It's a CD. "Where Next to Conquer" has a length of 03:50, but on my CD, its length is 04:11. At 03:24, Karl is singing "where next..." and then he's singing "mankind's journey" right after that.

The back says "MOSH 70," then below that:

745316007021

Chuck it in your computer and rip it then open it up with Audacity and take a look at it.
Could be a mispress or mastering error, it's not some weirdo Russian version is it?

It's the US version with "Crown of Life" and "Lament."

Ditto, give or take a couple of seconds.

Does anyone know how the recent Russian bootleg of Morbid Sanint - Spectrum of Death (Grindcore Records) differs from the original version? Probably the matrix code. Just noticed that there are new swamps of bootlegs coming from there such as:

Grinder
Angel Dust
Protector
Death Angel
+ more

I believe the Morbid Saint bootleg is so new that none of the 'trustees' have had a chance to examin it yet.

Morbid Saint bootleg is on ebay now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Morbid-Saint-Sp ... 27d03cf907

I compared that picture with the original Grindcore version I have:



There might be a difference in matrix, but I can't tell now. But there's another obvious difference: The area near the inner hole of the cd. My original copy has a black label side that covers everything from outer circle to inner ring. The Russian boot is also black, but there's a transparent/non-black ring seperating the playable part with the inner ring, if you know what I mean.

You're not the only one, same thing happens with my CD which was bought directly from the Earache label so im pretty sure we both have an official release that are probably part of recent error pressing.

Feel free to add it to Discogs, I bet other people have it too

Hi there!
I need help about a planned purchase on amazon.it

Morgoth 'Cursed to live' cd
Suffocation 'Close of a chapter' cd

sometimes Amazon send a Century Media and Relapse licensed version of Icarus Music from Argentina.

To avoid the risk of being delivered to home the licensed version and taking the fact that Amazon will not tell me why is the version of the CD that I'm going to buy, I wanted to ask if possible, if there are licensed versions of the two CDs I listed above.

Please note that I have already search on Discogs and there are no licensed versions.

Thank you!

I don't recall Amazon itself ever doing that (just check the label on the product details).

Third party sellers do that all of the time, had some returned, some refunded, but have since stopped bothering because they're cheap enough and I'm already expecting it. Why don't you ask the seller what's the label and catalog number?

Hello and thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately amazon.it sent me a cd Icarus licensed from Century Media (Death 'Leprosy').
Third party sellers if you ask what is the label of the CD they will respond vaguely that it can not check for sure.
The only solution I have is to risk and then maybe ask for a refund when a cd is licensed.
But it's still a hassle... I hope that cheap price does not mean always Icarus' licensed cd

If it's new it probably means that. Or maybe not Icarus but Scarecrow or other South American label. Or maybe those are just cheap, they could be.

Devildriver 'Pray for villains' cd

Do you know any South American licensed version of this? Please help me, THX!

does anyone know of any recent dark angel - we have arrived bootlegs?

Years ago I bought Morbid Angel "Blessed Are The Sick" brand new on CD. This was probably around 1996 or 1997. When I opened it up, it looked like the disc was wrong - and I mistakenly got "Sleep's Holy Mountain" instead. When I played this disc, it was indeed Morbid Angel "Blessed Are The Sick" - just pressed with the wrong disc artwork.

Did anyone else ever encounter this one? Was this a pressing mistake that Morbid Angel, Sleep, or Earache Records ever addressed?

Thanks, not sure where to post this.

So I just got A Blaze In The Northern Sky. Was expecting the black disc version but nope was the white! Just from reading some sites it's not the rarest of cds but seems to go for a silly price and there seems to be a lot of bootlegs around so need someone to tell me if this is legit.



Scanner is not working and I can't really show the back, but matrix is "VILECD 28 MPO 01 @@".

Hmm, maybe you got lucky. Compare to this one: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=2624225

$320?! ha ha whoah

God dammit, got one of these today
Sarcófago ‎– I.N.R.I. BOOTLEG
http://www.discogs.com/Sarc%C3%B3fago-INRI/release/3961236

I recently acquired "From Ashes" by Abysmal Dawn, but just the CD, i.e. I don't have the album artwork or case. I bought a crap load of CDs from a guy, and thus far the albums I've been checking seem to be legit. I believe it's the original print. It doesn't really have any identifying information on the front besides the album title and band, but the only thing it appears to say on the CD matrix is "#7400 - Abysmal Dawn - From Ashes". No barcode, nothing else, just that.

Why would anyone bootleg a 2006 album from Crash that has been reissued by Relapse?!

Bootleg or not that album rocks.

So are you expressing surprise that it is actually a bootleg, or are you saying that it's very unlikely? About half of the CD's I bought from this guy came with the original jewelcase and everything, and the rest he said he didn't have the artwork, they were digipaks, or came in sleeves or something. Does anyone else have the original CD to compare?

I'm saying it's pretty much improbable, not to say impossible.

Oh yeah for sure, you can hear the clicks and pops of the needle playing the vinyl it was ripped from

RIOT - Army of One

Does anyone know of a russian licensed version of this album?

Or does anyone know this seller:
cult_of_the_shadow
(he is also on discogs)

I was about to buy this from ebay, but the Label: Mazzar/Mystic Empire, which is based in Russia drew my attention. It should be Metal Heaven from germany, and i can't find any info about this licensed version. Mazzar and Mystic Empire are listed on Metal-Archives, but this album is not listed.
The seller has almost perfect feedback, but it's very suspicious that he already sold five (!!!) copies of this rather hard to find album (none on discogs or ebay anywhere) in the past weeks.
Here's the ebay link:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/RIOT-Army-of-One ... 257bdf548d

Is this a bootleg? Any help would be appreciated.

Today I got a copy of Paradise Lost's Shades Of God in the mail box, the US/Metal Blade version with CAT# 3984-14001-2. Everything is cool and supposedly matches the online info, but there's something pretty bizarre with two songs on the CD. Both "Daylight Torn" and "The Word Made Flesh" have longer running times than they should, with the first having 80 seconds more and the second 30 seconds more. The CD plays normally and all, it's just that those two tracks have that amount of silence before they end and the next one begins, which is pretty weird indeed.

Can anyone who has the same version confirm this? Could this be an early misprint or anything like that, or was the US version just fucked up? If anyone has the same edition please also put the matrix here so I can double check it as well. Thanks in advance.

This sounds like that shitty bootleg of the Re-animator debut that was doing the rounds a year or so ago, supposedly on Kraze records. The sound was awful, you could actually hear the original vinyl it was ripped off turning as it was clearly warped, not to mention pops and clicks (and even the odd jump!).

Another interesting aspect about the actual CD is that it has two "strips" of a different colour on the surface, much like a multimedia track appears differently than the rest of the surface. Those two are more or less placed where the gaps of silence appear while playing the disc. This must be really some fucked up press.

With that in mind, doesn't anybody have the US version of this album?!

Cool, thanks

kind sir,
i have this CD you speak of and all statements made by you are true for my side as well.
good luck

Well, thanks for that (whoever you are).

I'm assuming this thread refers to music DVD's too. I'm hoping to find a copy of Kreator's Extreme Aggression in Berlin video on DVD. Google and Ebay aren't giving any answers.

Discogs report Kreator "Extreme Aggression Tour 1989/'90" only in VHS format.

http://www.discogs.com/Kreator-Extreme- ... se/2498701

But you'll find this live concert in the DVD "At The Pulse Of Kapitulation - Live In East Berlin 1990", easily available.

http://www.discogs.com/Kreator-At-The-P ... ter/459765

Hi everyone, i have a question that maybe already was discussion subject.
Those last days i got some CDs from this RELAPSE records, Argentina, does anyone know if the RELAPSE records have legally permission to re-print CDs? And since it exist alot of CDs from them, should to be considerate as re-release in this website so we can/have to add in the Additional Notes of each CD? For example, album titled Antithesis from Origin (US) is originally from 2008, but the RELAPSE records released it in 2011.
Zodijackyl kindly answerd me that the Relapse is legal and good and so on, but i don't see some of their re-release in the list of the artist's released works.. neither in the additional infos of a specific re-released CD.

Let me know thanks! Bye

US and European labels usually give legal permission for Russian and South American releases, and those normally come out later than the original release date. They're usually done by other (local) labels and have reference to the original label, either by a logo or a "licensed by ..." on the back cover and/or booklet. They're legit plain and simple. MA doesn't have all the releases of every album, for that you can visit RYM or Discogs. It just isn't MA's "thing" if you catch my drift.

Relapse has some of their stuff reissued on South America, either by Icarus Music or Disembodied Records or any other label. It's usually sold cheaper for the South American market but the quality is the same and it's perfectly legal/licensed stuff (may be a grey area if they should be sold outside that geographical area as happens to eastern Europe releases, for instance). That Origin album, for instance, can be seen here:

http://www.discogs.com/Origin-Antithesi ... se/4012239

Usually discogs is the best source for that kind of information (it tries to keep all the issues for all the albums, but being a user contributed database it may not be always up to date).

Hi!

I don't think, it is hard to find.
Found 4 sellers on ebay, who sell Riot - Army Of One

Mystic Empire/Mazzar made that in 2007, here is link http://www.mazzar.ru/2007/12/riot_army-of-one_-_2006-2007.html

I believe, greek seller just made trade with some russian label and now he has much Riot to sell

Cool, thank you for your answer!