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chaossphere
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 4:42 am 
 

I smell a shitty bootleg.. literally.
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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:52 pm 
 

^ that doesn't match anything at Discogs, where did you by it from?
default question: can you post a photo of the matrix...
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AcidMind
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:28 am 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
^ that doesn't match anything at Discogs, where did you by it from?
default question: can you post a photo of the matrix...


Bought it from Discogs, here is foto

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chaossphere
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:33 am 
 

That's literally the Norwegian spelling of Dysentery :lol: According to this seller it's the first press: http://www.discogs.com/seller/hvislyset ... itle%2Casc I guess that sort of randomness fits in with Gorgoroth's overall sense of humour.
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AcidMind
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:16 am 
 

Interesting :-)
Probably i have to send money back to Seller, because i opened already PP dispute (which was closed today)
Need second opinion, he he

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chaossphere
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:32 pm 
 

Considering that guy's selling it for 79 euro, it's either the real deal or the seller is an asshole.
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Recordcollector
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 4:43 am 
 

About the Gorgoroth Anticrist cd. two bootlegs of Gorgoroth Pentagram on discogs:
http://www.discogs.com/Gorgoroth-Pentag ... se/3954529
http://www.discogs.com/Gorgoroth-Pentag ... se/3692292
Matrix codes DOOM and GORGOROTH on Pentagram and now DYSENTERI on Antichrist, well, I think that's a bootleg too.

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thesilentenigma
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 4:35 am 
 

turboeye wrote:
which one is the first pressing?


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Should be the one on the right as Napalm used that circle logo on tray cards throughout most of the early and mid 90's.

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 9:05 pm 
 

^ the disc on the right has a clear ring in the centre too?
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 8:37 am 
 

hi to all!
Help with Metallica "The 5.98 ep...."
Mercury, Matrix - 888 788-2 03 # YE MADE IN GERMANY
On cd says - Last cares/Green hell (instead Last caress)
this missprint or bootleg?

and about Iron maiden "Live in Donington", white cover, CD - Made in Holland, back - Printed in UK - this cd must contain booklet or not? (My cd without booklet)
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 10:09 am 
 

Metallica appears to be a very common misprint
The Iron Maiden 100% is meant to have a booklet, maybe it's a promo copy or the seller lost it.
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welten
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 2:42 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Metallica appears to be a very common misprint
The Iron Maiden 100% is meant to have a booklet, maybe it's a promo copy or the seller lost it.


thanks!
no, Maiden is not promo, ordinary 2 cd
http://www.discogs.com/Iron-Maiden-Live ... se/2227440
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Asti78
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:07 pm 
 

welten wrote:
dreadmeat wrote:
Metallica appears to be a very common misprint
The Iron Maiden 100% is meant to have a booklet, maybe it's a promo copy or the seller lost it.


thanks!
no, Maiden is not promo, ordinary 2 cd
http://www.discogs.com/Iron-Maiden-Live ... se/2227440


The Maiden CD did not have a "booklet" in common sense, just a one-sided front and back insert which were always used for those huge double CD cases. Some releases had an additional booklet inside, but this one did not.
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 5:34 pm 
 

^ yeah depends what you meant by "booklet" :roll:
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welten
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:25 am 
 

Asti78 wrote:
The Maiden CD did not have a "booklet" in common sense, just a one-sided front and back insert which were always used for those huge double CD cases. Some releases had an additional booklet inside, but this one did not.


thanks!!
really strange thing :) I have Overkill Wrecking your neck in the same huge double CD case and he with booklet :)

Still what about Metallica.....here says, that if on CD "Last cares" - is bootleg ; but here says that is missprint......
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chaossphere
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 11:02 pm 
 

Yeah the original fat-case release of Live At Donington had no booklet, I guess they were going for an "official bootleg" kind of feel to it. The 1998 reissue has a full booklet though.
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 8:13 pm 
 

I just found out my Nirvana - With The Lights Out box set is a bootleg/counterfeit :ugh:
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:00 pm 
 

The amount of bootlegs coming out of Greece and Russia is amazing.

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 10:31 pm 
 

I think this one might be Chinese, it looks similar to my ultra crap copy of Live At Reading bootleg and has some of the same flaws/matrix info etc
This stuff isn't hard to find but now I have to try to find legit copies uggh!
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chaossphere
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:26 pm 
 

I see Live At Reading at The Warehouse for like $12 all the time. Digipak though. I also have a copy of Bleach on the way that may be an original pressing (was listed as only having 11 tracks) but we'll see...

edit: nope, Geffen reissue, Australian pressing :roll:
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:19 am 
 

Need help with Incubator / Mc Gillroy The Housefly - got a copy from discogs, but looks different then pics in this release: http://www.discogs.com/Incubator-Mc-Gil ... ase/615257

Here are fotos:

colors looks different
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album name on edges - one in green/ one in blue (on discogs - both green)
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matrix is the same, but ... any ideas?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:57 pm 
 

matrix looks legit, that's all I can say.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:31 am 
 

As for the edges, the color mismatch may be from the sun. I have lots of CDs that, unaware, received too much direct sunlight and got their exposed spine tainted, yellowish, or got their original color changed is some other way.
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AcidMind
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:08 am 
 

Want to dispel my doubts: is this font of Sonopress legit?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:15 am 
 

Looks fine to me, I've seen some mirrored/reversed Sonopress stuff where they have somehow managed to invert the colours, idiots.
What albums are they?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:41 am 
 

Sepultura / Schizophrenia (top, with ifpi)
Pestlince / Consuming Impulse (bottom, no ifpi)

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Karnarium
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:14 pm 
 

I am hoping somebody can tell me what press, year these cds are and most importantly what the value is. I can only find the Some Girls release on discogs:
http://www.discogs.com/Rolling-Stones-S ... se/1730073
The other 2 albums have the same vertical line on them with information. I checked the CBS collection 1971 - 1989 and the discs look diferent.

All 3 CD's have a Red Tray

These CD's were bought anywhere earlier than 1991 (most probably 1986 - 1987)

1. Rolling Stones - Some Girls (Matrix: Mastered by DADC AUSTRIA CDCBS- 450197 31 A12)
2. Rolling Stones - Tattoo You (Matrix: CDCBS- 450198 22 D7)
3. Rolling Stones - Black 'n Blue (Matrix: Mastered by DADC AUSTRIA)

I have pictures, I'm just having trouble putting them on this post as I suck at using the computer.


Please let me know if you have any information on the value especially.

Thanks

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kyzanar
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:52 am 
 

Does this matrix look okay? Bought from legitimate seller but I can't remember seeing a sonopress that looks like this one.

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Here is link to version: http://www.discogs.com/Defiance-Void-Te ... se/2952811
There are a horde of greek sellers hence my corcern.

Also sorry for smudgy images, forgot to clean my scanner before I took these :grumble:
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:44 am 
 

To me that looks dodgy as, what other inconsistencies are there?
You'll need to have a bit of a hunt around to find a photo of the matrix of another one [or ask a Discogs seller]
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:00 am 
 

https://www.musik-sammler.de/media/300711

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:04 am 
 

I had a quick look... google only yields your ebay auction for the matrixes. what's the date printed on the discs?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:04 am 
 

This picture is way better, the matrix seen here isn't even Sonopress though

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171825299278
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:27 am 
 

thats the US version. hard to see it on musiksammler, but this is how the real sonopress version looks.

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kyzanar
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:20 pm 
 

Thanks RecordCollector, could not find a matrix image for my version anywhere. As I suspected it should look like normal sonopress matrix.

I explicitly asked before placing my order if it was legitimate too... :annoyed:

Well hopefully I can get my money back
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:33 pm 
 

kyzanar if you can spare the time can you add it to Discogs as an unofficial release, include scans especially of the matrix too if you can.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:15 pm 
 

Karnarium wrote:
I am hoping somebody can tell me what press, year these cds are and most importantly what the value is. I can only find the Some Girls release on discogs:
http://www.discogs.com/Rolling-Stones-S ... se/1730073
The other 2 albums have the same vertical line on them with information. I checked the CBS collection 1971 - 1989 and the discs look diferent.

All 3 CD's have a Red Tray

These CD's were bought anywhere earlier than 1991 (most probably 1986 - 1987)

1. Rolling Stones - Some Girls (Matrix: Mastered by DADC AUSTRIA CDCBS- 450197 31 A12)
2. Rolling Stones - Tattoo You (Matrix: CDCBS- 450198 22 D7)
3. Rolling Stones - Black 'n Blue (Matrix: Mastered by DADC AUSTRIA)

I have pictures, I'm just having trouble putting them on this post as I suck at using the computer.


Please let me know if you have any information on the value especially.

Thanks



Karnarium - to add images you have to use an external hosting site, imgur is pretty good, just upload the images here as an album then just post the link in here http://imgur.com/
Also I'm moving this to the bootleg/ID thread, more traffic in there too.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:14 am 
 

I have A blaze in the northern sky, transylvanian hunger, and under a funeral moon all on digipak. Now the blaze album's digipak is a matte sort of texture, while the other two are glossy. Im sure of blaze being a legitimate copy, but both of the other ones vary slightly on the matrix

http://www.discogs.com/Darkthrone-Under-A-Funeral-Moon/release/471203 (variant 2)

http://www.discogs.com/Darkthrone-Transilvanian-Hunger/release/369951 (variant 3)

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:01 am 
 

I'd like to see the matrix fonts, can you chuck up some photos?
FYI I have http://www.discogs.com/release/471203

Matrix / Runout (Variant 3): CDVILED35
Mastering SID Code (Variant 3): IFPI LTZ1
Mould SID Code (Variant 3): NONE

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:44 pm 
 

hey guys, i need to know if my version of Grin by Coroner is the real deal or a bootleg.
The problem is that the matrix numbers on my cd corresponds to both:

The original Noise pressing:
http://www.discogs.com/Coroner-Grin/release/780102

And a russian bootleg:
http://www.discogs.com/Coroner-Grin/release/5780702

Also,mine came with a Noise mailorder card.
Do you think a bootlegger would bother printing that?

Here's some photos:
http://imgur.com/wiHwbtP
http://imgur.com/B9qHyay
http://imgur.com/ffUgw9b
http://imgur.com/EwPoJtU
The mailorder card : http://imgur.com/a6BA3lY,TZLZkdN#0

Oh and by the way, this is my first post! Yay! :)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:51 pm 
 

A bootlegger wouldn't dream of printing a mailorder card :roll:
Does the thing smell old? it will likely have that awesome unmistakable old smell
You might be able to compare the volume to something of the same era/something new

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