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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:03 am 
 

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/geoff- ... available/

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"As Tate said in a recent interview, the songs that make up The Key represent the first chapter in a longer story that he envisions encompassing multiple albums... As it looks, it’s gonna take about three records to cover this story,"

Teaser/samples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?sns=fb&v=zOEL6Ic1XsI


What a crew.
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PDS
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:38 am 
 

Well, that band photo is a surreal mix of Brony neckbeards, the matrix, and the owners of the Mediterranean farmer's market on the corner of my block.
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By_Inheritance
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:50 am 
 

Sounds awful, just listen everything Tate has been involved with post-Empire.
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Turner
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:01 am 
 

Ok so first off, this IS pretty bad, and I doubt I'll even listen to the album when it comes out. BUT:

That first riff sounded like Alice in Chains - a genuinely cool grunge/doom-y riff. Otherwise it sounds like post-2000s prog, which isn't a genre I like at all, but it's still markedly better than the last QR album with Tate on it. And kinda crucially, it doesn't just sound *exactly* like a remake of Empire, as the other Queensryche's album did. I can hear a bunch of Queensryche-isms in there, but a whole heap of other stuff too. That's the mark of an artist actually trying something, not just spinning his wheels.

LOL @ Tate's boot-polish mini-mohawk and sex offender goatee, though.

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Brainded Binky
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:53 am 
 

All I can think about is Geoff Tate's questionable haircut. I swear, I can't take my eyes off that thing.

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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:58 am 
 

All the guys in that picture look like child molesters. Especially the guy on the far left with the hat and big beard - jesus, I wouldn't want to see that guy in the middle of the night.
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Zelkiiro
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:00 am 
 

Urrrrggggghhhhhh...not only is he releasing tepid slog like that, he's doing it under the good name of the best thing he's ever been involved in? What an asshole.
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Jonpo
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:20 am 
 

I cannot believe that is a USB stick on the cover. I can't believe it.
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Crick
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:31 am 
 

Am I missing something with the USB stick thing? Why's it got everyone's panties in a bunch?
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Jonpo
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:33 am 
 

Because I listen to heavy metal as a form of escapism. If you have an album titled "The Key" I expect it to be about something cooler than a fucking USB stick. Not that I was ever going to listen to this but WOW that's awful.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:42 am 
 

It's about a USB stick that helps you travel back in time and kill baby Jesus.
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Jonpo
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:44 am 
 

Hahah is it Geoff Tate fronting Nocturnus?
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true_death
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:45 am 
 

Acrobat wrote:
It's about a USB stick that helps you travel back in time and kill baby Jesus.


DIE! BY! THE! SIGN! OF! THE USB!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:00 am 
 

Crick wrote:
Am I missing something with the USB stick thing? Why's it got everyone's panties in a bunch?


Because it's ridiculous. It'd be like if Iron Maiden made an album with Eddie sitting behind a desk using a word processor to do a desk job - just kind of silly to use a classic symbol that way. Not "panties in a bunch" but come on, it's stupid.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:19 am 
 

I dunno, I guess I'm not mad because I was never attached to Queensryche, but if the album is some kinda concept story set around now-ish, or at least within a timeframe where it's reasonable that people still use USB keys, it's not that dumb. It could be an important part of the plot or something, like some dude is carrying around important information in a USB hidden inside a pendant. I mean, that sounds lame, but thats because I'm a shit writer; you can probably do something reasonably interesting with it. The music'll probably suck, but I don't see anything wrong with it from the perspective of a story/art standpoint.
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thrashinbatman
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:25 am 
 

Considering his experience in singing about technology in recent times (Hot Spot Junkie, singing about the wonders of WiFi), I can guarantee it isn't going to be something done well. Long gone are the days of the Geoff Tate that wrote NM156.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:26 pm 
 

Oh, I'm not thinking it'll be anything other than flaming ass. I just don't disagree on principle with the use of the USB key. If it were a better guy writing the story, and the band wrote fitting music to accompany it, I'd definitely be kinda intrigued. And as a design element, I don't necessarily think its inherently good or bad.

Also, so I don't just continue my streak of coming to Metal Discussion solely to comment on cover art, the music in the teaser mostly sucked. Tate's higher register feels so crap and out of place with these grungey riffs, and when they're playing anything else it's just uniformly boring.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:56 pm 
 

I'm not even gonna listen to the samples. I know they suck. I know the entire album will suck.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:01 pm 
 

I found that completely inoffensive, but you've got to hand it to the man, that's one of the worst hair-dos of all time. It will live in legends for decades to come. Unless he's a really big Ernie fan. In that case, it's totally commendable!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:09 pm 
 

Geoff looks goofy asf. He was always an ugly bastard, even when he was in Queensryche. The guy could sing tho there's no denying that. One of the greatest of all time. Too bad he sounds like shit these days.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:23 pm 
 

There are some bits in the samples that don't sound half bad. I like the parts around 2:26 and 5:18 particularly. What surprises me about this is that Tate's vocals are ever so slightly buried in the mix. I feel like they need to be pushed up just a little more. You'd think someone with his ego would see to that, unless he's actually aware of his own vocal limitations these days. The vocals aren't even bad in the samples, technically speaking, just bland. He sounds inexpressive and restrained.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:35 am 
 

Mysticaloldbard wrote:
There are some bits in the samples that don't sound half bad. I like the parts around 2:26 and 5:18 particularly.


Yeah, there he sounds quite good. I guess he can sing but his musical ideas are just too shitty. With a better songwriter he could do a fine job.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:58 am 
 

Acrobat wrote:
It's about a USB stick that helps you travel back in time and kill baby Jesus.


Can we have this album instead
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:12 am 
 

..... :ugh: no. Terrible dude, terrible musician. Couldn't be a worse idea if this was a Snowden themed album. Which I bet will come up.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:14 am 
 

PhilosophicalFrog wrote:
a Snowden themed album.

Wintersun will do it!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:48 am 
 

Empyreal wrote:
All the guys in that picture look like child molesters


Holy fucken LOL. If that doesn't kill a bands promo attempt...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:41 pm 
 

That band promo pic looks like something you'd get out of a local bar band filled with broken down old alcoholic and coke addicts. I don't know why some bands still think the "badly photoshopped over a cheesy background" approach is worth doing.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:49 am 
 

Geoff couldn't be this good at self-parody if that's what he was trying for, at least image-wise. Dear lord, that haircut. That Fleur-de-USB. Anyway, the samples are not inutterably terrible. Not enough to sell a new fan (as if anything from them could) but enough to be modestly enjoyable to a subset of Queensryche fans.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:09 am 
 

Oh my, this is just flat-out ludicrous. That promo picture is hilarious and the album cover is awful. Geoff Tate looks like a genie from Arabian Nights crossed with a Turkish rooster.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:41 am 
 

Jonpo wrote:
Hahah is it Geoff Tate fronting Nocturnus?


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Acrobat wrote:
It's about a USB stick that helps you travel back in time and kill baby Jesus.


DIE! BY! THE! SIGN! OF! THE USB!


Am I the only one thinking of Tron? Plug that USB stick and you're in Mike Davis solo jumping across all the bad notes of Tate slashing demons committing mind crimes and living off them forever.

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