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death234
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:37 pm 
 

Heard they where good but dont know what album to get first; any suggestions?:scratch:

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lowendmayhem
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:38 pm 
 

I like Annihilation of the Wicked the best. That's a good one to try.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:41 pm 
 

lowendmayhem wrote:
I like Annihilation of the Wicked the best. That's a good one to try.
That then In Their Darkened Shrines, then Black Seeds of Vengeance followed by their debut.

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Nyaricus
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:50 pm 
 

They only have 5 CDs + a compilation of earlier demos; I would really just suggest starting from the beginning and working your way through their discography. Everything this band does is gold; even Ithyphallic has it's moments once you get used to the album (it took me awhile).

However, if I had to point you to one album, it would certainly be 'In Their Darkened Shrines' - that album is the definition of "epic death metal"... the riffs, the feel, the atmosphere of this album drips with awesomeness. I was pretty lucky to have been introduced to Nile very early in my advance into metal.

However, be sure next time to use the death metal help thread in lieu of starting up your own thread for a minor question like this :)

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Pfuntner
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:03 pm 
 

Annihilation of the Wicked all the way. Shrines is alright, but the production really makes it difficult to enjoy.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:06 pm 
 

Annihilation for sure, it's got quite a few songs of high quality, and generally doesn't have much of the boring slow riffs that are all over everything they've done.
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PrinceofEmptiness
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:21 pm 
 

I'd also recommend Annihilation of the Wicked. For future reference though you might want to use the help threads that are for the different genres. The mods lock these kind of things a lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:01 pm 
 

Once again Annihilation of the Wicked is a good starting point.

However I feel like pointing out that the band suffers from Cannibal Corpse syndrome in the sense that you feel like they've just been continuously re-writing the same album over and over again.

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NonEsDignus
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:32 pm 
 

It's redundant at this point, but I'd recommend Annihilation of the Wicked. Honestly, In Their Darkened Shrines is a fantastic album, and may even have better songs, but Annihilation of the Wicked is more polished and generally more enjoyable to listen to.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:30 pm 
 

This should have been asked in the death metal help thread.

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Pale_Pilgrim
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:04 pm 
 

Highly recommend trying out Annihilation of the Wicked, it's fantastic. Probably their best over-all album, hands down.

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MushroomStamp
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:08 pm 
 

I've no idea why people laud the production job on Annihilation of the Wicked. The drum kit sounds like hitting cutlery against a plate (if you think the snare or the ride sound good, have your head checked ASAP), and what on earth is a bass guitar? In contrast, Shrines has one of the best drum sounds in metal, and though the guitar might be a bit buried, the riffs are still easy to pick up.
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The_spine
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:10 pm 
 

I really cant see the appeal in this band. Typical modern DM shit but with hideously obvious gimmicks.

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Nyaricus
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:14 pm 
 

The_spine wrote:
I really cant see the appeal in this band. Typical modern DM shit but with hideously obvious gimmicks.

Modern as in formed 15+ years ago? Logic as in beleiving in the flying spaghetti monster?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:19 pm 
 

Definitely grab Annihilation of the Wicked and, if you can afford it, In Their Darkened Shrines too.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:19 pm 
 

The_spine wrote:
I really cant see the appeal in this band. Typical modern DM shit but with hideously obvious gimmicks.


This. There are lots of other new death metal bands that I find to be better. Though I may try and spin one of their albums again soon, just for shits and giggles.
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The_spine
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:20 pm 
 

Nyaricus wrote:
The_spine wrote:
I really cant see the appeal in this band. Typical modern DM shit but with hideously obvious gimmicks.

Modern as in formed 15+ years ago? Logic as in beleiving in the flying spaghetti monster?


I dont mean that longevity = quality, but they do play watered down shity modern DM any way you look at it.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:37 pm 
 

The_spine wrote:
Nyaricus wrote:
The_spine wrote:
I really cant see the appeal in this band. Typical modern DM shit but with hideously obvious gimmicks.

Modern as in formed 15+ years ago? Logic as in beleiving in the flying spaghetti monster?


I dont mean that longevity = quality, but they do play watered down shity modern DM any way you look at it.


The point is that you're calling them shitty MODERN death metal despite the fact that their first album was released over ten years ago. Yeah, it's not the classic era of death metal, but you're still retarded for using a term that implies a completely different sound nowadays.

What you see as the gimmick is what I see as their strong point. It helps them stand out (in a good way).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:40 pm 
 

The_spine wrote:
Nyaricus wrote:
The_spine wrote:
I really cant see the appeal in this band. Typical modern DM shit but with hideously obvious gimmicks.

Modern as in formed 15+ years ago? Logic as in beleiving in the flying spaghetti monster?


I dont mean that longevity = quality, but they do play watered down shity modern DM any way you look at it.


Disagree. Listen to Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren Ka... definitely not watered down nor shitty.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:41 pm 
 

BastardHead wrote:
What you see as the gimmick is what I see as their strong point. It helps them stand out (in a good way).

Bah, it's not a gimmick to play technically. A gimmic is something like having a virtuoso of the violin play in your tech death band (or some other ridiculous musical element that clashes completely with your sound) and make a point to point that on stickers on album covers and also in every single review you do. However, I still can't stand that boring noise that Nile makes.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:44 pm 
 

LokiGoddess wrote:
BastardHead wrote:
What you see as the gimmick is what I see as their strong point. It helps them stand out (in a good way).

Bah, it's not a gimmick to play technically. A gimmic is something like having a virtuoso of the violin play in your tech death band (or some other ridiculous musical element that clashes completely with your sound) and make a point to point that on stickers on album covers and also in every single review you do. However, I still can't stand that boring noise that Nile makes.


I assumed the Egyptian passages and scales was the gimmick he was referring to. I have no problem with somebody disliking a band that I like, but at the very least be coherent with the argument!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:54 pm 
 

cultofkraken wrote:
Disagree. Listen to Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren Ka... definitely not watered down nor shitty.

This is the only decent album by this band. The demos are worth hearing also.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:55 pm 
 

invoked wrote:
cultofkraken wrote:
Disagree. Listen to Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren Ka... definitely not watered down nor shitty.

This is the only decent album by this band. The demos are worth hearing also.
:nods: Their Festivals of Atonement EP is quite good.
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Lord_Vile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:23 am 
 

This thread made me throw on some Nile for the first time in ages. It seems my taste in DM has changed a lot over the years. I can't really get into this.

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marktheviktor
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:34 am 
 

In Their Darkened Shrines is impressively technical but boring.

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Negru_Voda
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:52 am 
 

marktheviktor wrote:
In Their Darkened Shrines is impressively technical but boring.


Lol, songs like Sarcophagus that are heavy and atmospheric like there's no tomorrow are "boring"?

I started out with In Their Darkened Shrines because Annihilation of the Wicked wasn't out yet when I got into them, but that's an awesome album too. I think all their albums are good though, and Catacombs is probably the most impressive for its time. Stones of Sorrow is a really atmospheric song and Ramses: Bringer of War brings up images of the wheels of the pharaoh's chariot rolling over his enemies' skulls. I can say that all their first four (I haven't heard Ithyphallic) albums have something good to offer, so the chronological approach might work too.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:53 am 
 

Unas, Slayer of the Gods is a good song though.

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Nyaricus
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:02 am 
 

BastardHead wrote:
The_spine wrote:
Nyaricus wrote:
The_spine wrote:
I really cant see the appeal in this band. Typical modern DM shit but with hideously obvious gimmicks.

Modern as in formed 15+ years ago? Logic as in beleiving in the flying spaghetti monster?


I dont mean that longevity = quality, but they do play watered down shity modern DM any way you look at it.


The point is that you're calling them shitty MODERN death metal despite the fact that their first album was released over ten years ago. Yeah, it's not the classic era of death metal, but you're still retarded for using a term that implies a completely different sound nowadays.

What you see as the gimmick is what I see as their strong point. It helps them stand out (in a good way).

Thank you for grasping the concept, and not being dense like The_Spine.

And "gimmick" or no, Karl Sanders is most certainly sincerely interested in AEgyptian history and myths; personally I wouldn't call this a gimmick as it just doesn't feel like one; it's more of an expression of his interest in said subject matter.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:20 am 
 

Well I started with Ithyphallic, but you should get In Their Darkened Shrines first.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:24 am 
 

death234 wrote:
Heard they where good but dont know what album to get first; any suggestions?:scratch:


I suggest starting with "The IVth Crusade" and the "Devil Metal" live album.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:36 am 
 

Nyaricus wrote:
BastardHead wrote:
The_spine wrote:
Nyaricus wrote:
The_spine wrote:
I really cant see the appeal in this band. Typical modern DM shit but with hideously obvious gimmicks.

Modern as in formed 15+ years ago? Logic as in beleiving in the flying spaghetti monster?


I dont mean that longevity = quality, but they do play watered down shity modern DM any way you look at it.


The point is that you're calling them shitty MODERN death metal despite the fact that their first album was released over ten years ago. Yeah, it's not the classic era of death metal, but you're still retarded for using a term that implies a completely different sound nowadays.

What you see as the gimmick is what I see as their strong point. It helps them stand out (in a good way).

Thank you for grasping the concept, and not being dense like The_Spine.

And "gimmick" or no, Karl Sanders is most certainly sincerely interested in AEgyptian history and myths; personally I wouldn't call this a gimmick as it just doesn't feel like one; it's more of an expression of his interest in said subject matter.


It's too bad that most people don't understand this.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:47 am 
 

I'm really surprised at the amount of love AotW gets. It's good, but far from their best. Which would be:

Black Seeds of Vengeance

In MY opinion, it is head and shoulders above the rest. People complain about the production but I love it.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:59 am 
 

If you like relentless brutal death metal that kicks you in the balls, go for Wicked.

If you like a bit of structure and epicness in your DM, go for Shrines.

I can't say for their other albums though, I haven't listened to them yet. :( Though I've heard Ithyphallic is kinda boring. (I think)

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lord_evisceration
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:36 am 
 

All Nile albums are pretty good but there best would be In Their Darkend Shrines it has some real fucking epic moments on it.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:52 am 
 

"Festivals Of Atonement" and "Amongst The Catacombs Of Nephren-Ka" are really good, the rest is more or less marred by production and (occasionally) plenty of filler. I don't get why it's necessary to blast all the way instead of focusing on the slow, atmospheric parts.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:50 am 
 

Razakel wrote:
This should have been asked in the death metal help thread.


I didn't know you were a moderator.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:30 am 
 

I think "Black Seeds of Vengeance" and "In Their Darkened Shrines" are their best ones, in terms of songwriting, technicality, and production. I've enjoyed all their albums though, "Amongst the Catacombs" is another good one. "AOTW" has a great crystal clear sound and some excellent tracks. "Ithyphallic" blew me away at first listen and I still enjoy it now, though it isn't their best. I hope they top themselves with the next one.

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