@legionvomit

whats wrong with reissuing great albums with the cooperation of the band? as for not doing any work, you obviously dont know how putting out a record works. do you think you sit there and etch the sound into the vinyls yourself? of course there is people who do the graphic designs, layouts, mastering, printing the jackets etc for labels but the label head coordinates all that and deals with the finished product/cash/promotion. it is sort of like a producers role in a movie. dont underestimate the importance of supplying the money which you seem to look down on. that is the be all and end all. you seem bitter.

The whole "Von Music Group" thing reeks of a scam. Until some real definitive proof emerges that all this bullshit is a legitimate venture, I'm not believing a word of it, and I don't think the site should reflect the claims made by whoever is doing this. I deleted the alleged Satanic demo and added a warning to the page about updating it with VMG information.

If this is real, it's an incredibly lame and corporate-seeming way (contacting Warner, really?) to go about cashing in on the band's cult status. The guy claiming to be Veinen is completely trashing the band's name with this drama and branding crap.

NWN! is a good label. The current releases like Dead Congregation, Ignivomous, Noctural Graves, etc. are usually pretty good. I appreciate the high quality of the releases, though the obsession with packaging seems kind of superficial. Some of the "get everything done on the heaviest stock possible" mentality doesn't make sense to me. I don't care for the "die hard" trend, but I can live with it unless someone puts bonus music with the die hard version only. Then I get a bit pissed. NWN! does this rarely, though. Oh, and the "only analog is real" posturing is dumb.

- absolutely nothing. but when your labels best selling records are re-releases, it kinda says that your label is shit otherwise -


- really?!?!? i thought everytime someone bought him a bowl of duck sauce, a record would magically appear -


- of course. ...& when it rains, i think its actually a bunch of aliens pissing on us -


- all he does is pay the band, pay the record maker, the jacket maker. he doesnt really do promotion EXCEPT on his OWN forum [ ...maybe 1 or 2 others ], but thats it. he gets other people to do the layouts for him... infact, not sure if he even pays them in cash or just a copy or 2 of the release. like i already mentioned, he asks people from his forum to provie pics, interviews, etc... -


- no, not at all. i just dislike people that think just because they re-release a bands recording, they are the "end all, be all" of the metal scene. plus, his "die-hard" releases are strictly made for ebay with the extra shit in them. plus, in a way, hes basically saying "if you want this extra shit & hear the extra bonus tracks [ ie: BLASPHEMOPHAGHER ], you have to buy the diehard". what kind of bullshit is that?!?!? why not just have the bonus tracks on the regular release also?!?!? plus, he signed them because they made a song "Nuclear War Now", plus, they have a BLASPHEMYish sound -

- i think the way the finished product comes out looks great, by no means im a knocking the people that do the work there, but, fuck that yellow bastard for taking so much credit for everything & he does VERY little outside of paying the main people -

- lets see, what are his real "money makers"... BLASPHEMY, MASTERS HAMMER, MYSTIFIER, ORDER FROM CHAOS, ROOT, SARCÓFAGO, VON. hhm... all "cult" bands that he KNOWS will sell -

you sound incredibly naive but thats fine. keep on keepin on.

when the fuck did a necroblasphemickvltasfuck band start rambling on like a bunch of faggot fuckers who listen to amy winehouse and shit. If this is what you've become, then fuck off. We know you are a fake and if you aren't, then chances are Jay Z is going to be a guest on the "new album" anyway. Seriously. If it is you, let us be happy with the demos, so promptly fuck off.

i love this post on the VMG myspace:



it's just such an obvious forgery, really

yeh the "warner music group" bit is the cherry on top.

actually, i think VON is pretty overrated (though i do own a satanic blood angel diehard, yeh yeh). but i understand the influence and historical value of course.

This thread has been fairly civil so far, let's try to keep it that way.

I'm a bit confused. Who is Venien? He's not on the page at all and I can't find any evidence that there was ever any guy by that name in the band at all. Maybe I missed the discussion, but what the hell is going on?

This whole thing is nauseating. Really, this 'Von poster' seems about as fake as it can get. And why would any member of the band register an account to come on here and try to argue this obvious scam when it would be better to either give some definitive proof or to fuck off with this jewish nonsense.

On the slim chance that this is legit, it's fucking lame as hell. Seriously. Cult demo band goes corporate, eh? This reeks of someone trying to drag the band's name through the mud, more than anything.

the reek of bullshit can be smelled from miles away. the fact that some of you guys even consider buying into this shit is laughable. this von music group guy is obviously a fudge packing wigger trolling a bad joke. just let this shit die on its own.

The fact that they're holding open tryouts for the band like some kind of fucking black metal american idol just makes this all the more funnier. I wish I could get a hold of some of the tapes that idiots have probably sent in already and just laugh for days. This has got to be some of the weirdest shit Ive ever heard about a band in my life.Wow and the whole Warner Music Group thing too lol I hope they score a deal with Target soon too so we can get satanic blood beach towels and matching sun dresses.

.....and toilet seats and stair lifts . I can't say I've heard much of Von's stuff, but this facade is more transparent than... well a transparently thing. I mean why would a band who've only really released a demo about 20 years ago suddenly have contact with Warner (unless someone's been sending someone some nude polaroids , heheh sorry I've probably destroyed more of the band with that thought ). I think whoever is behind this quite a sad individual with too much time on his/hers hands or just somebody who's trying to rib Von fans.

It doesn't, actually. If something gets re-released, it's usually a well-known and popular (in the mainstream or in the underground, it doesn't really matter) band's recording, so it's rather logical that such re-releases sell much faster than new albums by obscure bands. The "multiple die-hard editions" thing is really annoying, though.

I think its hilarious that if you go look at the picture section of VMG, it says "company logo". I have a hard time processing a band like Von referring to themselves as a company.