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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:52 am 
 

I just launched a new vlog called SWORD AND SORCERY HEAVY METAL where I talk about the connection between heavy metal music and sword-and-sorcery fiction.
https://youtu.be/mUB1rbT8JvM?si=XBWLySbLatLLgyhx

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Ace_Rimmer
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:59 am 
 

I haven't listened to a lot of your music but as a huge fan of classic S&S fiction like Conan and Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser, I will check that out. And you music as well.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:28 pm 
 

Nice. Will have to check this out later today.
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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:07 pm 
 

Ace_Rimmer wrote:
I haven't listened to a lot of your music but as a huge fan of classic S&S fiction like Conan and Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser, I will check that out. And you music as well.


Hey! Thanks for taking a look.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:08 pm 
 

metalcrypt wrote:
Nice. Will have to check this out later today.


Thanks M. Let me know what you think.

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Bronze Age
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:01 pm 
 

I look forward to seeing your Sword and Sorcery movie picks and maybe even learn about some bands I may have missed. My favorite movie of the genre is Excalibur.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:32 am 
 

Thanks for the feedback, Bronze Age! I'll do one on sword-and-sorcery movies soon.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:53 am 
 

Join me and Matthew Knight ( Cauldron Born / Eternal Winter ) as we discuss classic sword-and-sorcery fiction and heavy metal music on the new episode of SWORD AND SORCERY HEAVY METAL.
https://youtu.be/ot4IDVEOpD8?si=IWXXxe0IPxMib52m

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:31 pm 
 

I'm not much of a follower of traditions, but reading a tale by my favorite author, Robert E. Howard, while drinking a toast to the man on his birthday ( January 22, 1906 ) is to my liking. Tonight I'll be reading Howard's installment from " The Challenge From Beyond". The story is a round-robin that also includes installments written by C.L. Moore, H.P. Lovecraft, Abraham Merritt, and Frank Belknap Long. I have a bottle of Laphroaig 10 Year lined up for the occasion

Does anyone else here celebrate this tradition? If so, which story are you going to read and what are you drinking?

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tomcat_ha
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:22 pm 
 

no traditions like that for me, but thats a good reminder to read some more of his obscure work sometime soon. Went through a big sword and sorcery phase a year or 2 ago and have been slacking lately.

and with slacking i mean ofcourse that im reading something else!

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:38 am 
 

tomcat_ha wrote:
no traditions like that for me, but thats a good reminder to read some more of his obscure work sometime soon. Went through a big sword and sorcery phase a year or 2 ago and have been slacking lately.

and with slacking i mean ofcourse that im reading something else!


What have you been reading?

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MetlaNZ
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:18 am 
 

Manilla Road and Cirith Ungol got me into Robert E. Howard, H.P. Lovecraft and Michael Moorcock, late 90's early 00's, in particular the Conan and Elric stories. Metal as fuck. Everything's boxed up unfortunately. Enjoying the video's Howie, keep em coming.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:00 pm 
 

MetlaNZ wrote:
Manilla Road and Cirith Ungol got me into Robert E. Howard, H.P. Lovecraft and Michael Moorcock, late 90's early 00's, in particular the Conan and Elric stories. Metal as fuck. Everything's boxed up unfortunately. Enjoying the video's Howie, keep em coming.


Will do! Mark Shelton was an awesome guy. We had a good conversation about Howard and Lovecraft standing in front of the venue at Classic Metal Fest in 2001.

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Bronze Age
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:57 pm 
 

I don't have any traditions like that. I have Oban 14, Laphroaig 10 and Lagavulin 16 in the pantry though. The Laphroaig is kind of insane.

I am not a big reader but I have Elric of Melnibone and Stormbringer on Audible. I like the first one, I have not listened to Stormbringer yet. They offer a dramatization of Corum Book 1 Knight of the Swords that I am thinking about checking it out.

If you have any book covers with cool artwork it would be nice to see during your vids.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:04 am 
 

Bronze Age wrote:
I don't have any traditions like that. I have Oban 14, Laphroaig 10 and Lagavulin 16 in the pantry though. The Laphroaig is kind of insane.

I am not a big reader but I have Elric of Melnibone and Stormbringer on Audible. I like the first one, I have not listened to Stormbringer yet. They offer a dramatization of Corum Book 1 Knight of the Swords that I am thinking about checking it out.

If you have any book covers with cool artwork it would be nice to see during your vids.


Book covers coming up next video!

ELRIC OF MELNIBONE is a classic. The other novels making up the Elric saga are great, too. STORMBRINGER was the first one he wrote, but the last book in the saga as it was initially presented. It has some seriously trippy elements.

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tomcat_ha
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:00 pm 
 

Cauldron_Born wrote:
What have you been reading?


Sword and Sorcery wise I did recently read the 2nd part of the Dreamquest saga and no 4 of The Chronicles of Ambar. However mostly been reading more fantasy with a twist like stories like The Invisible Library series and The Cemeteries of Amalo as well as some modern weird fiction. However most of all after reading some soviet scifi and Stanislaw Lem I feel like I might get into a big scifi phase again.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:41 pm 
 

tomcat_ha wrote:
Cauldron_Born wrote:
What have you been reading?


Sword and Sorcery wise I did recently read the 2nd part of the Dreamquest saga and no 4 of The Chronicles of Ambar. However mostly been reading more fantasy with a twist like stories like The Invisible Library series and The Cemeteries of Amalo as well as some modern weird fiction. However most of all after reading some soviet scifi and Stanislaw Lem I feel like I might get into a big scifi phase again.


Hard science fiction or sword-and-planet/ space opera?

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:24 am 
 

I list my top ten classic sword-and-sorcery novels on this week's episode of SWORD AND SORCERY HEAVY METAL. How many of these have you read?
https://youtu.be/bWz0SXc7_xQ?si=VyMNlu3AuD2BJyix

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MetlaNZ
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:55 pm 
 

Another cool video Howie tho I wish you had expanded your thoughts on each one a bit more. However, you've made me hungry for this stuff and I have a list now to try and get through, if I can find em.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:42 pm 
 

MetlaNZ wrote:
Another cool video Howie tho I wish you had expanded your thoughts on each one a bit more. However, you've made me hungry for this stuff and I have a list now to try and get through, if I can find em.


Hey! Thanks for the feedback. If you have questions about any of them just let me know.

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Ace_Rimmer
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:12 pm 
 

Those Kane books are not easy to find for any reasonable price. Never read them myself but I did a search and whoa.

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Bronze Age
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:17 pm 
 

Howie, I was looking on Audible and I saw Robert E Howard's Conan the Cimmerian Barbarian that is an omnibus of Weird Tales 1-17 but then I also saw The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian that is said to be the first 13 stories in order that has Queen of the Black Coast and The Tower of the Elephant. I could not find a list of the stories for either book. If I got that Omnibus of Weird Tales or the other book would that include all of the stories that make up The Hour of the Dragon? Are these 2 books basically the same stories with one having four less stories? It is kind of confusing.

I also grabbed the The Broken Sword.


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Ace_Rimmer
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:28 pm 
 

They are also under Conan The Conqueror.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:00 am 
 

Bronze Age wrote:
Howie, I was looking on Audible and I saw Robert E Howard's Conan the Cimmerian Barbarian that is an omnibus of Weird Tales 1-17 but then I also saw The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian that is said to be the first 13 stories in order that has Queen of the Black Coast and The Tower of the Elephant. I could not find a list of the stories for either book. If I got that Omnibus of Weird Tales or the other book would that include all of the stories that make up The Hour of the Dragon? Are these 2 books basically the same stories with one having four less stories? It is kind of confusing.

I also grabbed the The Broken Sword.


I would go for THE COMING OF CONAN THE CIMMERIAN first. There are two more volumes that were published after that : THE CONQUERING SWORD OF CONAN. and THE BLOODY CROWN OF CONAN ( containing THE HOUR OF THE DRAGON novel ). If you have these three you will have every Conan story Howard wrote. These collections contain the unexpurgated texts just the way REH wrote them, plus synopses and unfinished fragments.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:05 am 
 

Ace_Rimmer wrote:
They are also under Conan The Conqueror.


The version of THE HOUR OF THE DRAGON published under the title of CONAN THE CONQUEROR has been edited. The unedited versions are in THE BLOODY CROWN OF CONAN and the Berkeley edition I show on the screen in my video.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:38 am 
 

Ace_Rimmer wrote:
Those Kane books are not easy to find for any reasonable price. Never read them myself but I did a search and whoa.


Yeah. Watching abebooks or ebay for the paperbacks is your best bet. There is a lot on ebay right now for a somewhat reasonable price, but they are beat up and it looks like one book is missing the cover.


https://www.abebooks.com/

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Ace_Rimmer
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:48 pm 
 

Cauldron_Born wrote:
Ace_Rimmer wrote:
Those Kane books are not easy to find for any reasonable price. Never read them myself but I did a search and whoa.


Yeah. Watching abebooks or ebay for the paperbacks is your best bet. There is a lot on ebay right now for a somewhat reasonable price, but they are beat up and it looks like one book is missing the cover.


https://www.abebooks.com/


Yeah, I'd probably go my least preferred route and get a kindle copy or something. I love old books but not going to pay those prices for falling apart copies.

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On_Stranger_Tides
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:04 pm 
 

Love the Kane novels. Thankfully a local library has a copy of Gods in Darkness, which has all the three in the same volume! I've since purchased Bloodstone via ebay.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:09 pm 
 

Cauldron_Born wrote:
I would go for THE COMING OF CONAN THE CIMMERIAN first. There are two more volumes that were published after that : THE CONQUERING SWORD OF CONAN. and THE BLOODY CROWN OF CONAN ( containing THE HOUR OF THE DRAGON novel ). If you have these three you will have every Conan story Howard wrote. These collections contain the unexpurgated texts just the way REH wrote them, plus synopses and unfinished fragments.


Thanks for this, I've been interested to finally check out Conan tales and this seems like an organized way to do it. What was it that was expurgated from the original versions?
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Ace_Rimmer
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:16 am 
 

Its probably heresy but my primary image of Conan is from the early Savage Sword of Conan comic magazine with art by John Buscema. Before Arnold, and before I was reading the books in the 80's that was my intro to the world of Conan. Some pretty good adaptions of the stories in the early issues and the explosive Buscema art, along with his mastery of the female form.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:21 am 
 

Ace_Rimmer wrote:
Cauldron_Born wrote:
Ace_Rimmer wrote:
Those Kane books are not easy to find for any reasonable price. Never read them myself but I did a search and whoa.


Yeah. Watching abebooks or ebay for the paperbacks is your best bet. There is a lot on ebay right now for a somewhat reasonable price, but they are beat up and it looks like one book is missing the cover.


https://www.abebooks.com/


Yeah, I'd probably go my least preferred route and get a kindle copy or something. I love old books but not going to pay those prices for falling apart copies.


I've not looked at the Kindle versions, but I've heard they were badly edited and had a lot of typos.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:28 am 
 

Under_Starmere wrote:
Cauldron_Born wrote:
I would go for THE COMING OF CONAN THE CIMMERIAN first. There are two more volumes that were published after that : THE CONQUERING SWORD OF CONAN. and THE BLOODY CROWN OF CONAN ( containing THE HOUR OF THE DRAGON novel ). If you have these three you will have every Conan story Howard wrote. These collections contain the unexpurgated texts just the way REH wrote them, plus synopses and unfinished fragments.


Thanks for this, I've been interested to finally check out Conan tales and this seems like an organized way to do it. What was it that was expurgated from the original versions?


"Offensive references" and "inconsistencies" according to L. Sprague de Camp. He even changed the title of THE HOUR OF THE DRAGON to CONAN THE CONQUERER, so Howard's original texts have been tampered with quite a bit.


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Cauldron_Born
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Ace_Rimmer wrote:
Its probably heresy but my primary image of Conan is from the early Savage Sword of Conan comic magazine with art by John Buscema. Before Arnold, and before I was reading the books in the 80's that was my intro to the world of Conan. Some pretty good adaptions of the stories in the early issues and the explosive Buscema art, along with his mastery of the female form.


THE SAVAGE SWORD OF CONAN was my gateway to the original Howard texts.

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Ace_Rimmer
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Cauldron_Born wrote:
Ace_Rimmer wrote:
Its probably heresy but my primary image of Conan is from the early Savage Sword of Conan comic magazine with art by John Buscema. Before Arnold, and before I was reading the books in the 80's that was my intro to the world of Conan. Some pretty good adaptions of the stories in the early issues and the explosive Buscema art, along with his mastery of the female form.


THE SAVAGE SWORD OF CONAN was my gateway to the original Howard texts.


Cool. That it was a Marvel magazine rather than a regular comic was great as it didn't have the comic code stuff and could be a bit more gritty compared to the regular Conan comic book.

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Cauldron_Born
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Ace_Rimmer wrote:
Cauldron_Born wrote:
Ace_Rimmer wrote:
Its probably heresy but my primary image of Conan is from the early Savage Sword of Conan comic magazine with art by John Buscema. Before Arnold, and before I was reading the books in the 80's that was my intro to the world of Conan. Some pretty good adaptions of the stories in the early issues and the explosive Buscema art, along with his mastery of the female form.


THE SAVAGE SWORD OF CONAN was my gateway to the original Howard texts.


Cool. That it was a Marvel magazine rather than a regular comic was great as it didn't have the comic code stuff and could be a bit more gritty compared to the regular Conan comic book.


Graphic violence, T & A, and weird supernatural situations! Everything a teenage boy could want.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:33 pm 
 

Join me and Petros Leptos, the vocalist for Cyprus heavy metal band, Solitary Sabred, as we discuss their new album TEMPLE OF THE SERPENT, the Greek true metal scene, sword and sorcery fiction, and more.
https://youtu.be/vVWaJYdIGZ4?si=Ti-oN_-IOQekNr7R

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Cauldron_Born wrote:
I would go for THE COMING OF CONAN THE CIMMERIAN first. There are two more volumes that were published after that : THE CONQUERING SWORD OF CONAN. and THE BLOODY CROWN OF CONAN ( containing THE HOUR OF THE DRAGON novel ). If you have these three you will have every Conan story Howard wrote. These collections contain the unexpurgated texts just the way REH wrote them, plus synopses and unfinished fragments.


Thats what I did.

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Hard science fiction or sword-and-planet/ space opera?


Most likely hard sci-fi, its been a long time since i've focused on hard sci-fi. I read a lot as kid but the first adult fiction that wasn't like Clive Cussler or Tom Clancy but something more serious/demanding/less commercial was hard sci-fi as a 14-15 year old or something like that. Got into Sword and Sorcery eventually in a round about way by getting into Lovecraft and then eventually picking up Robert E Howard and other classic pulp writers.
Space Opera has never done it for me like hard sci-fi or sword and sorcery has.

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Cauldron_Born
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:12 am 
 

tomcat_ha wrote:
Cauldron_Born wrote:
I would go for THE COMING OF CONAN THE CIMMERIAN first. There are two more volumes that were published after that : THE CONQUERING SWORD OF CONAN. and THE BLOODY CROWN OF CONAN ( containing THE HOUR OF THE DRAGON novel ). If you have these three you will have every Conan story Howard wrote. These collections contain the unexpurgated texts just the way REH wrote them, plus synopses and unfinished fragments.


Thats what I did.



Cauldron_Born wrote:
Hard science fiction or sword-and-planet/ space opera?


Most likely hard sci-fi, its been a long time since i've focused on hard sci-fi. I read a lot as kid but the first adult fiction that wasn't like Clive Cussler or Tom Clancy but something more serious/demanding/less commercial was hard sci-fi as a 14-15 year old or something like that. Got into Sword and Sorcery eventually in a round about way by getting into Lovecraft and then eventually picking up Robert E Howard and other classic pulp writers.
Space Opera has never done it for me like hard sci-fi or sword and sorcery has.


I'm mostly a sword-and-planet/space opera guy. What I do is really science fantasy. I have a sword-and-planet story appearing in CIRSOVA magazine next month.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:22 am 
 

Join me and Mark Dexter ( Marco Concoreggi ), the vocalist for heavy metal band, Dexter Ward as we talk about H.P. Lovecraft, The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, Robert E. Howard, Clark Ashton Smith, Dracula, Edgar Rice Burroughs, John Carter of Mars, Dracula, Conan vs. Kull, sword and sorcery novels vs. short fiction, sword and sorcery comic books, Battleroar, Hyrkanian Blades, USPM, Blades of Steel Festival 2024, Cauldron Born, and more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGc133vkaXk

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:54 am 
 

Join me and Matthew Knight as we discuss the Solomon Kane story "The Hills of the Dead" by Robert E. Howard. We also discuss a number of other Robert E. Howard related topics such as Conan, Kull, Cormac Fitzgeoffrey, The Grey God Passes, and various other sword-and-sorcery authors and topics such as Michael Moorcock, C.L. Moore, Michael Shea, Clark Ashton Smith, Elric, Jirel of Joiry, Nifft the Lean, Sojan the Swordsman, and more. And we, of course, talk about how all of these great works have influenced and relate to our heavy metal bands, Eternal Winter, Cauldron Born, and Briton Rites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNlMnTIlBqk

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