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ObservationSlave
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 12:16 pm 
 

According to Insomnium's Facebook page (link below), they are set to release a new album on September 23rd which features one 40-minute song. I've got to say that I definitely did not expect this, however I imagine it will sound like normal Insomnium with many songs wrapped into one. I've enjoyed each of their previous albums, so I'm excited for this one.

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narsilianshard
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 12:26 pm 
 

That sounds terrible. It's hard enough for me to sit through an Insomnium album since all their songs sound the same. Unless they do something very, very different I can't imagine this being an easy listen.
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henkkjelle
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:53 pm 
 

I'm sceptical but excited. Insomnium has been resting on their laurels since Across the Dark, doing pretty much the same thing over and over since that album. So it's nice to hear they want to shake things up on at least a conceptual level.
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Deathwish77
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:59 pm 
 

I bought the first 4 cheap based on the reviews on here and I agree that all their songs tend to blend together. It could also be that I'm not as big on the softer sounding melodic death as I used to be. Vittra on the other hand...

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tahu157
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 4:20 pm 
 

Hmm. The only similar project I've listened to is Light of Day, Day of Darkness by Green Carnation, another "one long song" album. I've heard it a few times but I honestly couldn't tell you what it sounds like. I'm afraid that's what's going to happen here.

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Evoken
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 5:13 pm 
 

I wonder if this is going to be truly 1 track on the CD or one long song broken up into a bunch of different tracks.

Either way I'm interested in hearing it, I've always liked these guys but lately their albums are a little too by-the-numbers. I'd like to hear them experiment a bit instead of pumping out similar albums all the time, so doing a 40 minute song is definitely a big change for them.

Speaking of this band, they really need to go back and remix the One for Sorrow album. That album has the most annoying production I've heard in ages and I still can't figure out why. I'm not sure if it's too much treble or what, but something about that album's recording bothers my ears. Anyone else notice this?

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OzzyApu
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:31 pm 
 

Evoken wrote:
Speaking of this band, they really need to go back and remix the One for Sorrow album. That album has the most annoying production I've heard in ages and I still can't figure out why. I'm not sure if it's too much treble or what, but something about that album's recording bothers my ears. Anyone else notice this?

Yeah, me. When I reviewed the album I was wondering why no one else mentioned it. It's the one thing that kills the album's potential, aside from the writing.

As for this 40 minute song, Edge of Sanity did it 20 years ago and it worked. Insomnium can still put out a good album so I think they have it in them.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:20 pm 
 

what are you two on about? :/

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Indecency
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:13 pm 
 

Really hope it's a gapless album like Between the Buried and Me's 'Colors' album. Otherwise, I have no desire to listen to a 40 minute song more than a couple times. I'm not gonna go panning to my favorite part of the song all the time, and I rarely can listen for 40 minutes continuously.

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TheDefiniteArticle
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:26 pm 
 

Edge of Sanity pulled it off. Edge of Sanity were a good band. Insomnium are not a good band, and accordingly will not pull it off.

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Wilytank
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 9:27 pm 
 

Indecency wrote:
Really hope it's a gapless album like Between the Buried and Me's 'Colors' album. Otherwise, I have no desire to listen to a 40 minute song more than a couple times. I'm not gonna go panning to my favorite part of the song all the time, and I rarely can listen for 40 minutes continuously.

Umm...Doesn't Colors have gaps? That's why they're split up into individual tracks.

Insomnium are a solid band, and I enjoyed Shadows of the Dying Sun. I'm interested to see how this turns out.
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 10:45 pm 
 

I've kinda been losing interest in this band for a while now...I guess I like the overall sound they've carved out for themselves but either that sound itself is kind of limited or the band has had trouble figuring out what to do to make it more interesting. A concept like this is pretty drastic (if it truly is one 40 minute song) so maybe this will be the exciting change they need to get folks like me interested in listening again.
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Paganbasque
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 2:07 am 
 

Last album was great so I have good expectations. A 40 minute song sounds quite risky,though. But perhaps as Kauan did its really a one song divided in several parts which can work.

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Indecency
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:11 pm 
 

Wilytank wrote:
Indecency wrote:
Really hope it's a gapless album like Between the Buried and Me's 'Colors' album. Otherwise, I have no desire to listen to a 40 minute song more than a couple times. I'm not gonna go panning to my favorite part of the song all the time, and I rarely can listen for 40 minutes continuously.

Umm...Doesn't Colors have gaps? That's why they're split up into individual tracks.

Insomnium are a solid band, and I enjoyed Shadows of the Dying Sun. I'm interested to see how this turns out.


Nah, there are no gaps in colors. If your music player has gapless playback, there shouldn't be any stops in the entire album.

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Purabid
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:27 pm 
 

I have always liked their longer 10 mins songs more and wanted an album full of long songs but didn't expect a one song album. This should be interesting.

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Wilytank
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:33 am 
 

Indecency wrote:

Nah, there are no gaps in colors. If your music player has gapless playback, there shouldn't be any stops in the entire album.

Wasn't your point about being able to go to a certain part? A single 40 minute song wouldn't have any gaps.
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 2:06 am 
 

I know I'm just a jackass, because my first response to this was, "Well, haven't they been writing the same song for years already so how is this somehow going to be different?"

That said, I'm going to give this a shot because I still love Insomnium and I am dead honest when I say that I listen to The Day It All Came Down in its entirety at least once every couple of days. I still crank a whole bunch of their tracks on a regular basis, too. "When the Last Wave Broke" still has an intro that gives me the completely irrational urge to bang my head no matter where I'm at, be it at home by myself or standing in line at the fucking bank.

Maybe I've just somehow gotten so curmudgeonly when it comes to metal that I've somehow looped completely around and wound up in an opposite mindset that's entirely too easy to please, but to hell with it. Bring on the funeral doom-length tracks that can contain an entire power nap within their duration. If I wind up not liking it, the Earth's core isn't going to randomly behave like a dying star and become a red giant that obliterates life as we know it. I might complain, because I've been known to do that from time to time, but I think everything will be okay in the end.

Unless the red giant thing actually happens. In which case, well, here's my last statement: I always had a crush on Harley Quinn, Slayer kind of bores me, and I am super depressed that The Prophecy was so terrible after it's third film. One might argue that it sucked after the first sequel, or indeed that it was never good, but I'm willing to give it some leeway since the forth and fifth installments were so bad and at least the third movie still had Christopher Walken. Also, fuck whoever is responsible for the Legacy of Kain never getting a proper continuation. If that is your fault, please look into the mirror and realize something: You are why the video game industry can be a complete shitfest.

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Metal_On_The_Ascendant
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 4:54 am 
 

Following in Swallow The Sun's lengthy footsteps, I see. Well, their triple album was actually quite good so Insomnium, who are the other really good doom-tinged Death Finnish band could probably pull off a 40-minute song. But seriously, what the what???

I just recently got deeply into them and I prefer their longer songs but 40 minutes does seem a bit much.

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narsilianshard
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 1:14 pm 
 

I realized I lost all interest in Insomnium when I discovered Noumena. Very similar and extremely overlooked, they and Kalmah (who just entered the studio!) are now the only Finnish melodeath acts I care about. Insomnium are far from bad, but they'll have to do something really really different to capture my attention again.
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Blizk
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 4:59 pm 
 

narsilianshard wrote:
I realized I lost all interest in Insomnium when I discovered Noumena. Very similar and extremely overlooked, they and Kalmah (who just entered the studio!) are now the only Finnish melodeath acts I care about. Insomnium are far from bad, but they'll have to do something really really different to capture my attention again.

Noumena only have one solid album (Absence), Insomnium still don't have any big chink in the armor. The similarities between these two lessened with Shadows of the Dying Sun, and Winter's Gate should make the difference even clearer.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:42 pm 
 

I actually liked Shadows of the Dying Sun a lot, but this sorta worries me. It sounds drastic, like "Oh crap people are losing interest we need to do something crazy", when really the last album showed them trying out some new ideas anyway (the blasting on "Black Heart Rebellion" and such) so it seems like they're trying some wild idea when there's no real need to. They carved out their niche and they've been essentially dominating it since day one (who comes close, Be'lakor?) and this just seems like them going massively overboard out of nowhere. I mean, I'll still listen to it, but they're not a band that throws weird curveballs like Crimson, nor have they based nearly their entire career on "Look at all the weird shit we do!" like Gorguts, so I just don't see the point.
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Blizk
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:54 pm 
 

BastardHead wrote:
It sounds drastic, like "Oh crap people are losing interest we need to do something crazy", when really the last album showed them trying out some new ideas anyway (the blasting on "Black Heart Rebellion" and such) so it seems like they're trying some wild idea when there's no real need to. They carved out their niche and they've been essentially dominating it since day one (who comes close, Be'lakor?) and this just seems like them going massively overboard out of nowhere. I mean, I'll still listen to it, but they're not a band that throws weird curveballs like Crimson, nor have they based nearly their entire career on "Look at all the weird shit we do!" like Gorguts, so I just don't see the point.

Markus talked about this one song album thing in an interview for a Finnish magazine, and apparently the idea was first tossed around before he was even in the band (to those who are not aware, he and the band are long-time friends). It would be less likely to see a release like this from Insomnium if it was 2006, the current state of music industry probably allows more artistic freedom to make this stuff a reality.

The band certainly don't need this kind of a sidestep to just regain interest. Shadows is easily their most played album on Spotify since its release.


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henkkjelle
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:56 pm 
 

BastardHead wrote:
it seems like they're trying some wild idea when there's no real need to.


Well I'm really just expecting them to release another typical but solid Insomnium album. Only this time all songs will be connected with interludes instead of just the first two tracks.....
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 6:25 pm 
 

I liked a few of Insomnium's newer albums but I'm not going to deny the lesser songs sound like filler. I have, however, heard songs spanning way over 40 minutes before that HAVE worked so it's possible that this might be good.
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oskr86
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 6:35 pm 
 

Insomnium is for me one of those bands I can trust enough to blindly buy wathever they release. Above the Weeping World, Across The Dark and One For Sorrow sound perfect to my ears, solid 10/10 albums. And like Purabid I always thought their lenghty tracks (>7 mins) were the stronger ones. That said, I have huge expectations for this new one.

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