Encyclopaedia Metallum: The Metal Archives

Message board

* FAQ    * Search   * Register   * Login 



This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  
Author Message Previous topic | Next topic
twophoton
Metal newbie

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:25 pm
Posts: 292
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:45 pm 
 

I've been watching the HBO John Adams mini-series, and I really love the music that plays during the opening credits (plus all the slogans like "Dont tread on me" and "Join or Die"). Now, we all know about Viking metal, but I've never really been into that - maybe because, well, I'm American, not Scandinavian. So, is there anything similar to Viking metal but more relevant to battle songs from the US Revolution or Civil War era? Just a thought.
_________________
Blog: Two Photon
Last.fm: /user/brightfield


Last edited by twophoton on Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top
 Profile  
marktheviktor
Metal freak

Joined: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:41 am
Posts: 6885
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:45 pm 
 

Iced Earth. Those albums are all I can think of.

Top
 Profile  
rexxz
Retired

Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:45 pm
Posts: 8684
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:46 pm 
 

The obvious Glorious Burden by Iced Earth. It's kind of average to below-average though. I'm sure there's a lot more but I don't keep up with this sort of thing.

It's much more interesting than that viking nonsense, anyway.

Top
 Profile  
Nyaricus
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:52 pm
Posts: 1239
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:27 pm 
 

I have a song with my band entitled "Under the Bloody Banner" which is inspired by a nightmare I had as a child which involved legions of American Revolution-esque soldiers marching so loud that that was the only noise I could hear - booted feet marching in unison. Scary fucking nightmare.

----------------
Now playing: Woods of Ypres - Allure of the Earth
via FoxyTunes

Top
 Profile  
Empyreal
The Final Frontier

Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:58 pm
Posts: 18605
Location: Where the dead rule the night
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:31 pm 
 

rexxz wrote:
The obvious Glorious Burden by Iced Earth. It's really horrible. I'm sure there's a lot more but I don't keep up with this sort of thing.

It's much more interesting than that viking nonsense, anyway.


Yeah, pretty much agreed, and fixed.

I could've sworn I knew at least one other, but I think it's just that shitty album.
_________________
Cinema Freaks latest reviews: Curse of the Zodiac

Top
 Profile  
twophoton
Metal newbie

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:25 pm
Posts: 292
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:53 pm 
 

I've added a link to this YouTube video in my original post. BTW, I listened to some samples from the Iced Earth album - nope, not even close to what I am looking for.
_________________
Blog: Two Photon
Last.fm: /user/brightfield

Top
 Profile  
overkill666
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:43 pm
Posts: 1496
Location: United States
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 pm 
 

There's always that Guns and Roses song called 'Civil War'. Haha. :)
_________________
Rough and ready sludge metal from Oklahoma: http://www.facebook.com/lungbuttertulsa

Top
 Profile  
DaBuddha
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:30 pm
Posts: 1294
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:06 pm 
 

I believe Arghoslent have some songs about these things, but I'm not 100% certain.
_________________
Winds and storms embrace us now
Lay waste the light of day
Open gates to darker lands
We spread our wings and fly away

Just tell Nocturno Culto you were too busy getting stoned to burn down churches, he'll understand.
Darkthrone - My Anti-Drug

Top
 Profile  
awm
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:13 am
Posts: 1220
Location: United States
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:13 pm 
 

Viking metal is all about mythology. I don't think there is any real thematic equivalent in American history. Maybe an epic Mormon Metal retelling of Joseph Smith finding the gold tablets

Top
 Profile  
Viral
Metalhead

Joined: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:04 am
Posts: 1894
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:40 pm 
 

rexxz wrote:
The obvious Glorious Burden by Iced Earth. It's kind of average to below-average though. I'm sure there's a lot more but I don't keep up with this sort of thing.

It's much more interesting than that viking nonsense, anyway.

The majority of the album is quite bad. But the last three trilogy songs are amazing. "High Water Mark" alone was reason enough for me to buy the album. What an epic, EPIC song.

Top
 Profile  
ThrashingMad
Skanky

Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:47 pm
Posts: 2353
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:47 pm 
 

awm wrote:
Viking metal is all about mythology. I don't think there is any real thematic equivalent in American history. Maybe an epic Mormon Metal retelling of Joseph Smith finding the gold tablets


Well, it's kind of funny, because the American equivalent in some cases would be Christian Metal.

Top
 Profile  
ENKC
Veteran

Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:28 pm
Posts: 2660
Location: Australia
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:00 pm 
 

The Glorious Burden was a brilliant concept which kind of suffered from the fact of Iced Earth being involved with it. As for anything else... I don't know, Bolt Thrower? I'm out of ideas.
_________________
John_Sunlight wrote:
Gif logos are a rare and special thing. They should be reserved only for truly exceptional and rare and special and important bands, bands like Blind Guardian and... Blind Guardian. This should be in the rules.

Top
 Profile  
Hjorlejf
Metal newbie

Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:06 pm
Posts: 250
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:12 pm 
 

ThrashingMad wrote:
awm wrote:
Viking metal is all about mythology. I don't think there is any real thematic equivalent in American history. Maybe an epic Mormon Metal retelling of Joseph Smith finding the gold tablets


Well, it's kind of funny, because the American equivalent in some cases would be Christian Metal.


Interesting thought, and very true

Top
 Profile  
DrommerOmDod
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:40 am
Posts: 522
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:43 pm 
 

DaBuddha wrote:
I believe Arghoslent have some songs about these things, but I'm not 100% certain.


You'd think so, but as far as I can recall, they don't. It's pretty odd, I don't know of anything besides that Iced Earth album dealing with these topics!
_________________
SharpAndSlender, on the Big Four Tour wrote:
The last good album released by ANY of those bands is like bare minimum two decades back. This is a loud version of Antiques Roadshow.
last.fm

Top
 Profile  
The_Boss
Set Abominae

Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:45 am
Posts: 3186
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:50 pm 
 

Iced Earth's The Glorious Burden was a good album within the certain concept you're looking for, songs like Declaration Day where Ripper hits those fucking highs and then the Trilogy which lacks something and almost runs it's course for being so long but is still enjoyable.
_________________
Tantalus wrote:
I am a huge fan of The Boss - like, almost to obsession.

Top
 Profile  
juicebitch
Juice Bitch

Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:57 am
Posts: 1561
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:12 pm 
 

twophoton wrote:
I've added a link to this YouTube video in my original post. BTW, I listened to some samples from the Iced Earth album - nope, not even close to what I am looking for.


The album as a whole is damn boring, but you gotta admit that "Don't Tread on Me" is fuckin' cool.
_________________
HALBERD - death/doom featuring members of the Metal Archives !!

Full album for streaming/download: http://halberddoom.bandcamp.com/releases
Album art/updates etc: https://www.facebook.com/HalberdDoom

Top
 Profile  
twophoton
Metal newbie

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:25 pm
Posts: 292
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:32 pm 
 

I was reading reviews of the John Adams' soundtrack on Amazon, and here's one that summed up my thoughts pretty well on the opening title sequence:

Quote:
The Opening Titles track, perhaps my favorite, is an energetic and melodious blend of violins, whistles, drums and horns that has a distinctly American sound to it. Frankly, this song makes me want to start a revolution myself!


I want this, but metal.
_________________
Blog: Two Photon
Last.fm: /user/brightfield

Top
 Profile  
markoff_chaney
Metal newbie

Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:42 am
Posts: 233
Location: Australia
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:02 am 
 

awm wrote:
Viking metal is all about mythology. I don't think there is any real thematic equivalent in American history. Maybe an epic Mormon Metal retelling of Joseph Smith finding the gold tablets


I think a closer equivalent would be any songs that might exist about native American mythology. I seem to recall a thread about just that a long time ago and there was at least one band who incorporated such themes (and possibly music). I can't remember who it was though.

As for the civil war, Slave Whipping Blasphemy have a song called "Abraham Lincoln, I Fucking Hate You". But I doubt it includes any civil war era themed music.
_________________
- The Mgt.

Top
 Profile  
Galaahd
Metalhead

Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:02 pm
Posts: 607
Location: Italy
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:22 am 
 

Well, Ceremonial Castings has an album about Salem. Not American Civil War or American Revolution, but still american.

Top
 Profile  
diabolikon
Metalhead

Joined: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:33 pm
Posts: 978
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:40 pm 
 

awm wrote:
Viking metal is all about mythology. I don't think there is any real thematic equivalent in American history. Maybe an epic Mormon Metal retelling of Joseph Smith finding the gold tablets

Mormon Metal=brilliance. "Prophecy of The Polygamist!"

Top
 Profile  
Nyaricus
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:52 pm
Posts: 1239
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:03 pm 
 

Hjorlejf wrote:
ThrashingMad wrote:
awm wrote:
Viking metal is all about mythology. I don't think there is any real thematic equivalent in American history. Maybe an epic Mormon Metal retelling of Joseph Smith finding the gold tablets


Well, it's kind of funny, because the American equivalent in some cases would be Christian Metal.


Interesting thought, and very true

Someone else said this in a thread about a year ago. It was a unique thought, imo, but one which has never been done, shall we say.... tastefully.

----------------
Now playing: New Eden - Phantom of the Opera [Cover by New Eden]
via FoxyTunes

Top
 Profile  
rexxz
Retired

Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:45 pm
Posts: 8684
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:56 pm 
 

I've had the idea of doing something like that. An album of America's colonial/imperial Christian history from a secular perspective.

Top
 Profile  
EmbraceTheDeath
Metal newbie

Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:02 pm
Posts: 130
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:59 pm 
 

Arghoslent have slavery-related lyrics. Racist slavery-related lyrics. Like that matters haha

Top
 Profile  
SludgeMetalHead983
Metal newbie

Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:28 pm
Posts: 122
Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:09 pm 
 

i suggest you go make a civil war/revolutionary war band and start a new genre woo!
_________________
Quote:
Wait, was that a typo, or did you actually fuck a grill?


Quote:
Tin foil hats on!

Top
 Profile  
Star-Gazer
Trust and you'll be trusted

Joined: Fri May 14, 2004 1:21 pm
Posts: 2489
Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:17 pm 
 

Colonial Man Band

Top
 Profile  
Nyaricus
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:52 pm
Posts: 1239
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:27 pm 
 

rexxz wrote:
I've had the idea of doing something like that. An album of America's colonial/imperial Christian history from a secular perspective.

If done right, and if done well, that could be really fucking cool.

----------------
Now playing: Keep of Kalessin - Against the Gods
via FoxyTunes

Top
 Profile  
rexxz
Retired

Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:45 pm
Posts: 8684
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:29 pm 
 

Well, I only do things right and well, so it will inevitably awesome when it happens! :lol:

Top
 Profile  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Alsandair, DarknessItShallBe, jute, Manic Maniac and 21 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Back to the Encyclopaedia Metallum


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group