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circleofdestruction
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:56 pm 
 

the_raytownian wrote:
Anyone know if they make special fine-tipped opaque pens for this purpose? Tracing onto trasparencies, I mean... That'd be perfect.

You can skip the whole transparency and emulsion shit if you get the stuff specially made for painting on the screen itself. I have a bottle of this gluey blue shit, and you put the logo under the screen itself and just trace it with the blue shit. Then you squeegee this other brown shit (the stuff that blocks ink from going through) over it, let it dry, and then the blue-painted areas wash out and will let ink through.

I mean, if you are talking about hand-drawing/painting the logos anyway.

As for making a temporary paper stencil. I've found there's no need for fixative, you just put it there and the ink will hold it while you make a few copies.

I'd post pics of my shit but I am far too lazy and never wear it much anyway.
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the_raytownian
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 1:13 am 
 

those are drawing fluid and screen filler respectively... I really need to re-read my instruction booklet about how you use the shit, because I am a fucking retard if I have been using the fluid incorrectly this whole time, which would explain a fucking lot



Anyway, tracing from paper if not the best idea in my experience as it can become stuck to the screen my the drawing fluid as it dries (though I suppose you can put a transparency between the screen and paper too).
I wish I knew where the fuck my bottle of screen filler went to, BTW... can't do much of anything without it. It seems so obvious now, the way you explained how it's used (drawing fluid, I mean)... I feel really dumb.

Filling in a logo with that stuff is fucktons easier than drawing AROUND it with the fluid, which is the retarded shit I was trying to do... and then wondering why the fluid never dried fully and got wiped away after one (or no) sorta-successful prints (that green Smiths patch was a drawing fluid one-off)...
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:20 pm 
 

So I've bought a black vest, and have a few patches on it. I also ordered a few patches for it & the front of one of my flannel shirts, so I'll post some pictures once those arrive, in the meantime, here's the back of my flannel:
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circleofdestruction
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:48 pm 
 

the_raytownian wrote:
those are drawing fluid and screen filler respectively... I really need to re-read my instruction booklet about how you use the shit, because I am a fucking retard if I have been using the fluid incorrectly this whole time, which would explain a fucking lot



Anyway, tracing from paper if not the best idea in my experience as it can become stuck to the screen my the drawing fluid as it dries (though I suppose you can put a transparency between the screen and paper too).
I wish I knew where the fuck my bottle of screen filler went to, BTW... can't do much of anything without it. It seems so obvious now, the way you explained how it's used (drawing fluid, I mean)... I feel really dumb.

Filling in a logo with that stuff is fucktons easier than drawing AROUND it with the fluid, which is the retarded shit I was trying to do... and then wondering why the fluid never dried fully and got wiped away after one (or no) sorta-successful prints (that green Smiths patch was a drawing fluid one-off)...

Agreed. And thanks for the real names, much better than my "blue shit" and "brown shit," lol. My first attempt was drawing from a vector image i made of the bride of frankenstein. I printed it out, then put it under the screen and traced with a mechanical pencil. Then I painted around it with the filler, which was harder than painting the image with the drawing fluid, but I still got a good result. I started out with a speedball starter kit, then later I ordered eight more 24" square screens from somewhere online, and used those to make patches of bands and random shit.

I gave my bottle of screen filler to some asshole who never used it and undoubtedly lost it. But yeah, you just get a fine paintbrush and do the logo, then squeegee filler over, then let it dry, then rinse out the drawing fluid.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:06 pm 
 

Damn it, I've looked everywhere for a vest and cannot find anything. I think I'm gonna finally break down and buy something online..was looking around, thinking about getting this - Will work if I just tear the sleeves off, ya?

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:59 pm 
 

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Damn it, I've looked everywhere for a vest and cannot find anything. I think I'm gonna finally break down and buy something online..was looking around, thinking about getting this - Will work if I just tear the sleeves off, ya?
hit the secondhand shops or army surplus shops [do you have them in canada?]
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Commandaunt
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:07 pm 
 

yeah, thats what I mean, I've checked around at thrift & surplus stores for a couple months now, nothing in my size and nothing that I want :/

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the_raytownian
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 12:24 am 
 

Sometimes you just get lucky. Thrift stores are a crapshoot. Sometimes you find what you need, sometimes not... Stick with it.




To me, finding, beginning, and slowly progressing on additions to a "kute" or "battle jacket" or whatever kinda gay name you wanna give to something all unique and personal and shit like that, should not be rushed... Nor should anyone "feel they need one", or be motivated by this idea to create one... But when the right jacket falls into your lap, YOU WILL KNOW.

Sometimes these things must simply wait. Having a "kewel" jacket doesn't really mean much in the grand scheme of shit, but putting time and energy into a super-special one you wear everywhere ("YOUR" jacket) is a lot of fun... Don't rush nuthin'.

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Good luck. Save your money for when you can score a cheap one though.
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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 12:54 am 
 

i reckon a flannel shirt could be a good idea, when it's hot it can be taken it off and tied around the waist, the patches will still be visible.
the bag idea is cool too apart from if it's small and can't fit many on it and/or if the venue doesn't allow bags it'd have to be put it somewhere hmmmm
i've never had patches on any of my clothing :grin:
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:07 am 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
flannel shirt


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I miss my old shirt. I wore it to literal rags... The thing was in about 8 pieces by the time I accepted I just needed to get a new shirt.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:03 am 
 

uh oh, flannel shirt derp eye combo! ha ha :lol:
but yeah that's what i'm talking about, i might buy a decent one and do this, the el cheapo chinese made ones i have now won't last
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nucleargore
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:40 am 
 

Still work in progress. The pictures are low quality. The patch on the side is Anti-Cimex "Victims of a Bomb Raid"

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The pictures are low quality. The patch on the side is Anti-Cimex "Victims of a Bomb Raid"

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Icakjell
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:00 am 
 

nucleargore wrote:
Still work in progress. The pictures are low quality. The patch on the side is Anti-Cimex "Victims of a Bomb Raid"

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The pictures are low quality. The patch on the side is Anti-Cimex "Victims of a Bomb Raid"

Where did you get that 1916 backpatch? I have been looking for one for ages.

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nucleargore
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:20 pm 
 

Icakjell wrote:
Where did you get that 1916 backpatch? I have been looking for one for ages.


It took me months to find. Asking around, searching, etc. I ended up finding it on the French eBay for 10 dollars. I love it.

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BlackMetalFarmer
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:27 pm 
 

Commandaunt wrote:
Damn it, I've looked everywhere for a vest and cannot find anything. I think I'm gonna finally break down and buy something online..was looking around, thinking about getting this - Will work if I just tear the sleeves off, ya?


http://www.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?Grp ... rchresults

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circleofdestruction
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:29 pm 
 

dreadmeat wrote:
i reckon a flannel shirt could be a good idea, when it's hot it can be taken it off and tied around the waist, the patches will still be visible.
the bag idea is cool too apart from if it's small and can't fit many on it and/or if the venue doesn't allow bags it'd have to be put it somewhere hmmmm
i've never had patches on any of my clothing :grin:

As for bags, when I was in college I had patches totally covering my backpack as well as a big canvas laptop case. I also had a couple rows of pyramid studs on the computer case, one of those big targus ones that fits all kinds of shit inside.

Since I am out of college now, I don't carry backpacks around so much these days and all my patches are on a black hoodie.
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singingtotheoldies
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:18 am 
 

First vest ever made. wanted to see what MA had to say about it.

Any feedback is much appreciated!

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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:31 am 
 

well i just looked up weekend nachos, pretty wicked shit man, but now i'm hungry dammit.
http://www.myspace.com/weekendnachos/music
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 1:19 am 
 

Weekend Nachos rule and so does that back patch and vest, but it's one that I'd expect to see on the b9.

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the_raytownian
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 1:34 am 
 

singingtotheoldies wrote:
wanted to see what MA had to say about it.


Good god, what on earth for?!




Well, to be honest, I think WN are ridiculously over-hyped and kinda lame, but the vest looks nice either way... Negative FX patch is kewl...
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:36 pm 
 

Don't know where to put it. This looks the best thread to me and it's not enough to make an entire new thread about it, but I made myself a fliphat today:
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Used a tiremarker for it. Pretty hard, because it leaks out (right word for it?) a bit. Maybe next time some textile paint?
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666Emperor666
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:41 pm 
 

No offence dude, but I think those fliphats look fucking awful ! That's only my opinion of course.

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tolerancezero666
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:45 pm 
 

Agreed. This is something an emo / hardcore kid would be wearing... but cool painting. Looks pretty much like the real logo

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:21 pm 
 

I don't want to be an emo :( There weren't emo's back in the 80ies, where this comes from...
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:24 pm 
 

Don't take our comments to your heart kid. Just wear whatever you want and don't give a fuck about negative comments.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:42 pm 
 

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Don't take our comments to your heart kid. Just wear whatever you want and don't give a fuck about negative comments.

Yep, especially when it's dumb shit like "you look like an emo".
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:15 pm 
 

FYI, emo was around in the 80s. Rites of Spring are considered to be the first emo band.
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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:19 pm 
 

fucked if i'd ever put a photo of my face online aye
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:48 pm 
 

analog_winter wrote:
So I've bought a black vest, and have a few patches on it. I also ordered a few patches for it & the front of one of my flannel shirts, so I'll post some pictures once those arrive, in the meantime, here's the back of my flannel:

You don't know how jealous I am of that Lycus backpatch.
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analog_winter
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:34 pm 
 

iAm wrote:
analog_winter wrote:
So I've bought a black vest, and have a few patches on it. I also ordered a few patches for it & the front of one of my flannel shirts, so I'll post some pictures once those arrive, in the meantime, here's the back of my flannel:

You don't know how jealous I am of that Lycus backpatch.


Haha, thanks. It's just a t-shirt cut-out, so you could try contacting the band to see if they have any shirts left if you were interested in one.
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the_raytownian
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:20 am 
 

tolerancezero666 wrote:
Agreed. This is something an emo / hardcore kid would be wearing... but cool painting. Looks pretty much like the real logo


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STUPID EMOS!!! :tongue:


Personally, I think they are kind of obnoxious as a post-80's fashion accessory-pastiche and a cliche in the "Thrash" and HC/Crossover scenes... They are almost like part of a goofy-looking uniform... but then so are patch-encrusted jackets...

It's just, every time I see a kid wearing one these days, they seem to just be screaming, "LOOK AT ME! I LIKE VINTAGE THRASH SO MUCH! SEE HOW INTO IT I AM WITH MY GOOFY, ANACHRONISTIC HEADGEAR?!!!"

Not that I have any legitimate problem with people that wear them... or mean to insult anyone who does, much less make them feel "guilty" or "dumb" for it........ so don't take my pessimistic babbling the wrong way.


PS: What the fuck is "an Emo" supposed to be? :durr:
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:28 am 
 

Jasper92 wrote:
I don't want to be an emo :( There weren't emo's back in the 80ies, where this comes from...


I'm hoping this was sarcasm, but I cannot tell for sure...
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I Am the Evil One
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:08 am 
 

I'm so confused... how do you post a picture on this

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:16 am 
 

I Am the Evil One wrote:
I'm so confused... how do you post a picture on this

Code:
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thrashmaniac87
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:53 am 
 

I have Municipal Waste and S.T. flip hats and I wore them when I was in my late teens/early 20s but now I think I'm too old for them. I feel goofy.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 3:08 am 
 

Updated my vest. I'm gonna look into getting a custom Carcass patch made to put underneath Cianide.
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BoltTheGates wrote:
Updated my vest. I'm gonna look into getting a custom Carcass patch made to put underneath Cianide.
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If you see me at MDF, feel free to say hi!


That vest looks pretty awesome! I love that Nihilist patch.
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BoltTheGates wrote:
Updated my vest. I'm gonna look into getting a custom Carcass patch made to put underneath Cianide.
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If you see me at MDF, feel free to say hi!


That Winter backpatch is awesome!
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Thanks for the kind words!

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