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HeavenDuff
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:04 pm 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Singing out of tune to that extent is rather irrelevant compared to Haughm's sedated, utterly passionless crooning. That's not the major issue, though. The problem with Agalloch's version is that it's sucked dry of emotion and atmosphere compared to the original.


Are you guys really suggesting that the sleeping pill that was the original version has more passion than Agalloch's version? The original might have atmosphere... a monotonous atmosphere, but an atmosphere nonetheless... that's much better than the progression Agalloch gave to the track. I really like how Sol Invictus pacing when doing the "Summer is a'coming, arise, arise" part makes it awkward and dull. Sol Invictus does have good tracks, but I don't think their version of Kneel To The Cross is very good. Agalloch gave it emotion and atmosphere. Which Sol Invictus lacked...

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VaderCrush
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:08 pm 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Singing out of tune to that extent is rather irrelevant compared to Haughm's sedated, utterly passionless crooning. That's not the major issue, though. The problem with Agalloch's version is that it's sucked dry of emotion and atmosphere compared to the original.


I've always thought that Agalloch's vocalist had a sort of youthful-sounding charm. He's technically more proficient than Wakeford, and while I wouldn't call him great or anything, I like him. And as someone who likes both songs, I have to disagree about it being sucked dry of emotion; I think Agalloch's cover gave it a certain energy which made it a lot more powerful and spooky in comparison to the rather earthy and solemn original

Regardless, as far as content goes:

I'm a huge fan of Blind Guardian's cover of Queen's Spread Your Wings, and as much as I love freddie mercury, I think BG's guitar work raises them up higher than the original. All of Priest's early covers are absolutely fantastic as well and manage to be high points on the album they're present on rather than just throwaway filler like many covers end up being. I'm especially partial to Better By You, Better Than Me

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Ilwhyan
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:43 pm 
 

HeavenDuff wrote:
Ilwhyan wrote:
Singing out of tune to that extent is rather irrelevant compared to Haughm's sedated, utterly passionless crooning. That's not the major issue, though. The problem with Agalloch's version is that it's sucked dry of emotion and atmosphere compared to the original.


Are you guys really suggesting that the sleeping pill that was the original version has more passion than Agalloch's version? The original might have atmosphere... a monotonous atmosphere, but an atmosphere nonetheless... that's much better than the progression Agalloch gave to the track. I really like how Sol Invictus pacing when doing the "Summer is a'coming, arise, arise" part makes it awkward and dull. Sol Invictus does have good tracks, but I don't think their version of Kneel To The Cross is very good. Agalloch gave it emotion and atmosphere. Which Sol Invictus lacked...

Especially in Agalloch's version, the intro is unbearably boring - in the original, it functions as a buiild-up to the actual song. Agalloch's slower tempo and anesthetic performance make it clearly inferior to the original. The song is about the atmosphere, and Agalloch misses it.
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HeavenDuff
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:11 am 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
Especially in Agalloch's version, the intro is unbearably boring - in the original, it functions as a buiild-up to the actual song. Agalloch's slower tempo and anesthetic performance make it clearly inferior to the original. The song is about the atmosphere, and Agalloch misses it.


There is an actual progression to the intro in the version by Agalloch. I will admit that I find the intro to be a bit too long and it does tend to drag for a little too long. But it's the same for Sol Invictus' track, really.

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Thrash Til Death
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:10 am 
 

Hendrix's cover of All Along the Watchtower
Anthrax's cover of Antisocial

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Expedience
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:11 am 
 

Thrash Til Death wrote:
Hendrix's cover of All Along the Watchtower


No.

Not big on Nevermore but Sound of Silence is pretty good. I actually only found out it was a cover many years after I first heard it.
I also like Megadeth's 'These Boots'. It's the type of song early Megadeth and Mustaine's voice suits well.
Oh yes, and 'White Rabbit' by In The Woods.

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Lagartija
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:23 am 
 

oogboog wrote:
Vader's cover of Raining Blood. Not to take away anything from the original, but the heavier guitars and drums and death growls make the song sound a lot more powerful.


Vader are the fucking masters of covers, they rip through Possessed's 'Death metal' and Venom's 'Black metal' as well, making them much heavier and faster than the originals.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:57 am 
 

For me it would be Dimmu Borgir - Metal Heart and Satyricon - I got erection.
I just feel like these versions have more power in them.
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Alexr1129
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:57 am 
 

Sunn O)))'s cover of Metallica's For Whom the Bell Tolls, titled 'FWTBT'.

It's certainly heavier than Metallica, the term 'better' could be debated however.

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Celtic Frosted Flakes
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:41 pm 
 

Evocation's cover of But Life Goes On is actually one i find surpasses Entombed's version by miles.
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Sonofabitch Thirdgeneration
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:44 pm 
 

Lagartija wrote:
Vader are the fucking masters of covers, they rip through Possessed's 'Death metal' and Venom's 'Black metal' as well, making them much heavier and faster than the originals.

I decided to go check those Vader covers out and the Black Metal cover is good but the Death Metal cover totally blows, the drums sound like shit, vocals completely lack emotion and the guitar tone isnt any better either.

Raining Blood cover sounded pretty good to me but I wouldnt exactly call it better than the original

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Kveldulfr
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:47 pm 
 

Vader's cover of Freezing Moon is bad.
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HeavenDuff
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:24 am 
 

Alexr1129 wrote:
Sunn O)))'s cover of Metallica's For Whom the Bell Tolls, titled 'FWTBT'.

It's certainly heavier than Metallica, the term 'better' could be debated however.


Haha! Fantastic! I didn't even knew they made such a cover. Thanks for sharing.

Kveldulfr wrote:
Vader's cover of Freezing Moon is bad.


It does feel kind of weird to my ears. Every version by Mayhem is better than this one, IMO.

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skadiv
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:50 am 
 

Therion's "Thor" (Manowar's cover) is a brilliant song, while the original is mediocre at best.

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Lagartija
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:01 am 
 

Sonofabitch Thirdgeneration wrote:
Lagartija wrote:
Vader are the fucking masters of covers, they rip through Possessed's 'Death metal' and Venom's 'Black metal' as well, making them much heavier and faster than the originals.

I decided to go check those Vader covers out and the Black Metal cover is good but the Death Metal cover totally blows, the drums sound like shit, vocals completely lack emotion and the guitar tone isnt any better either.

Really? Hmmm, I love that cover...

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Jackoroth
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:45 am 
 

Cirith Ungol's cover of Arthur Brown's Fire completely kills the original, in fact the original is one of the most boring songs I've ever heard.
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Severb
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:38 am 
 

Slottet I Det Fjerne by Gorgoroth totally blows your mind. This version is way darker and chaotic. Coughing vocals, playing with feedback... This cover is a masterpiece.

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skwid79
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:12 pm 
 

Mandatory Suicide by Decapitated and maybe Toxic Holocaust's version of Sacrifice.

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Maniac Matis
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:41 am 
 

Going to have to say that I really enjoy Liege Lord's version of "Kill the King" much more than Heathen's. But not more than Rainbow's...because...well, that's blasphemous!
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TrooperEd
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:45 pm 
 

Obituary- Circle of the Tyrants
Nightwish- Over The Hills & Far Away

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Desperta_Ferro
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:46 pm 
 

skadiv wrote:
Therion's "Thor" (Manowar's cover) is a brilliant song, while the original is mediocre at best.


What?

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Subrick
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:11 am 
 

Kveldulfr wrote:
Vader's cover of Freezing Moon is bad.


I quite like it. I'm not as put off by the chugging as some others are, and Piotr doing the song entirely in half-singing/half-spoken word was an interesting choice.

If we're gonna talk bad covers of Freezing Moon, though, Fleurety's "wins" that debate.

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DethFanatic
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:40 am 
 

I can really get into a good cover song especially if there's something different done with the presentation.

Here's some that I find more amusing than the original version for various reasons:

City of Fire - Veteran of the Psychic Wars
Crash - Smoke on the Water
Gorefest - Autobahn
Jeff Walker und Die Fluffers - pretty much the entire damn album
Sentenced - House of the Rising Sun
Sepultura - Orgasmatron
Sepultura - The Hunt
SYL - Room 429
Vader - Troops of Tomorrow

Some others that are definitely amusing even if they don't necessarily manage to top the original version:

Amon Amarth - Balls to the Wall
Apostle of Solitude - Where Eagles Dare
Megadeth - Problems
Motorhead - God Save The Queen
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Stone69
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:28 am 
 

Absu - Deathcrush [Mayhem]
Behemoth - Carnage [Mayhem]
Monstrosity - Angel Of Death [Slayer]
Angel Dust - Temple Of The King [Rainbow]
Dissection - The Anti Christ [Slayer]
Angelcorpse - Pleasure To Kill [Slayer]
Cradle Of Filth - Hallowed Be Thy Name [Iron Maiden]
Bewitched - Let The Blood Run Red [Thor]

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Orkblut
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Location: Australia
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:00 am 
 

Dunno if these have been mentioned but i like:

Iced Earth - Don't Fear The Reaper
Marduk - Paint It Black
Amon Amarth - Balls to the wall & War Machine
Dark Tranquillity - My Friend of Misery
Pain - Elenor Rigby
Hypocrisy - Black Metal

& Who could forget Ten Masked Men - Sexbomb, Blue, Livin Da vidaloca & Eye of the Tiger!!

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Ball Cupper
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:52 am 
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qjdo4yVv2I
I think Chelsea Wolfe's cover of Black Spell of Destruction is absolutely great. Everything about the song sounds "off" in exactly the right way, it's got a fantastic atmosphere. The original was great, but I find myself listening to this cover more often.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:57 pm 
 

Debauchery - Angel of Death (Slayer cover)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jh-R9QhPj0

Six Feet Under - Holocaust (Savatage cover)
Six Feet Under - T.N.T. (AC/DC cover)
Six Feet Under - Sweet Leaf (Black Sabbath cover)
Six Feet Under - Piranha (Exodus cover)
Six Feet Under - Son of a Bitch (Accept cover)
Six Feet Under - Stepping Stone (Paul Revere and the Raiders cover)
Six Feet Under - Confused (Angel Witch cover)
Six Feet Under - California Über Alles (Dead Kennedys cover)
Six Feet Under - Smoke on the Water (Deep Purple cover)
Six Feet Under - Blackout (Scorpions cover)
Six Feet Under - Purple Haze (Jimi Hendrix cover)
Six Feet Under - In League With Satan (Venom cover)
Six Feet Under - Hell's Bells (AC/DC cover)
Six Feet Under - Shoot to Thrill (AC/DC cover)
Six Feet Under - What Do You Do for Money Honey? (AC/DC cover)
Six Feet Under - Givin' the Dog a Bone (AC/DC cover)
Six Feet Under - Let Me Put My Love into You (AC/DC cover)
Six Feet Under - Back in Black (AC/DC cover)
Six Feet Under - You Shook Me All Night Long (AC/DC cover)
Six Feet Under - Have a Drink on Me (AC/DC cover)
Six Feet Under - Shake a Leg (AC/DC cover)
Six Feet Under - Rock 'N' Roll Ain't Noise Pollution (AC/DC cover)
Six Feet Under - Bastard (Mötley Crüe cover)
Six Feet Under - A Dangerous Meeting (Mercyful Fate cover)
Six Feet Under - Metal on Metal (Anvil cover)
Six Feet Under - The Frayed Ends of Sanity (Metallica cover)
Six Feet Under - At Dawn They Sleep (Slayer cover)
Six Feet Under - Not Fragile (Bachman Turner Overdrive cover)
Six Feet Under - On Fire (Van Halen cover)
Six Feet Under - Pounding Metal (Exciter cover)
Six Feet Under - Destroyer (Twisted Sister cover)
Six Feet Under - Psychotherapy (Ramones cover)
Six Feet Under - Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck (Prong cover)

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Smoking_Gnu
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:09 pm 
 

skadiv wrote:
Therion's "Thor" (Manowar's cover) is a brilliant song, while the original is mediocre at best.


It's best live, notably on Live Gothic where the band gives it a lot more energy than whatever album the cover first showed up on, alongside Snowy Shaw's deliciously over-the-top vocals.

I also really enjoy Rotting Christ's cover of Lucifer over London, over the Current 93 version. The latter isn't bad at all, but the reverb-drenched guitars and keyboards in the RC version give it an even more ominous, majestic feel than the original. One of my favorite "get pumped up songs" these days.
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