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androdion
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:56 pm 
 

And there you go. It's hard to sound good with a waveform like that.
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DeathFog
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:03 pm 
 

According to the Dynamic Range Meter plug-in for foobar2000 (created by http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/) you get the following figures :

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foobar2000 1.1.14a / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2012-11-27 23:55:41

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Analyzed: Grand Supreme Blood Court / Bow Down Before the Blood Court
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DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
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DR4        0.00 dB    -5.11 dB      4:25 01-All Rise!
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.58 dB      3:46 02-Bow Down Before the Blood Court
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.44 dB      3:31 03-There Shall Be No Acquittance
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.97 dB      5:05 04-Veredictum Sanguis
DR3        0.00 dB    -4.15 dB      3:06 05-Behead the Defence
DR3        0.00 dB    -5.09 dB      2:13 06-Grand Justice, Grand Pain (Instrumental)
DR3        0.00 dB    -4.26 dB      4:20 07-Fed to the Boars
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.26 dB      5:07 08-Circus of Mass Torment
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.69 dB      3:05 09-Public Castration
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.16 dB      4:21 10-Piled Up for the Scavengers
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.58 dB      9:53 11-...And Thus the Billions Shall Burn
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Number of tracks:  11
Official DR value: DR4

Samplerate:        44100 Hz
Channels:          2
Bitrate:           256 kbps
Codec:             MP3
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Misfit74
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:21 pm 
 

DeathFog wrote:
According to the Dynamic Range Meter plug-in for foobar2000 (created by http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/) you get the following figures :

Spoiler: show
Code:
foobar2000 1.1.14a / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2012-11-27 23:55:41

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Analyzed: Grand Supreme Blood Court / Bow Down Before the Blood Court
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR4        0.00 dB    -5.11 dB      4:25 01-All Rise!
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.58 dB      3:46 02-Bow Down Before the Blood Court
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.44 dB      3:31 03-There Shall Be No Acquittance
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.97 dB      5:05 04-Veredictum Sanguis
DR3        0.00 dB    -4.15 dB      3:06 05-Behead the Defence
DR3        0.00 dB    -5.09 dB      2:13 06-Grand Justice, Grand Pain (Instrumental)
DR3        0.00 dB    -4.26 dB      4:20 07-Fed to the Boars
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.26 dB      5:07 08-Circus of Mass Torment
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.69 dB      3:05 09-Public Castration
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.16 dB      4:21 10-Piled Up for the Scavengers
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.58 dB      9:53 11-...And Thus the Billions Shall Burn
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of tracks:  11
Official DR value: DR4

Samplerate:        44100 Hz
Channels:          2
Bitrate:           256 kbps
Codec:             MP3
================================================================================


Question: it looks like those evals are using near 100% FLAC, not 192kbps scene rips. I think that would make a difference in the results. Also, I'd be curious to see how another band who supposedly has 'good' production what the results would be. Interesting discussion. I figure to learn a thing or two here. :)
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DisruptioN
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:44 am 
 

I'll take Last One on Earth over this any day of the week. Cannot stand the trash production on this and the recent Asphyx/HoB stuff.

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DeathFog
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:54 pm 
 

Misfit74 wrote:
DeathFog wrote:
According to the Dynamic Range Meter plug-in for foobar2000 (created by http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/) you get the following figures :

Spoiler: show
Code:
foobar2000 1.1.14a / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2012-11-27 23:55:41

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Analyzed: Grand Supreme Blood Court / Bow Down Before the Blood Court
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR4        0.00 dB    -5.11 dB      4:25 01-All Rise!
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.58 dB      3:46 02-Bow Down Before the Blood Court
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.44 dB      3:31 03-There Shall Be No Acquittance
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.97 dB      5:05 04-Veredictum Sanguis
DR3        0.00 dB    -4.15 dB      3:06 05-Behead the Defence
DR3        0.00 dB    -5.09 dB      2:13 06-Grand Justice, Grand Pain (Instrumental)
DR3        0.00 dB    -4.26 dB      4:20 07-Fed to the Boars
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.26 dB      5:07 08-Circus of Mass Torment
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.69 dB      3:05 09-Public Castration
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.16 dB      4:21 10-Piled Up for the Scavengers
DR4        0.00 dB    -4.58 dB      9:53 11-...And Thus the Billions Shall Burn
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of tracks:  11
Official DR value: DR4

Samplerate:        44100 Hz
Channels:          2
Bitrate:           256 kbps
Codec:             MP3
================================================================================


Question: it looks like those evals are using near 100% FLAC, not 192kbps scene rips. I think that would make a difference in the results. Also, I'd be curious to see how another band who supposedly has 'good' production what the results would be. Interesting discussion. I figure to learn a thing or two here. :)

Judging by the other albums I tested the differences between lossy and lossless codecs in term of dynamic range can be neglected.
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