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ancientorder
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:04 am 
 

Could someone post a picture of the matrix on Sarcófago's Rotting (Under One Flag press)?

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androdion
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:50 pm 
 

Does anyone have an original IRS copy of Nuclear Assault's Survive? And if anyone does, would it be too much to ask for a detailed picture of the matrix so I can check the font against a copy a friend of mine bought recently? Thanks mates. ;)
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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:08 am 
 

carnival_corpse wrote:
dreadmeat wrote:
Morpheus Descends - Chronicles Of The Shadowed Ones

Any bootlegs of this floating about that you guys know of?
Apparently there was a problem with the first press and and rear cover was upside down so the second 'batch' had 2 rear inserts?! :scratch:

Some scans I was sent
http://imgur.com/a/f5wWN#0


What is the matrix number on that version of yours?

I don't have it I'm looking to get it :thumbsup:

P302850-1 MORPHUS
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carnival_corpse
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:04 am 
 

Quote:
Any bootlegs of this floating about that you guys know of?
Apparently there was a problem with the first press and and rear cover was upside down so the second 'batch' had 2 rear inserts?! :scratch:

Some scans I was sent
http://imgur.com/a/f5wWN#0


What is the matrix number on that version of yours?[/quote]
I don't have it I'm looking to get it :thumbsup:

P302850-1 MORPHUS
Image[/quote][/quote]

That matrix matches the one from my collection. This is supposedly the first press that came in a black tray CD and plain white in the inner side of the back tray insert (no vampire printing).

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Recordcollector
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:03 pm 
 

Maybe not the right place to ask, since this have nothing to do with bootlegging or anything like that, but was recently looking at my Ancient - The Cainian Chronicle and it was totally damaged by Disc Rot. This CD are made by Berlin Optical Disc (just BOD in matrix), anyone else seen this problem with the Ancient album or BOD CDs in general?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:33 pm 
 

Disc rot was something that affected a few plants and a few releases suffered from this.
Ancient - The Cainian Chronicle CDs are cheap to replace

http://www.discogs.com/release/1880695
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:39 am 
 

Black Sabbath ‎– Live At Last...
Anyone out there have a Power Sound 2001 version of this?

http://www.discogs.com/release/5499568
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carnival_corpse
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:00 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Black Sabbath ‎– Live At Last...
Anyone out there have a Power Sound 2001 version of this?

http://www.discogs.com/release/5499568



Yes, I have one for sale at Ebay right now. What do you want to know?

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:07 pm 
 

carnival_corpse wrote:
dreadmeat wrote:
Black Sabbath ‎– Live At Last...
Anyone out there have a Power Sound 2001 version of this?

http://www.discogs.com/release/5499568



Yes, I have one for sale at Ebay right now. What do you want to know?
Does your info match my copy? [shown above]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:43 am 
 

Infected ‎– Crawlspace
Anyone got an original of these?

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Infected/Crawlspace/54046
http://www.discogs.com/release/3387426
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Manalishi69
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:42 pm 
 

@androdion:

Just grabbed my Nuclear Assault Copy und let you know about the Matrix.
Not by picture, am not able to do so. But maybe the typed info can help you

IRSD42195 S8421 I MANUFACTURED BY SANYO

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androdion
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:44 pm 
 

Manalishi69 wrote:
@androdion:

Just grabbed my Nuclear Assault Copy und let you know about the Matrix.
Not by picture, am not able to do so. But maybe the typed info can help you

IRSD42195 S8421 I MANUFACTURED BY SANYO

Thanks for taking the time to post it. The thing is, I really wanted a high-res photograph to confirm if the font type was the same or not. That's pretty much the only way to tell the difference nowadays with these bootlegged to hell CDs.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:46 pm 
 

Manufactured by Sanyo? ha! I don't see that very often :p
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androdion
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:51 pm 
 

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=2499220 ;)

The copy my friend got was precisely the same, except I thought the font on the matrix was oddly irregular. Kind of written in bold letters but grainy. That pic, as good as it is though, doesn't shed the doubts that I have about it. Hence why I asked for a high-res pic to verify it.
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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:54 pm 
 

You've searched over at Ebay? you could ask sellers at Discogs for a photo or scan.
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androdion
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:42 am 
 

I know, but who's to trust nowadays? :p

People around here are often more reliable.
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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:21 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Morpheus Descends - Chronicles Of The Shadowed Ones

Any bootlegs of this floating about that you guys know of?
Apparently there was a problem with the first press and and rear cover was upside down so the second 'batch' had 2 rear inserts?! :scratch:

Some scans I was sent
http://imgur.com/a/f5wWN#0


carnival_corpse wrote:
What is the matrix number on that version of yours?

dreadmeat wrote:
I don't have it I'm looking to get it :thumbsup:

P302850-1 MORPHUS
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This arrived today, not sure what I think yet, it doesn't seem very old... I'll start investigating soon
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raph77
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:38 pm 
 

Hello,

sorry I didn't take the time to read the 26 pages before, only the first one, I saw there were fake copies of DEATH ANGEL : the ultra violence and I am planning to buy this CD.

does anyone has informations on how to make the difference between the real deal and the fake?

cheers and thanks in advance if you take the time to reply.

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:16 am 
 

Hey man, where are you buying it from, can we get a link?
I have this version: http://www.discogs.com/release/5429625
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raph77
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:46 am 
 

Hi Dreadmeat,

I was hesitating between discogs and ebay (there is an auction that ends today)

Anyway I'm gonna take my time before buying it, I've already been ripped off many times believing I could catch rare CD's for cheap but they were all counterfeits.

beware of this guy :
http://azintex-music.com/

Almost all he sells are counterfeit, very well made with correct matrix number and all, but not the real deal.
He is Russian, and sells the Cd's without jewel cases, and if you order, you will see they have never been in a jewel case...which means they are fake (the only way to make the difference, cause everything is right, including matrix number)

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:01 am 
 

You need more than correct matrix text, it has to be in the correct font and *orientation too.



* in the right place
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raph77
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:16 am 
 

I know that, but I don't always have the original to compare.

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:59 am 
 

Can you post that http://azintex-music.com/ info in the good bad traders/distro thread if it's not already there :thumbsup:

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=40274
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:42 am 
 

Morpheus Descends ‎– Chronicles Of The Shadowed Ones

Click image for full scans, it looks legit but I'm not sure which version it is :roll:
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raph77
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:22 pm 
 

@Dreadmeat : it's done.

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carnival_corpse
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:28 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Morpheus Descends ‎– Chronicles Of The Shadowed Ones

Click image for full scans, it looks legit but I'm not sure which version it is :roll:
Image


Someone changed the information on Discogs about the 2 versions of this CD and Im now confused. According to the previous information on Discogs, the first pressing of this CD has a black tray with a single sided back tray insert, just plain white in the inside. The matrix of this version is MORPHUS P302850-1. The second press is the one with the Mastered by Nimbus matrix and the vampire picture in the inside of the back tray card. Your version seems to be a combination of the 2 above.

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carnival_corpse
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:47 pm 
 

raph77 wrote:
Hello,

sorry I didn't take the time to read the 26 pages before, only the first one, I saw there were fake copies of DEATH ANGEL : the ultra violence and I am planning to buy this CD.

does anyone has informations on how to make the difference between the real deal and the fake?

cheers and thanks in advance if you take the time to reply.



Ask the seller to send you a scan of the matrix number of the version he is selling. Post the picture here and we will be able to help you. I have 2 versions of this CD in my collection, and both are legits. The matrices are:

R 73253 (V). :MASTERED: .BY NIMBUS.

WEA Mfg Olyphant Z17787 A4 P2 772548-2 01 M1S3 C1 IFPI 2U4C

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:13 pm 
 

carnival_corpse wrote:
raph77 wrote:
Hello,

sorry I didn't take the time to read the 26 pages before, only the first one, I saw there were fake copies of DEATH ANGEL : the ultra violence and I am planning to buy this CD.

does anyone has informations on how to make the difference between the real deal and the fake?

cheers and thanks in advance if you take the time to reply.



Ask the seller to send you a scan of the matrix number of the version he is selling. Post the picture here and we will be able to help you. I have 2 versions of this CD in my collection, and both are legits. The matrices are:

R 73253 (V). :MASTERED: .BY NIMBUS.

WEA Mfg Olyphant Z17787 A4 P2 772548-2 01 M1S3 C1 IFPI 2U4C


the "mastered by nimbus" version is currently for sale on ebay.I was hesitating to bid.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351025480433?ss ... 1423.l2649

I just asked him for the scan.hope he will help.thanks to you however.

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carnival_corpse
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:18 pm 
 

Quote:
Ask the seller to send you a scan of the matrix number of the version he is selling. Post the picture here and we will be able to help you. I have 2 versions of this CD in my collection, and both are legits. The matrices are:

R 73253 (V). :MASTERED: .BY NIMBUS.

WEA Mfg Olyphant Z17787 A4 P2 772548-2 01 M1S3 C1 IFPI 2U4C


Quote:
the "mastered by nimbus" version is currently for sale on ebay.I was hesitating to bid.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351025480433?ss ... 1423.l2649

I just asked him for the scan.hope he will help.thanks to you however.
[/quote][/quote]

No need for a scan. There is one on the listing, which is actually pretty good and the matrix is clearly visible. Bid with confidence. That's the real deal.

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:31 pm 
 

carnival_corpse wrote:
dreadmeat wrote:
Morpheus Descends ‎– Chronicles Of The Shadowed Ones
Click image for full scans, it looks legit but I'm not sure which version it is :roll:
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Someone changed the information on Discogs about the 2 versions of this CD and Im now confused. According to the previous information on Discogs, the first pressing of this CD has a black tray with a single sided back tray insert, just plain white in the inside. The matrix of this version is MORPHUS P302850-1. The second press is the one with the Mastered by Nimbus matrix and the vampire picture in the inside of the back tray card. Your version seems to be a combination of the 2 above.
Yeah I have no idea, I can't imagine someone would have chopped one up just to show the image correctly, I'll scour my emails again and try to decipher what's going on.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:55 am 
 

carnival_corpse wrote:
Quote:
Ask the seller to send you a scan of the matrix number of the version he is selling. Post the picture here and we will be able to help you. I have 2 versions of this CD in my collection, and both are legits. The matrices are:

R 73253 (V). :MASTERED: .BY NIMBUS.

WEA Mfg Olyphant Z17787 A4 P2 772548-2 01 M1S3 C1 IFPI 2U4C


Quote:
the "mastered by nimbus" version is currently for sale on ebay.I was hesitating to bid.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351025480433?ss ... 1423.l2649

I just asked him for the scan.hope he will help.thanks to you however.
[/quote]

No need for a scan. There is one on the listing, which is actually pretty good and the matrix is clearly visible. Bid with confidence. That's the real deal.[/quote]


I missed it.as it was an US seller and the auction ended late at night for me.I was sleepeing.next time maybe.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:33 pm 
 

Beside azintex, everyone should be very careful with two other guys on discogs - kolya3440 and apexmusic
Probably 99.99% or ever 100% bootleg sellers.
According to their feedbacks buyers are blind or totally unwise

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:25 pm 
 

drobowik wrote:
Beside azintex, everyone should be very careful with two other guys on discogs - kolya3440 and apexmusic
Probably 99.99% or ever 100% bootleg sellers.
According to their feedbacks buyers are blind or totally unwise
Can you post that in the Good Seller or Buyer / Bad Seller or Buyer Feedback Center too?
I'd include links too: http://www.discogs.com/seller/kolya3440 // http://www.discogs.com/seller/apexmusic apexmusic has feedback to prove the theory... :grumble:
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:29 pm 
 

Guys, what is the deal with some CD's with 'Mastered by Nimbus' in the ring, I mean look this Death album with matrix in different directions, first is more 'center' and second is more on the 'corner', what is the bootleg or this is normal?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:34 pm 
 

Nimbus are/were a CD pressing facility in England, way more info at Discogs: http://www.discogs.com/label/93218-Nimbus
I wouldn't worry about the orientation of that matrix, it's not relevant.

On a side note I want that CD :nods:
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:55 pm 
 

prisonerofourtime wrote:
Guys, what is the deal with some CD's with 'Mastered by Nimbus' in the ring, I mean look this Death album with matrix in different directions, first is more 'center' and second is more on the 'corner', what is the bootleg or this is normal?

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Don't look at the orientation of the matrix with respect to the outer print of the disc. Instead look for consistency between disc to disc in terms of the spacing between the matrix characters and relative position. The way these discs were manufactured, the matrix number is already there when they do the outer coating with the artwork, so the position will vary from disc to disc based on its initial position. On the two pictures you provided the characters are the same and the spacing is consistent. Both are originals.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:35 am 
 

Who have Therion/Lepaca Kliffoth - Megarock/Nuclear Blast release?

My friend want sell to me and send me this ugly pictures

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I have a doubt with my Powerslave, Somewhere in Time and Seventh Son, they are from United Kingdom/UK EMI. For example Seventh Son listed on discogs:

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=4085889

But my versions don't have ifpi anywhere. I read someday United Kingdom was founded 1993, so my discs are the first "re-press"?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:26 am 
 

travisvid wrote:
I have a doubt with my Powerslave, Somewhere in Time and Seventh Son, they are from United Kingdom/UK EMI. For example Seventh Son listed on discogs:

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=4085889

But my versions don't have ifpi anywhere. I read someday United Kingdom was founded 1993, so my discs are the first "re-press"?


No, it was 1707.
Now seriously, check your edition against one of the other of Seventh Son:

http://www.discogs.com/Iron-Maiden-Seve ... ster/19182

Possibly you have one of the earlier EMI UK releases.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:52 pm 
 

Well I take some pics (sorry quality, I'm not good take photos with phone) and some information.
Oh and this CDs come with brown jewel cases by EMI (say below 'Mafuctared by EMI')

SEVENTH SON

I:
F:PM516
UK: CDEMS 1534
Printed in UK
Barcode: 0 77779 02582 4

On disc: Made in UK
Rights Society: BIEM/MCPS
Matrix / Runout: CDP 790258 2 AR. @ 2 +
No ifpi

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SOMEWHERE IN TIME

I:
F:PM516
UK: CDEMS 1537
Printed in UK
Barcode: 0 77774 63412 0

On disc: Made in UK
Rights Society: BIEM/MCPS
Label Code: LC 0542
Matrix / Runout: 746341 2 @ 4 -1-12 (look sharp and thin maybe while was press because they see anyway in the other side) EMI SWINDON
No ifpi

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POWERSLAVE

I:
F:
UK: CDEMS 1539
Printed in UK
Barcode: 0777 746045 2 9

On disc: Made in UK
Rights Society: BIEM/MCPS
Matrix / Runout: 746045 2 @ 5 -1-12 (look sharp and thin maybe while was press because they see anyway in the other side)
No ifpi

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