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Pessipath
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:29 pm 
 

So the California sludge metal powerhouse has released the new album and my god it's devastatingly abrasive.
Album is pretty much this crushing mix of sludge metal and brutal death metal.
So far it's blown the rest of their albums out of the water.

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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:07 am 
 

Pessipath wrote:
mix of sludge metal and brutal death metal.

this is what happens when you take people who only listen to metal and try to get them to describe hardcore
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ShaolinLambKiller
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:21 am 
 

:nods: Yep, Mutant.

From what I've heard of this new album I like it. Sounds like the Xibalba I've always known but with some more trill picked sections and more double bass.
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Unorthodox
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:51 am 
 

MutantClannfear wrote:
Pessipath wrote:
mix of sludge metal and brutal death metal.

this is what happens when you take people who only listen to metal and try to get them to describe hardcore


Yeah, cause Minor Threat/Stray From The Path/Bane/Expire/Incendiary all sound like death metal bands with sludge influence
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Pessipath
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:30 am 
 

MutantClannfear wrote:
Pessipath wrote:
mix of sludge metal and brutal death metal.

this is what happens when you take people who only listen to metal and try to get them to describe hardcore


Translation: "I have no idea what hardcore punk is in the slightest"

Xibalba sound just like Youth of Today and Comeback Kid right?

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tomcat_ha
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:00 am 
 

Xibalba is beatdown hardcore with influences*

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theposega
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:20 am 
 

Sergeant D once referred to Xibalba as "'God of Emptiness'-core" and that's pretty much the best way to sum up their sound.

On topic, I haven't heard this but I'll probably get around to it at some point. Xibalba are cool and all, but they're far from a priority listen.
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Yayattasa
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:04 pm 
 

tomcat_ha wrote:
Xibalba is beatdown hardcore with influences*


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Wait, Xibalba is actually in the archives. I don't remember much from most of their discography, could someone tell me one of their overwhelmingly metal release?
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:15 pm 
 

Accepted based on the album Tierra y libertad.
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BastardHead
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:15 pm 
 

Pessipath wrote:
MutantClannfear wrote:
this is what happens when you take people who only listen to metal and try to get them to describe hardcore


Translation: "I have no idea what hardcore punk is in the slightest"

Xibalba sound just like Youth of Today and Comeback Kid right?


Translation: "I didn't pay any attention at all to BH's post here"

I've really only been listening to legit hardcore for like a year but even my relative noobiness isn't within a parsec of your naivete. Please educate yourself, really, it's easy.


Re: my actual thoughts on Xibalba/Tierra y libertad: It's okay, they're okay, everything is okay. I never liked the vocals and the riffs never really grab me but it's super heavy and cool to listen to every now and again. Like posega said, they're cool but not a priority listen.
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Abominatrix
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:59 pm 
 

Am I really the only one who was vaguely hoping this thread was about the Mexican black metal Xibalba?
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Jonpo
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:10 pm 
 

I knew better, only because this other Xibalba seems to be buzzing on the forums lately. I listened to the real Xibalba just the other day and they're so good. The old Bathory influence is very strong but filtered through that wonderful Mayan gimmick.
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Pessipath
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:55 pm 
 

Yayattasa wrote:
tomcat_ha wrote:
Xibalba is beatdown hardcore with influences*


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Wait, Xibalba is actually in the archives. I don't remember much from most of their discography, could someone tell me one of their overwhelmingly metal release?


Every one of their releases is metal

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Pessipath
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:58 pm 
 

BastardHead wrote:

I've really only been listening to legit hardcore for like a year but even my relative noobiness isn't within a parsec of your naivete. Please educate yourself, really, it's easy.


I have listened to it for multiple years and also realize it's a form of punk and ONLY punk.

Not my fault people misuse the hardcore punk label like hell nowadays.

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Pessipath
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:00 pm 
 

tomcat_ha wrote:
Xibalba is beatdown hardcore with influences*


*Sludge/Death with metalcore influences

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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:02 pm 
 

Pessipath wrote:
I have listened to it for multiple years and also realize it's a form of punk and ONLY punk.

Not my fault people misuse the hardcore punk label like hell nowadays.

So basically your exclusionary tastes in hardcore have caused you to miss major developments in the genre, and now you're getting mad because people are calling modern hardcore "hardcore" and you can't find a way to connect it to bands like Minor Threat. You might as well have stopped listening to metal with Welcome to Hell and then barged onto this forum to assert that Deathspell Omega are actually grindcore mixed with NWOBHM and jazz instead of black metal because they don't sound like Venom. You lack the experience needed to relate Xibalba to their actual genre and are trying to compensate with terms that nobody actually uses.
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Aeosphorus wrote:
there are post-black metal bands such as ...Sunn O.

When did we start calling Sunn O))) black metal and how soon can we stop?

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:44 pm 
 

OP has no idea what he is talking about. I should have followed my instincts and locked this as soon as it was made.
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