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STORMM
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:07 pm 
 

This is news I did not expect to read, after 20 years since the last album they have signed to Century Media and have begun writing a new album with four of the original members. The first two albums were great so it will be interesting to see what they come up with.

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:19 pm 
 

As a Nevermore fan, I always kick myself for having not gotten around to the albums Sanctuary put out back in the day. Curious to see which band this album sounds more like...
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:37 pm 
 

The samples I've heard from the live setting sound more like the post-thrash groove stuff from This Godless endeavor, which is not bad as that album is more or less Nevermore's only good album. Its just not what I hoped for from a band that gave USPM the classic Refuge denied, but as it seems the custom with once great power/speed/thrash bands they end up going for chuggier/more well-produced groove/thrash hybrid and it inevitably ends up being shit compared to their past work. I don't even have to remind some here how awful the new Agent Steel ep is, this I hope will not stray in that direction.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:58 pm 
 

I remember an announcement that they had already signed, or were very close to signing with Century Media back in January so the delay since then is rather strange - perhaps due to recording. Queensryche announced they had signed with CM either after they had finished recording their new album or were just about wrapping it up only a couple months ago at most, so maybe the wait won't be too long now.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:47 pm 
 

More Warrel Dane is good, be it in Sanctuary or Nevermore.
Reality check: the first Sanctuary album isn't that good. On their second they are on their way to becoming Nevermore, so I expect this could be good. Not getting my hopes up too high though, as these things seldom live up to the hype.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:33 pm 
 

My apologies for giving this old thread the necro treatment but according to Warrel Dane, Sanctuary have been wrapping up pre-production this week and finally begin recording the new album on Sunday, February 2nd. The note about having written an entire new song after a recent rehearsal is encouraging, a sign they haven't let themselves be completely satisfied with everything they've been sitting on for the past couple of years to now. https://twitter.com/warrel_dane

Went back and checked the live performances of the two new songs. There's not too much there that excites me as they are, but there's potential there if they've undergone some changes in the meantime and I'll presume they have given the length of time since. Nevertheless, I'm holding out hope that the new album has, at minimum, a good portion of interesting riffing going on courtesy of having Brad Hull onboard and part of the writing process. An even more watered-down variant of Iced Earth, who have accomplished that just fine by themselves, won't get it done. Zeuss has shown he's able to get some inspired performances out of the bands he worked with, which is probably what's needed for Warrel more than the rest of the band.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:59 pm 
 

This sounds like a complete disaster to me, and listening to live versions of the two new pieces only confirms that. Chances are I'll eventually check out what is released, due to my love of their old stuff, but I have absolutely no hope for there being anything of quality present at all and am kind of dreading hearing it to be honest.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:27 am 
 

If it sounds like Sanctuary, it'll be great. If it sounds like Nevermore, it's going to suck. Production is one of the key elements here; if they can avoid a super-shiny sound they'll have made an excellent first step.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:56 pm 
 

Opus wrote:
More Warrel Dane is good, be it in Sanctuary or Nevermore.
Reality check: the first Sanctuary album isn't that good. On their second they are on their way to becoming Nevermore, so I expect this could be good. Not getting my hopes up too high though, as these things seldom live up to the hype.


The less of current Warrel Dane, the better. The first Sanctuary album is by far the best thing he was involved in. It's not that special, I guess, but it is solid and well-written early(?) USPM. The second album tries a bit too hard without the songwriting experience to back it all up. Ends up meandering around with songs that just don't work very well.

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I_Crash_and_Burn
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:09 pm 
 

It seems every band of the 80's is resurrecting for the sake of nostalgy.

Read just a little above that 1st Sanctuary's album isn't that good and this is why I blame internet and shits, 'cause if you had been there when that album was released and you hadn't had a billion more tracks to be freely listened to just clicking on you tube and jumpin' over buying the vinyl, I bet my eyes you'd think it different.

Sanctuary simply ruled. Theirs was a very original music that in those ancient times you hardly would have found somewhere else. What would they do today, resurrect that songwriting in a modern way? Hope for them all the best but I won't be purchasing new music.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:12 pm 
 

if they manage to release something that sounds halfway like into the mirror black i'll be happy enough. i seriously doubt they have anything to offer that i'll want to hear more than a handful of times, so just give me the nostalgia stuff. cause if it's not nostalgia, it'll be something along the lines of latter-day nevermore or dane's solo album - bog-standard andy sneap metal. boo hiss etc. i saw them live in 2012 but for the life of me, i can't remember how dane sounded on the old songs, or what the new track they were peddling was like.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:29 pm 
 

I_Crash_and_Burn wrote:
It seems every band of the 80's is resurrecting for the sake of nostalgy.

Read just a little above that 1st Sanctuary's album isn't that good and this is why I blame internet and shits, 'cause if you had been there when that album was released and you hadn't had a billion more tracks to be freely listened to just clicking on you tube and jumpin' over buying the vinyl, I bet my eyes you'd think it different.

Sanctuary simply ruled. Theirs was a very original music that in those ancient times you hardly would have found somewhere else. What would they do today, resurrect that songwriting in a modern way? Hope for them all the best but I won't be purchasing new music.
Leave the dead among the dead.


Well, hearing a lot of the better albums from the time really points out how lame Refuge Denied really is. It's not bad, just kinda weak and not very powerful like Omen, Jag Panzer, Queensryche, etc.
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Turner
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:34 pm 
 

refuge denied suffers in that the first track is the best by such a long margin, even though the rest of the album isn't too bad it's just such a letdown. i prefer the second album, it's much more consistent and actually sounds like a band finding their own sound.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:42 pm 
 

I_Crash_and_Burn wrote:
Read just a little above that 1st Sanctuary's album isn't that good and this is why I blame internet and shits, 'cause if you had been there when that album was released and you hadn't had a billion more tracks to be freely listened to just clicking on you tube and jumpin' over buying the vinyl, I bet my eyes you'd think it different.

I was there! I was 20 years old when this was released, and while I didn't have a billion tracks to listen to, I had listened to both Judas Priest and Crimson Glory. Regardless of that, bad songwriting is timeless.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:11 pm 
 

Turner wrote:
refuge denied suffers in that the first track is the best by such a long margin, [...]

God, this is so tragically true, that it hurts to admit it so. Guh.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:29 pm 
 

FasterDisaster wrote:
Turner wrote:
refuge denied suffers in that the first track is the best by such a long margin, [...]

God, this is so tragically true, that it hurts to admit it so. Guh.

I guess you guys ain't heard Die for my Sins.
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