The promo evidently is different again

Yeah probably those shady cunts from Icarus tossing out boots on the side.. kinda like how Last Episode bootlegged Graveland - Carpathian Wolves, except they didn't even try to hide it.

What do you think about this? legit or not? mastering ifpi is LL88

Did you check Discogs? That looks like it matches up with everything here: http://www.discogs.com/Beyond-Twilight- ... se/1774406 The only thing slightly strange is that the outside of the disk looks black/green on your scan rather than purple.

I ALWAYS check first on Discogs.com, i am a contributor to the site, but you must know that the data found there is not always reliable, even I have corrected some releases.

Yeah, I've corrected a handful of things too. It's not perfect but it does have its uses. What makes you think your release is a bootleg? The CD was released in 2006 and it can be picked up for just a few bucks so I don't see why it would be bootlegged.

Literally anything seems to be fair game for bootleggers these days... if you scroll back through this thread you'll find bootlegs of Kings of Metal and Blizzard of Ozz for fucks sake!

And my Vengeance Rising CD too...

The poor quality of the cd printing is suspicious, compare my photo with this from de Discogs database:

My copy:


from Discogs:

It looks pretty bad yeah, the colours are wrong and blurry and that ring around the centre looks different too.

Looks like one of those vending-machine bootlegs from Thailand.

Just bringing this one up again for uglijimus
viewtopic.php?p=2498980

^ just from the distance: Bootleg has a yellow label print covering the clear plastic ring around the center hole of the disc, the orginial doesn't.

so from that description, is this legit?

http://www.mediafire.com/view/6hzo1lbao ... apture.PNG

(sorry i can't get files to display correctly on this site)


is everything else exactly the same like matrix, etc.?

Not necessarily, it could still an improved new generation bootleg, but I see which auction you mean. If you want to bid on that: The seller doesn't look like a typical bootleg seller, he definitely is selling some org items as far as I can see. To me he looks more or less trustable, but if you really want to go sure, i would ask for a pic of the matrix code and post it here.

damn, you found it (^_^)

I've been trying to get this for years, but it's towards the end of my price range. anyway, I asked for a pic of the matrix. does that mean that the matrix for the russian bootleg is different?

So I just found this in my local shop today:
http://www.discogs.com/Bolt-Thrower-In- ... se/6672569

I noticed it is almost the same as this version Dreadmeat has added but with different matrix and IFPI codes off by one number each
http://www.discogs.com/Bolt-Thrower-In- ... se/4618715

EDC Blackburn was a UK based company, so I went ahead and assumed mine was UK distributed by Pinnacle as it says on the back cover there is a different distributor for every country, so I guess there are a number of very similar but different versions out there with this same cat#

Do you think my assumptions are right, and does anybody know what year these represses took place? (Has to have been between 2006-2009 as per years of operation of EDC Blackburn)

Someone can help me to identify year of pressing of this "The Priest of Satan" version from swedish horde The Black ?

Matrix code is: RB03735NR003-2 RAINBO Ifpi L125



It has barcode and same CD printing design as 2nd version on Necropolis
I think this is post 1994... ?!?
Thanx in advance

I think it was in 1996

Just leave the date blank, someone one day will get more info and update the label page.
Your supposition based on the current label page info sounds about right though.

Thanx you. Someone else could confirm ? Really appreciated.

That's a reasonably terrible photo
I'd say after 1994 is a definite.

I know, but pic is not made by me.

What is the # on the disc for Pessimist - Cult of the Initiated? This album always looked a little iffy to me and if I didn't know any better I would think it was a bootleg, but I imagine it's probably just.. crappily made. Anyone know?

I used to have that, definitely wasn't bootlegged and mine was a shoddy looking disc too. It's just the label, obviously they used the cheapest manufacturing they could find.

Can't remember where I got it -- I bought it new in the late 2000s, I think, possibly from The End/Omega -- but on mine the disc says: 2360-48299-2B and Biz2Net Corporation, whatever the hell that is.

edit:
I went through my Omega order history and sure enough, got it there in 2009. I don't know how legitimate this is, but on the invoice under the "vendor" column, it says "United Guttural (trade)" so I suppose that could mean Omega got it straight from the label.

That sounds legit, I doubt The End would try to flog off bootlegs. Plus the first 4 digits of the matrix code match the first four digital of the matrix on Blood For The Gods so it'll be the same pressing plant.

Hi everybody!
Got couple of CDs, would like to know yours opinion

KREATOR / ENDLESS PAIN
please look at fonts etc. only difference form http://www.discogs.com/Kreator-Endless- ... se/5459298 is mould SID ifpi (which is 1208 instead of 1210)



OBITUARY / CAUSE OF DEATH
looks legit to me, but want second opinion, he he

The Kreator looks fine, the SID codes can vary, those Noise represses irk me no end! adding them to the database is a real pain [see Celtic Frost and Hellhammer] you'll also get MPO logos as well as MPO plain text, there are other pressing plants too but everything else is identical, there will probably be 5 different identical pressings of it.

The Obituary looks legit too, nice old Disc MFG matrix? how is the print quality?
That ultra detailed artwork suffers when they repress it, I have a Korean version [below] and it's a bit blurry, newer represses look pretty crap too.

http://www.discogs.com/Obituary-Cause-Of-Death/release/4860857

I've got the gold disc reissue of Cause of Death and the artwork looks like pixelated dogshit. Used to have an original press but lost it somewhere along the way

Here you go, mate!
And thanks for reply

That doesn't look like pixelated dogshit, cool

Just to clear any confusion, I was referring to the disc label print on the reissue, not the booklet. The cover art itself looks fine, actually better than the original

Thanks guys. DeathfarDevil my number is off by a digit but otherwise the same. The front cover looks like it came off a cheap printer and the inside of the back insert is plain white so that's what got me wondering. They definitely could've done a better job worthy of the album itself.

The back insert is plain white cause it's designed for an opaque disc tray, which was quite a common thing back then.

Mine is clear. It must not be the original tray. Most of the clear ones are usually accompanied by artwork. I guess that's probably why I noticed it in the first place.

Possibly someone replaced it and didn't have a black one available. They're becoming a bit scarce these days. Some factories don't even seem to use them any more, my copy of Kaamos - Lucifer Rising came sealed with a clear tray with white underneath. I swapped it for a black one, looks much better haha.

Hi guys.

I went hunting for a original copy of Pantera's "Power Metal" and I got hold of some pictures. Can anyone help in solving the bootleg question about this one. Here are the pics:

http://postimg.org/gallery/fo9u49ce/cc0212ed

So can anyone compare with an original copy of the CD? I can also get more pictures if needed. I would say that this one looks original to me.

^ ha ha my friend here just asked me to buy that for them yesterday! [the bootleg]

I don´t have the original buy here there is a detail form discogs.com about the ofiicial release: -This genuine official pressing has a heavy stock card front insert. The counterfeit versions don't have this. The back inserts on the genuine pressings were too large for the jewel cases causing a wavy effect that could be mistaken for water damage.-
this is the official release: http://www.discogs.com/Pantera-Power-Me ... se/2254124