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androdion
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:25 am 
 

Of course it's what mine says. :p It's just that the Mould code seems like it's written in both the top and lower layers of the inner ring, so it kind of blurs together. But from what I could tell that's pretty much it.

Mastering code and matrix are clearly visible though.
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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:32 am 
 

Well that's just groovy :thumbsup:
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SevenFaces
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:44 pm 
 

hey guys. I just bought Sepultura - Arise, RR9328-2, 1991 Roadrunner Records. So it would be first press, but the CD came sealed and completley mint, so it is probably a bootleg. The thing is that it has a correct barcode which is 168619328-2 4 as the only matrix number (besides the bar code) wich coincides with the back cover bar code. Still, there is another contradiction, since it comes with "Orgasmatron", when 1st Roadrunner Records didnt have it. Only Brasil and Japan versions did. Can you help me?

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drobowik
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:12 pm 
 

SevenFaces, looks like boot.

If you could upload some pics, especially pic of matrix, it could be much easier to conform it 100%.

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:03 am 
 

Also you're in Argentina so it could easily be a 'licensed' copy
Where did you buy it from?
The barcode as the matrix is a warning sign indeed, as drobowik says a decent set of images especially the matrix would be good.
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androdion
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:28 pm 
 

Hey Dread, I got a copy of Dahmer today that has yet another matrix. Probably a repress from the first batch of Olympic/CM stuff that came out, since the matrix is very different.

Just thought you'd like to know about it. There are way too many CD variations of that album... :oh shit:
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:10 pm 
 

androdion wrote:
Hey Dread, I got a copy of Dahmer today that has yet another matrix. Probably a repress from the first batch of Olympic/CM stuff that came out, since the matrix is very different.

Just thought you'd like to know about it. There are way too many CD variations of that album... :oh shit:
Yeah? have you added it to Discogs yet [or updated an existing one] ?
Can you put your matrix etc in here so I can see it
http://www.discogs.com/Macabre-Dahmer/master/12498

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Who has a copy of Macabre - Dahmer ?

I already have this version
http://www.discogs.com/Macabre-Dahmer/release/1197315

Matrix / Runout: RGM/CA CD237A9 OLY 0213-2 IFPI LR51
Mastering SID Code: IFPI LR51
Mould SID Code: IFPI LJ46
Other (Mould Stamp): RGM/CA


But I just added this different version
http://www.discogs.com/Macabre-Dahmer/release/5416418

Matrix / Runout: MRT/CA CD237A9 OLY 0213-2 5035-1
Mastering SID Code: none
Mould SID Code: ifpi R382
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androdion
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:15 am 
 

The version I got is identical to this one: http://www.discogs.com/Macabre-Dahmer/release/5416418

And here are its details, knock yourself out. ;)

Matrix: RCD433B1 U-TECH/CA
Mastering: IFPI LR51
Mould: IFPI LJ37
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:18 am 
 

Take look in their forums for U-TECH/CA, they came up recently
And I know what you'll be doing for the next half an hour, aye, aye! :thumbsup: :crash:
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kirkko
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:40 pm 
 

Hello, anyone know how rare my cd of Nothingface is. I know I bought the week it came out. It's this version http://www.discogs.com/Voivod-Nothingfa ... ase/378991 .

However the matrix is 112407-I4-9271-1-M.

Any info would be appreciated.

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Sebastiano340
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:21 pm 
 

hallo. can anyone help me? i've bought from ebay the re release of Assassin 'The Upcoming Terror' from axe killer...i have some doubt that it could be a fake copy. can anyone help me and give me indication how to understand if it's an official copy? thanks

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androdion
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Sebastiano340 wrote:
hallo. can anyone help me? i've bought from ebay the re release of Assassin 'The Upcoming Terror' from axe killer...i have some doubt that it could be a fake copy. can anyone help me and give me indication how to understand if it's an official copy? thanks

Photos and barcode/CAT#/matrix info would be needed for such.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:11 pm 
 

Spoiler: show
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Spoiler: show
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Sebastiano340
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:12 pm 
 

the matrix in the cd is : KDG FR-025018

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androdion
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:29 pm 
 

Holy balls, put some spoiler tags on that one will you? They're located just above the text box where you write the post.

Other than that, legit reissue. You have nothing to worry about. ;)
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Sebastiano340
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:39 pm 
 

ok. thanks a lot

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:27 pm 
 

kirkko if that's the only difference you can add your matrix as a variant
I have that version too Variant 1 was added by me

Matrix / Runout (Variant 1) : 112407-I3-9271-2-N
Matrix / Runout (Variant 2) : 112407-I4-9271-1-M

Shall we splice this thread with the CD Identification, Matrix & Bootleg Help Thread ?
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failsafeman
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:30 am 
 

Weirdly, I have a third variant - identical to the others as far as I can tell, but with a matrix of 112407-I9-9306-1-M
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Sorry, I just moved the topic about Voivod - Nothingface here without knowing it was an old one from 2012, please use this sticky in the future.

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:00 pm 
 

failsafeman wrote:
Weirdly, I have a third variant - identical to the others as far as I can tell, but with a matrix of 112407-I9-9306-1-M


Matrix / Runout (Variant 1) : 112407-I3-9271-2-N
Matrix / Runout (Variant 2) : 112407-I4-9271-1-M
Matrix / Runout (Variant 3) : 112407-I9-9306-1-M

Do it man :thumbsup:
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:17 pm 
 

Morpheus Descends - Chronicles Of The Shadowed Ones

Any bootlegs of this floating about that you guys know of?
Apparently there was a problem with the first press and and rear cover was upside down so the second 'batch' had 2 rear inserts?! :scratch:

Some scans I was sent
http://imgur.com/a/f5wWN#0
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carnival_corpse
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:53 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
Morpheus Descends - Chronicles Of The Shadowed Ones

Any bootlegs of this floating about that you guys know of?
Apparently there was a problem with the first press and and rear cover was upside down so the second 'batch' had 2 rear inserts?! :scratch:

Some scans I was sent
http://imgur.com/a/f5wWN#0


What is the matrix number on that version of yours?

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ancientorder
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:04 am 
 

Could someone post a picture of the matrix on Sarcófago's Rotting (Under One Flag press)?

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androdion
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:50 pm 
 

Does anyone have an original IRS copy of Nuclear Assault's Survive? And if anyone does, would it be too much to ask for a detailed picture of the matrix so I can check the font against a copy a friend of mine bought recently? Thanks mates. ;)
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carnival_corpse wrote:
dreadmeat wrote:
Morpheus Descends - Chronicles Of The Shadowed Ones

Any bootlegs of this floating about that you guys know of?
Apparently there was a problem with the first press and and rear cover was upside down so the second 'batch' had 2 rear inserts?! :scratch:

Some scans I was sent
http://imgur.com/a/f5wWN#0


What is the matrix number on that version of yours?

I don't have it I'm looking to get it :thumbsup:

P302850-1 MORPHUS
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carnival_corpse
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:04 am 
 

Quote:
Any bootlegs of this floating about that you guys know of?
Apparently there was a problem with the first press and and rear cover was upside down so the second 'batch' had 2 rear inserts?! :scratch:

Some scans I was sent
http://imgur.com/a/f5wWN#0


What is the matrix number on that version of yours?[/quote]
I don't have it I'm looking to get it :thumbsup:

P302850-1 MORPHUS
Image[/quote][/quote]

That matrix matches the one from my collection. This is supposedly the first press that came in a black tray CD and plain white in the inner side of the back tray insert (no vampire printing).

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Recordcollector
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:03 pm 
 

Maybe not the right place to ask, since this have nothing to do with bootlegging or anything like that, but was recently looking at my Ancient - The Cainian Chronicle and it was totally damaged by Disc Rot. This CD are made by Berlin Optical Disc (just BOD in matrix), anyone else seen this problem with the Ancient album or BOD CDs in general?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:33 pm 
 

Disc rot was something that affected a few plants and a few releases suffered from this.
Ancient - The Cainian Chronicle CDs are cheap to replace

http://www.discogs.com/release/1880695
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Black Sabbath ‎– Live At Last...
Anyone out there have a Power Sound 2001 version of this?

http://www.discogs.com/release/5499568
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dreadmeat wrote:
Black Sabbath ‎– Live At Last...
Anyone out there have a Power Sound 2001 version of this?

http://www.discogs.com/release/5499568



Yes, I have one for sale at Ebay right now. What do you want to know?

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carnival_corpse wrote:
dreadmeat wrote:
Black Sabbath ‎– Live At Last...
Anyone out there have a Power Sound 2001 version of this?

http://www.discogs.com/release/5499568



Yes, I have one for sale at Ebay right now. What do you want to know?
Does your info match my copy? [shown above]
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Infected ‎– Crawlspace
Anyone got an original of these?

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Infected/Crawlspace/54046
http://www.discogs.com/release/3387426
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Manalishi69
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:42 pm 
 

@androdion:

Just grabbed my Nuclear Assault Copy und let you know about the Matrix.
Not by picture, am not able to do so. But maybe the typed info can help you

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androdion
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:44 pm 
 

Manalishi69 wrote:
@androdion:

Just grabbed my Nuclear Assault Copy und let you know about the Matrix.
Not by picture, am not able to do so. But maybe the typed info can help you

IRSD42195 S8421 I MANUFACTURED BY SANYO

Thanks for taking the time to post it. The thing is, I really wanted a high-res photograph to confirm if the font type was the same or not. That's pretty much the only way to tell the difference nowadays with these bootlegged to hell CDs.
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Manufactured by Sanyo? ha! I don't see that very often :p
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:51 pm 
 

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=2499220 ;)

The copy my friend got was precisely the same, except I thought the font on the matrix was oddly irregular. Kind of written in bold letters but grainy. That pic, as good as it is though, doesn't shed the doubts that I have about it. Hence why I asked for a high-res pic to verify it.
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You've searched over at Ebay? you could ask sellers at Discogs for a photo or scan.
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I know, but who's to trust nowadays? :p

People around here are often more reliable.
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dreadmeat wrote:
Morpheus Descends - Chronicles Of The Shadowed Ones

Any bootlegs of this floating about that you guys know of?
Apparently there was a problem with the first press and and rear cover was upside down so the second 'batch' had 2 rear inserts?! :scratch:

Some scans I was sent
http://imgur.com/a/f5wWN#0


carnival_corpse wrote:
What is the matrix number on that version of yours?

dreadmeat wrote:
I don't have it I'm looking to get it :thumbsup:

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This arrived today, not sure what I think yet, it doesn't seem very old... I'll start investigating soon
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:38 pm 
 

Hello,

sorry I didn't take the time to read the 26 pages before, only the first one, I saw there were fake copies of DEATH ANGEL : the ultra violence and I am planning to buy this CD.

does anyone has informations on how to make the difference between the real deal and the fake?

cheers and thanks in advance if you take the time to reply.

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Hey man, where are you buying it from, can we get a link?
I have this version: http://www.discogs.com/release/5429625
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