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Demonium1431
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:54 am 
 

Darkrthrone is just f*cking awesome. I love how they allways sound raw but, my fav album is Panzerfaust. TH is great aswell! especially Slottet I det Fjerne
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:50 am 
 

Catachthonian wrote:
Fenriz was a drug addict at the time, so go figure, as they say.
Is there a source for this ?
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Catachthonian
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:14 am 
 

I believe he said it himself in several interviews. Also, in the booklet of "Panzerfaust" (which was recorded in 1994), thanks list is entitled as "Before Fenriz Dies, He Would Like To Thank The Following", also in the booklet of "Goatlord" it's stated that Fenriz wrote all lyrics under the drugs.
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orhuns93
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:14 pm 
 

that album smells night , depression , moon . I liked it

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KKrieg
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:13 pm 
 

TH bores the absolute fuck out of me. There's absolutely no arguing that it wasn't influential and incredibly important to the development of black metal, but I find the album to be soulless, tedious and overrated.
I don't mind minimalism, I don't mind ordinary production and I don't mind repetition, but for some reason I've never felt like TH pulls these all together into one gestalt entity.
In all, it's a combination of a couple of factors that does it - for a start I have absolutely no interest in mountains, forests, moonlight or any of that mystical crap that plagues early black metal, and the constant, ridiculous praise this album gets. It's a good album with a couple of great songs, but it's not half as great as most people will have you believe.

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ThrashingMad
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:24 pm 
 

Kruel wrote:
I don't think there is anything wrong with TH's production at all. It's virtually perfect.


Abominatrix completely summed up my feelings for the production of the later two albums of Darkthrone's trilogy in his UAFM review. While it is very lo-fi, can anyone make an actual case for it being detrimental to the clarity of the sound? I doubt it.

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SepticTomb
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:30 pm 
 

You can hear everything on Transilvanian Hunger including the bass. There's nothing wrong with the production. I like it because it sounds lo-fi but not cheap.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:53 pm 
 

overrated. Yeah i really like it, the title track is great some others too but theres a track or two which makes the album drag on a little too much. i like listening to it from time to time but it can become boring fast.

Soulside journey and a blaze in the northern sky are waay better.

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Asguard
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:59 pm 
 

a band until made a cover or something that band is
Am Mondesschatten - Transilvanian Hunger (Englische Version) (Darkthrone cover) that is their song

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freezingeclipse
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:20 pm 
 

Transylvanian Hunger was one of my first black metal experiences and I still treasure those high school memories. I feel like it must be one of those albums you either understand or you do not. As simple as it is, that album must have been extremely emotionally draining for the duo to record, as it is when listened to from beginning to end. No wonder they came out with the more upbeat Panzerfaust soon after. You cannot wallow in atmosphere like Transylavian Hunger's constantly. It is a beautiful unique album that I will always cherish for the times when I need it.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:04 pm 
 

I think that's Darkthrone's best imo. It has bad production, but it adds great atmosphere, and the shrieks are amazing.


It gives me the feeling that I am on that cold mountain and I can here the vampires shrieks of pure cold hunger..

It's truly amazing.

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marktheviktor
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:40 am 
 

SepticTomb wrote:
It's one of the few sacred cow albums that I would say disliking genuinely signifies you as being pretty dumb.



You're right. And at least from the responses I am reading,I don't see many pundits knocking on it. So,I wouldn't say it's the mixed bag that the OP claims.

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Marinos
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:46 am 
 

I've only heard the first 4 Darkthrone albums, and Transylvanian hunger is excellent.

there first death metal album was very good Death Metal, lots of atmosphere and synths for its time (i wish they'd release more in this style)

Blaze in the northern sky is dark, cold and is a very solid Black metal album, not one bad song + killer intro. A great release for its time, sounds very different to what Mayhem had done earlier, a different take on black metal.

I simply don't understand under a funeral moon, my most hated album. what bothers me most is that so many people rate it very highly and rave about it, makes me feel like im missing something or not hearing it properly (hard to explain).

Transylvanian hunger is excellent, the production is a little weaker then i like, but it had a very 'natrual' feel to it, very minimilistic and raw. The repetitivness is more mesmirizing to me then anything, kinda like burzum.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:17 am 
 

marktheviktor wrote:
SepticTomb wrote:
It's one of the few sacred cow albums that I would say disliking genuinely signifies you as being pretty dumb.

You're right.

You're both totally wrong, and if anyones dumb it's you for saying such things.
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He
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:35 pm 
 

I am personally attracted to this album because of the minimalistic nature of the songs. Not something I would listen to on a regular basis, but as it is with most minimalist artists of other genres such as Philip Glass (of whom I am a huge fan), when the mood is right and I am feeling the vibe, TH can be exactly what the doctor ordered.

Not to say that Darkthrone is a "minimalist" band, but obviously TH has those tendancies.

As far as it being the best Darkthrone album, I would disagree. I personally dig Under a Funeral Moon, A Blaze in the Northern Sky and even Panzerfaust a lot more than I do TH.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:40 pm 
 

I prefer Panzerfaust to TH. But I haven't given TH enough time, listened to it once, was turned off and never listened to it again.
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He
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:46 pm 
 

MegaHassan wrote:
I prefer Panzerfaust to TH. But I haven't given TH enough time, listened to it once, was turned off and never listened to it again.


You definitely to give it some more love. Like a lot of records, you will learn to love it over time. Or maybe not - you may just never really dig it. But definitely give it more time. If you really like Panzerfaust (I do, too) - I'm willing to bet that, with enough time, you will dig TH quite a bit, too.

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TheLotusEater
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:18 pm 
 

personally, i think transilvanian hunger sucks ass

every song sounds the same and the album is just overhyped bullshit

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Expedience
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Marinos wrote:
I simply don't understand under a funeral moon, my most hated album. what bothers me most is that so many people rate it very highly and rave about it, makes me feel like im missing something or not hearing it properly (hard to explain).


Me too. I don't get UAFM at all. Maybe it's the production or guitar tone, i'm not sure. It lacks the beauty of TH, which was what hooked me onto that album.

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Catachthonian
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:03 am 
 

TheLotusEater wrote:
personally, i think transilvanian hunger sucks ass

every song sounds the same and the album is just overhyped bullshit

Nice argument.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:15 am 
 

Catachthonian wrote:
TheLotusEater wrote:
personally, i think transilvanian hunger sucks ass

every song sounds the same and the album is just overhyped bullshit

Nice argument.


He gave Bloodbath a 95%, his opinion is completely invalid.

I personally don't see how people can people the "every song sounds the same" argument, there's huge difference between tracks like Transilvanian Hunger and Skald av Satans Sol. The only songs that really have the samey feeling going are Slottet I Det Fjerne and Graven Takeheimens Saler due to their somewhat similar sounding first riffs, but even then the songs later distinguish themselves quite strongly, especially Graven Takeheimens Saler, which is just brilliant.

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_Aargh
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:08 pm 
 

Expedience wrote:
Marinos wrote:
I simply don't understand under a funeral moon, my most hated album. what bothers me most is that so many people rate it very highly and rave about it, makes me feel like im missing something or not hearing it properly (hard to explain).

Me too. I don't get UAFM at all. Maybe it's the production or guitar tone, i'm not sure. It lacks the beauty of TH, which was what hooked me onto that album.

Under a Funeral Moon is probably my favorite Norwegian black metal album of all time. It's full of brilliant riffs and the overall atmosphere is just amazing. That album sums up everything that is great about Darkthrone.

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TheLotusEater
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:11 pm 
 

Bezerko wrote:
Catachthonian wrote:
TheLotusEater wrote:
personally, i think transilvanian hunger sucks ass

every song sounds the same and the album is just overhyped bullshit

Nice argument.


He gave Bloodbath a 95%, his opinion is completely invalid.

I personally don't see how people can people the "every song sounds the same" argument, there's huge difference between tracks like Transilvanian Hunger and Skald av Satans Sol. The only songs that really have the samey feeling going are Slottet I Det Fjerne and Graven Takeheimens Saler due to their somewhat similar sounding first riffs, but even then the songs later distinguish themselves quite strongly, especially Graven Takeheimens Saler, which is just brilliant.


actually darkthrone as a band is nothing but overhyped bullshit.

every album sounds the same, soulside journey was their only non-bullshit album

and anyone that doesnt like bloodbath is either a retard or deaf

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CrippledLucifer
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:19 pm 
 

TheLotusEater wrote:
actually darkthrone as a band is nothing but overhyped bullshit.

every album sounds the same, soulside journey was their only non-bullshit album

and anyone that doesnt like bloodbath is either a retard or deaf


You should be thoroughly patronized for your obviously Jewish behavior.

(Just felt like quoting Darkthrone on that :P)

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TheLotusEater
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:22 pm 
 

CrippledLucifer wrote:
TheLotusEater wrote:
actually darkthrone as a band is nothing but overhyped bullshit.

every album sounds the same, soulside journey was their only non-bullshit album

and anyone that doesnt like bloodbath is either a retard or deaf


You should be thoroughly patronized for your obviously Jewish behavior.

(Just felt like quoting Darkthrone on that :P)


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ThrashingMad
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:05 pm 
 

TheLotusEater wrote:
actually darkthrone as a band is nothing but overhyped bullshit.

every album sounds the same, soulside journey was their only non-bullshit album

and anyone that doesnt like bloodbath is either a retard or deaf


If you can't hear the differences in sound between the albums of Darkthrone's trilogy era, then you really have no ground to be judging music as you are obviously partially or wholly deaf.

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TheLotusEater wrote:
CrippledLucifer wrote:
TheLotusEater wrote:
actually darkthrone as a band is nothing but overhyped bullshit.

every album sounds the same, soulside journey was their only non-bullshit album

and anyone that doesnt like bloodbath is either a retard or deaf


You should be thoroughly patronized for your obviously Jewish behavior.

(Just felt like quoting Darkthrone on that :P)


you should thoroughly suck my penis


Why so hostile? Darkthrone are not overrated whatsoever, they are actually pretty essential to the Norwegian BM scene back in the 90s. Soulside Journey and Transylvanian Hunger do not sound alike, nor do Under a Funeral Moon and Hate Them. Or UAFM and FOAD, or UAFM and Panzerfaust etc

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TheLotusEater
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:15 pm 
 

vashts80 wrote:
TheLotusEater wrote:
CrippledLucifer wrote:
TheLotusEater wrote:
actually darkthrone as a band is nothing but overhyped bullshit.

every album sounds the same, soulside journey was their only non-bullshit album

and anyone that doesnt like bloodbath is either a retard or deaf


You should be thoroughly patronized for your obviously Jewish behavior.

(Just felt like quoting Darkthrone on that :P)


you should thoroughly suck my penis


Why so hostile? Darkthrone are not overrated whatsoever, they are actually pretty essential to the Norwegian BM scene back in the 90s. Soulside Journey and Transylvanian Hunger do not sound alike, nor do Under a Funeral Moon and Hate Them. Or UAFM and FOAD, or UAFM and Panzerfaust etc


just because they were essential to the norwegian scene, that doesnt mean that they're good. burzum, immortal, gorgoroth, mayhem, and emperor are also overhyped but at least they are good. darkthrone is tr00 kvlt gr1m bullshit.

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TheLotusEater
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and btw, the swedish BM scene kicks the norwegian's ass

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:17 pm 
 

TheLotusEater wrote:
actually darkthrone as a band is nothing but overhyped bullshit.

Overhyped maybe. Bullshit? No.
TheLotusEater wrote:
every album sounds the same

Wrong, you seem to be deaf.
TheLotusEater wrote:
soulside journey was their only non-bullshit album

No.
TheLotusEater wrote:
anyone that doesnt like bloodbath is either a retard or deaf

I think you're the retard in here.
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TheLotusEater wrote:
just because they were essential to the norwegian scene, that doesnt mean that they're good. burzum, immortal, gorgoroth, mayhem, and emperor are also overhyped but at least they are good. darkthrone is tr00 kvlt gr1m bullshit.


You've still yet to give any reason why you don't like them other than that all their albums sound the same, which is simply wrong pure and simple.

Also Swedish black metal sucks, there are like five good bands from that country. And The Odyssey wasn't that good. God I hate everything you stand for.

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TheLotusEater wrote:
and btw, the swedish BM scene kicks the norwegian's ass


:durr:

With all the crappy ass bands that we got? :lol:

Dark Funeral?

Our bullshit depressive scene?

Tons of extremely generic bands?

Are you deaf?

In fact, the only really, really good bands we have today are Craft and a bunch of the "orthodox" ones. Ofermod, Arckanum and Funeral Mist are the only ones that come to mind at the moment.

How the hell does this beat the classic second wave bands, Aura Noir, Khold, Tsjuder, Limbonic Art, Vulture Lord, Beastcraft, Urgehal, Kvist and a whole fucking legion of other bands that emit dangerous levels of pure awesomeness?

You have to be kidding me or something...
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TheLotusEater
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Unholy_Asar wrote:
TheLotusEater wrote:
and btw, the swedish BM scene kicks the norwegian's ass


:durr:

With all the crappy ass bands that we got? :lol:

Dark Funeral?

Our bullshit depressive scene?

Tons of extremely generic bands?

Are you deaf?

In fact, the only really, really good bands we have today are Craft and a bunch of the "orthodox" ones. Ofermod, Arckanum and Funeral Mist are the only ones that come to mind at the moment.

How the hell does this beat the classic second wave bands, Aura Noir, Khold, Tsjuder, Limbonic Art, Vulture Lord, Beastcraft, Urgehal, Kvist and a whole fucking legion of other bands that emit dangerous levels of pure awesomeness?

You have to be kidding me or something...


youre "bullshit depressive scene" is the best that BM has to offer

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[quote="TheLotusEater]
youre "bullshit depressive scene" is the best that BM has to offer[/quote]



Black metal is in bad shape then.

Anyone with half an ear can tell you that everything Bloodbath does is being done 100x better by other retro-death metal bands, ones that actually focus on that, instead of it being a side-project. And from Sweden, at that.

Darkthrone not only is one of the most influential of all Norwegian BM bands, they're also one of the best. I'm sorry if you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to realize this, but without Darkthrone and Burzum, your precious depressive BM wouldn't exist

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Kruel
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Dark_Mewtwo1 wrote:
without Darkthrone and Burzum, your precious depressive BM wouldn't exist

Hey, this is actually the most poweful argument against Darkthrone I've seen in this thread!

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vashts80
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Unholy_Asar wrote:
TheLotusEater wrote:
and btw, the swedish BM scene kicks the norwegian's ass


In fact, the only really, really good bands we have today are Craft and a bunch of the "orthodox" ones. Ofermod, Arckanum and Funeral Mist are the only ones that come to mind at the moment.


I'd have to put Shining up there as well as the other bands you mentioned.. :P

Regardless, Darkthrone's first 5 albums are essential if you're a black metal fan. Not to mention the demos. eos ftlog

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:42 pm 
 

vashts80 wrote:
Unholy_Asar wrote:
TheLotusEater wrote:
and btw, the swedish BM scene kicks the norwegian's ass


In fact, the only really, really good bands we have today are Craft and a bunch of the "orthodox" ones. Ofermod, Arckanum and Funeral Mist are the only ones that come to mind at the moment.


I'd have to put Shining up there as well as the other bands you mentioned.. :P

Regardless, Darkthrone's first 5 albums are essential if you're a black metal fan. Not to mention the demos. eos ftlog


i agree. they are essential. i own all of darkthrone's albums except the most recent one. but just because its essential, it doesnt mean its good.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:43 pm 
 

Dark_Mewtwo1 wrote:
[quote="TheLotusEater]
youre "bullshit depressive scene" is the best that BM has to offer[/quote]



Black metal is in bad shape then.

Anyone with half an ear can tell you that everything Bloodbath does is being done 100x better by other retro-death metal bands, ones that actually focus on that, instead of it being a side-project. And from Sweden, at that.

Darkthrone not only is one of the most influential of all Norwegian BM bands, they're also one of the best. I'm sorry if you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to realize this, but without Darkthrone and Burzum, your precious depressive BM wouldn't exist[/quote]


burzum is a great band, darkthrone isnt even comparable

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TheLotusEater wrote:
vashts80 wrote:
Unholy_Asar wrote:
TheLotusEater wrote:
and btw, the swedish BM scene kicks the norwegian's ass


In fact, the only really, really good bands we have today are Craft and a bunch of the "orthodox" ones. Ofermod, Arckanum and Funeral Mist are the only ones that come to mind at the moment.


I'd have to put Shining up there as well as the other bands you mentioned.. :P

Regardless, Darkthrone's first 5 albums are essential if you're a black metal fan. Not to mention the demos. eos ftlog


i agree. they are essential. i own all of darkthrone's albums except the most recent one. but just because its essential, it doesnt mean its good.


transylvanian hunger is one of the defining moments in the black metal genre. eos ftlog. it is minimalism and repetition at its absolute best.

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