is the same ballpark, but the vocals bother me. If it had really rough, less-'wailing' vocals I think it'd be great.


Well, I assume you know Motorhead already? Other than that, nothing really comes to mind, most of the heavy metal vocalists I know have a pretty clean singing style.
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:06 am 
 
TheSimeon88 wrote:
I'm looking for a specific type of heavy metal that has the sound and feel of heavy metal but the tempos and energy of punk rock. I'm looking for very loud production, similar to Boris's Pink but this part isn't necessary, I would just like it like that. I want the riffs to be very kickass and simple (like the title track off Boris's Pink or Budgie's Breadfan or Sabbath's Paranoid). The vocals are the most important thing I'm looking for. I'm looking for a very talented singer who has a very rough clean voice (like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAgECFjKTbo). <Actually a lot like that style of music except I want more punk flavor and more energy.

Fuckin' Speedwolf!
Metalian, albeit the singer is not quite rough, but check them out anyway!
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Jonpo
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:39 am 
 
Got Hellwell in yesterday. I've only had a chance to spin it twice but I'm not disappointed. It's definitely not an instant masterpiece or anything but I do find it a pretty interesting listen. The riffing is very reminiscent of the style he used in Voyager, maybe tempered with a bit of the Gates of Fire sound as well. Not very fast but lots of quite heavy and chunky riffing. The keyboards are god damn omnipresent so I guess its a good thing I dig 'em. There are even a few moments where the keys swell up and overtake everything in a very horror-movie-soundtrack kind of fashion. Keepers of the Devil's Inn is probably my favorite track so far but as you would expect I'm still just trying to wrap my head around the whole thing.

Random thought dump:

Still obsessing over Borrowed Time's Arcane Metal Arts EP/7" comp. I think Fog in the Valley has solidified itself as my favorite even over the masterful Sailor on the Seas of Fate. I think this band has the most potential of any new up-and-comers I've heard lately. They posted up some great new artwork on FB that has me very excited for a full-length.

The Lamp of Thoth's Sing as You Slay is fucking amazing. I know a lot of people can't really get into these guys whether it be because of the vocals or some of the songs coming off less "serious" but I'd definitely say give this EP a spin before you write them off. His vocals on the title track (about the Uruk-hai striking down men and elves alike) are some of my favorites in recent memory. The way he rolls his r's in Uruk-hai really sells you on the idea of him speaking for Sauron. The riffs are like the perfect middle ground between spirited NWOBHM and raunchy doom. Anyone who is curious and hasn't heard them please check out The Doom that Came to Sarnath. That song is like being stuck inside a killer weird fiction story.
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WaywardSon
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:55 pm 
 
I'm listening to a lot of Bow Wow lately. Really good early metal from Japan. OzzyApu has some reviews for them up, but they seem unnoticed aside from that. Their first 70s stuff is along the lines of Riot's 70s material: hard rocking more than heavy. They randomly went kind of pop for two albums before returning to the more metal tinged songwriting. Asian Volcano and Warning from Stardust are really NwOBHM-ish. You can definitely hear the Saxon and Maiden.

Here's The Clown from 1977's Charge and Clean Machine from Warning from Stardust.
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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:04 am 
 
Nobody talks in the thrash thread, so I'll say this here... but damn do I freaking LOVE the guitar tone throughout Flots & Jets second album, especially with the leads. Just sounds evil and intense as hell. The production seems a little inconsistent, but everything sounds incredible on "Dreams of Death". Kind of razor sharp like Artillery, but a bit thicker or something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu4JEzzs394
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBE3mXKKw40 - the intro leads, perfection.

A long shot and probably tons of stuff I've already heard, but maybe it'll be a nice refresher... anything you guys would say has a similar recording/sound?
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:25 am 
 
The latest post was yesterday, so move your post there. I'm trying to get all the help threads healthy, you're not helping!

*SIGH*

/me kicks a baby
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:09 am 
 
Triple the amount of posts in this thread and my homies are here dog, this is my land.
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:26 am 
 
This is my fist!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:06 am 
 
why is nothing as good as BG - BoF and BG - SFB?
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Lunatic_Asylum
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:29 am 
 
This has poor production, but it might interest someone here (you can view lyrics somehow there as well): www.myspace.com/crypticones .
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:14 am 
 
Metantoine wrote:
The latest post was yesterday, so move your post there. I'm trying to get all the help threads healthy, you're not helping!

*SIGH*

/me kicks a baby


FUCK THE OTHER HELP THREADS!
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hunglikemouse
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:47 am 
 
Yeah fuck em! I never read any of those threads and I'm a huge fan of each genre Minus metalcore,of course)
Its just better here. Like soup or mama's apple pie.
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BaloroftheEvilEye
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:53 pm 
 
So is this attitude part of the reason less people post in those threads? "No-one else posts there so I won't either!".
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BastardHead
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:45 pm 
 
TheSimeon88 wrote:
I'm looking for a specific type of heavy metal that has the sound and feel of heavy metal but the tempos and energy of punk rock. I'm looking for very loud production, similar to Boris's Pink but this part isn't necessary, I would just like it like that. I want the riffs to be very kickass and simple (like the title track off Boris's Pink or Budgie's Breadfan or Sabbath's Paranoid). The vocals are the most important thing I'm looking for. I'm looking for a very talented singer who has a very rough clean voice (like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAgECFjKTbo). <Actually a lot like that style of music except I want more punk flavor and more energy.


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mudrnudl
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:04 am 
 
Simply: Please recommend me something like Riot - Thundersteel. No Iron Maiden or Bruce Dickinson or Judas Priest or Virgin Steele.

Very difficultly:
Spoiler: show
I realy need to make a step forward. Few months ago I have found (could you believe I was overlooking it until then?) a breathtaking and mindblowing album Thundersteel by Riot. After few listenings I liked it much more than anything else. Of course I started discovering discography and history of this maximally underrated band. I have found out I like just albums where Tony Moore is singing. I though it is him who is making these albums such a pleasures for me. However when I listened to Faith And Fires' album Accelerator (where he is singing, too) I have realized it is the whole spell of Riot which is making me coming back to these albums again and again. It is the cooperation of whole line-up and especially Mark Reale (Oh, how we miss you master!) songwriting abilities. It went so far I cannot listen to any other band after listening to one of their song because it seems like a piece of crap to me. A while I am trying to find something what will surpass these albums however I wasn't successful. Could you give me any suggestions? Firstly I would try to subscribe my musical taste. I like h/p/s metal, don't mind older recordings, stick to europe sounding bands of this genre. I tried to manage with US power metal however I consider their sound mostly as too heavy, thrashy (I am not big fan of thrash metal) and not melodic. I think I like high clean vocal however harsh/mediocre vocal is fine, too. I do NOT like female lead vocals. I have no problems with bluesy stuff and at the same time I realy enjoy speed. I mean double kicks however I don't like it too speedy as it's modern nowdays (please, no blast beats).
What have I tried already and is NOT working:
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast , Powerslave , Seventh Son of Seventh Son
Bruce Dickinson solo work
Judas Priest - Painkiller
Virgin Steele - The Marriage of Heaven and Hell part 1
Stratovarius
Symphony X
Rhapsody of Fire
Nocturnal Rites
Nightwish
Masterplan
Dragonland
and pretty much every american sounding band

What have got close:
Timeless Miracle - Into the Enchanted Chamber
Scanner - Hypertrace
3 Inches of Blood - Long Live Heavy Metal
Pretty Maids - Red, Hot and Heavy
Labyrinth - Return to Heaven Denied (part 2 was nothing special for me)
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys (prefer part 2)
Lost Horizon - A Flame To The Ground Beneath
Heavenly - Dust to Dust
Gamma Ray - Land of the Free , No World Order
Edguy - Mandrake
Deep Purple - Machine Head
Cain's Offering - Gather the Faithful
Avantasia - Avantasia - The Metal Opera (both parts)
Aina - Days of Rising Doom - The Metal Opera
Theocracy - Mirror Of Souls , As the World Bleeds

If you did it down here - Please, can you recommend a concrete album for me?
PS: Do not try to quote this post!
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Oblarg
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:25 am 
 
Hrm, have you heard Liege Lord's Master Control? That'd probably fit the bill.
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WaywardSon
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:37 am 
 
Cloven Hoof?

Or Steel Prophet?
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Element_man
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:48 am 
 
Obviously, Hibria!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1cei6I-QRw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKQstdpRstY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDF1fL2US3c

Might get a kick out of Striker,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgLz4yBIiBs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvECq88vUts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unVJfFiZXcA
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TheSimeon88
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:21 pm 
 
Metantoine wrote:
TheSimeon88 wrote:
I'm looking for a specific type of heavy metal that has the sound and feel of heavy metal but the tempos and energy of punk rock. I'm looking for very loud production, similar to Boris's Pink but this part isn't necessary, I would just like it like that. I want the riffs to be very kickass and simple (like the title track off Boris's Pink or Budgie's Breadfan or Sabbath's Paranoid). The vocals are the most important thing I'm looking for. I'm looking for a very talented singer who has a very rough clean voice (like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAgECFjKTbo). <Actually a lot like that style of music except I want more punk flavor and more energy.

Fuckin' Speedwolf!
Metalian, albeit the singer is not quite rough, but check them out anyway!


Metalian is really what I'm looking for. I wish the singer was a little better but other than that this is pretty awesome.
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mudrnudl
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:29 pm 
 
guys thank you for replies - I will check all the bands
I heard just about Hibria which I do not like (no offence to lovers)
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Xeogred
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:21 pm 
 
Does it get more hilarious than Cage?
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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:35 pm 
 
Man, Hibria have just never done anything for me. There's nothing in particular I don't like, the music just doesn't click for me at all.
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Nahsil
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:47 pm 
 
but Defying the Rules kicks serious amounts of ass!

I actually didn't like them when I heard them at first. Came back later and didn't know what I was thinking before. Same thing happened with Lost Horizon. I think it's the vocals with Hibria, took getting used to.
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