I think a lot of other DSBM bands ruin it with really terrible music. That is one genre i just cannot get my head around. No redeeming qualities whatsoever (for me at least).

I've never heard shining and i saw some trailer for their new album where the guy was drunk , naked in a bathtub, bleeding and eating fake puss. Now i definitely have no intention of hearing them. Ever. They strike me about the same as watain, in which the music could be neat but i wouldnt know because i just cannot get past the whole 'we're too evil and pretentious to have fun ' schtick.

But whatever you're into mate.

Shining is probably the only original band in Black Metal now-a-days.

I've been listening to a lot of these guys over the last few months. There's something about them that just seems right, like this is what black metal should base itself off musically, particularly with Halmstad as that I think is just an excellent album. The suicide shit I don't really pay attention to, although knowing that that's a big part of the band's mystique gives them a morbidness that a lot of other black metal bands don't have (plus a lot of other DSBM bands kinda ruin it with REALLY terrible vocals, I.E. Silencer).
So yeah, what's everyone else gotta say about them?

I beg your pardon? How many black metal bands have you heard? More than five?

I beg your pardon? How many black metal bands have you heard? More than five?

I agree that bands like DSO or BAN, were original, but not anymore, as there are tons of bands who mimic their sound now. On the other hand I can't keep track of every band that pops up.

Absolutely love Shining. Think they're a brilliant band, don't really care for the first two albums but III onwards are awesome, the only one I haven't paid too much attention to is VII which I will probably have another listen to later. I am looking forward to Redefining Darkness.

On stage I think he is a great frontman and a very good showman. Whether his antics are part of an elaborate act or due to him being mentally ill I doubt we will know, nor do I really care.

As for Nattram, I understand he is/was in a psychiatric hospital. However I believe he never killed a child with an axe and am sure he still has real hands

Offtopic: Subrick, you the same Subrick as on the TSE forums?

Wow, you are really out there. I didn't say they were less original. I said, that a lot of bands got that sound now, so there are more bands that sound alike. It doesn't matter who did what first. If there are more bands playing similar stuff, it isn't original anymore.

Research? I don't even know what you are trying to point out here. You just come out of nowhere and try to imply that I don't look up new bands. and then you end you're whole nonsense rant with calling me a wank.

. The insane scars he has up and down his arms and on his chest are proof. A normal, sane, together person doesn't do that to themselves unless there is something seriously wrong with them psychologically.

The band really redeemed themselves with VII - Född Förlorare though. It's an awesome album with really strong songs and awesome guest performances by Nordman and Erik Danielsson.

Many people cut/burn themselves for many different reasons. I think he has done it for attention, none of them I saw when I met him were particularly deep, I't doesn't take a big hard man to cut your wrist from wrist to elbow so the vein/artery cannot be repaired. If he were seriously suicidal he would have fucking commited suicide by now instead of chicken scratching his arms / chest for attention.

The new EP, Lots of Girls Gonna Get Hurt, on the other hand absolutely SUCKS! Hopefully the new album doesn't follow in the style of this EP. Commercial, boring drivel.

The crying girl one is most likely Lat Oss Ta Allt Fran Varandra from Halmstad; that album has a couple samples from Prozac Nation (which actually wasn't that bad of a movie, mostly because pretty much everyone in it gave a great performance). The guy banging his head on the door one I have yet to hear, however.

Defiantly checking that out, if the price is reasonable.