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TheHellstorm
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Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:18 am
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:43 am 
 

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-v ... -something
One sick fucking story... Pity, as I loved Goatlord's stuff.

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Beer Baron
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:15 am 
 

Hmmmn... sick story indeed.

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:07 am 
 

I hope they determine the motive, would at least be a nice piece of closure to know why he suddenly snapped.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:19 am 
 

That's fucking fucked.

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doomicus
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:42 pm 
 

Just recently heard about this. Quite bizarre, and I too would like to know more details. It certainly sounds like a lot of mental / psychiatric conditions were at play here.
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TheHellstorm
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:43 pm 
 

I'm just wondering how much does it have to do with the fact that Joe was running bloodshows.com for some years... Maybe it was after watching and administering so many real death stuff something clicked under the dome? Who knows... The truth is I guess forever to remain unknown.

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ShaolinLambKiller
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:00 pm 
 

Yea I saw this all yest and made the report to update his artist page. From the people that had more personal dealings.

less of what hellstorm said... more so of unstable lonely guy. most likely fixated on that woman, she didn't return his advances and well unstable man stuff happened.

Not saying that's 100% what happened but seems far more likely.
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TheHellstorm
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:11 pm 
 

YOu definitely got the point, but watching too much of violence porn still might have something to do with how he handled the lonely unstable man stuff, especially in the unstable part.

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PvtNinjer
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Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:45 am
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Location: Canada
PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:06 pm 
 

TheHellstorm wrote:
YOu definitely got the point, but watching too much of violence porn still might have something to do with how he handled the lonely unstable man stuff, especially in the unstable part.


I think when you combine that with a lonely and isolated existence, it definitely doesn't help.

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Chaosmonger
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:32 pm 
 

I mean, this guy was a real jerk

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TheTrueSeker
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:15 pm 
 

TheHellstorm wrote:
YOu definitely got the point, but watching too much of violence porn still might have something to do with how he handled the lonely unstable man stuff, especially in the unstable part.

Probably all that heavy metal and violent video gaming. I can't understand why they don't ban all that horrible stuff outright!

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Jonpo
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Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:05 am
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:55 pm 
 

I always wanted to give Goatlord a shot. Probably need to move on that before things get pricey. The crime was heinous and I feel for her surviving children. Hopefully he wrote good riffs.
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tomcat_ha
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:17 pm 
 

Goatlord made some good stuff. Kind of like Delirium but more 1st wave black metal esque.

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maggotcrusher666
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Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:56 pm
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Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:32 pm 
 

Chaosmonger wrote:
I mean, this guy was a real jerk


Best post ever.

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mark of the devil
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:10 pm 
 

So did my Goatlord LPs increase in value or what?

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AllPurposeCulturalCatgirlPutin
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:37 pm 
 

news article wrote:
The band's music consists of growls and heavy metal instrumentals.


Hehe

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WillyB
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:41 pm 
 

absolutely fucked up and my thoughts go out to her family on this. cant really have sympathy for him after pulling something like that.
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droneriot
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:13 am 
 

WillyB wrote:
absolutely fucked up and my thoughts go out to her family on this. cant really have sympathy for him after pulling something like that.

I've read that graphic novel written/drawn by a high school friend of Jeffrey Dahmer about him, and the author makes it very clear that his sympathy for Dahmer ends at the point where he started committing his crimes, but also makes it very clear how important it is for the sympathy to be there, and to look out for and help these people before the crimes are committed, and that is what once again nobody did, in Joe Frankulin's case. (Going by what little we know, at least.)
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Dhranna
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:41 am 
 

I looked at photos of this guy after reading this. It seems almost inevitable that someone who looked like that and ran a website like that would do something like that eventually.
I think it would be dishonest to say that there isn't some correlation between running a gore/snuff/porn/violence or whatever website, having that obsession and eventually seeking a way out involving extreme violence.
A very American story.
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laxskinn
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Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:12 pm
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:51 am 
 

Dhranna wrote:
I think it would be dishonest to say that there isn't some correlation between running a gore/snuff/porn/violence or whatever website, having that obsession and eventually seeking a way out involving extreme violence.

I agree. Though I think mainly it's the other way around; that people who aren't all right in the head to begin with are more likely to be drawn to that, rather than gore/snuff turning people into murderers. But it could probably be the catalyst that pushes an unstable person over the edge.

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Norrmania
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Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:42 am
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:48 am 
 

TheTrueSeker wrote:
TheHellstorm wrote:
YOu definitely got the point, but watching too much of violence porn still might have something to do with how he handled the lonely unstable man stuff, especially in the unstable part.

Probably all that heavy metal and violent video gaming. I can't understand why they don't ban all that horrible stuff outright!


There's a difference to my eyes between listening to metal and playing violent video games vs. running a site compiling videos of gruesome and real deaths from around the world. One is pure fantasy and the other is very real and there's a world of difference there. I'm not saying that everyone who watches such videos is going to go on a murder spree, not in the least. People are drawn to the extreme and morbid all the time (I say while posting on a metal forum...). But I can certainly see Hellstorm and other posters' points that running a site like that and watching such a huge amount of that sort of content while having trouble with mental illness can certainly exacerbate the situation or make a person lose touch with reality and I don't think its strange to wonder if it did in this case as well.

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TheMizwaOfMuzzyTah
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Location: the emerald forest
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:56 am 
 

Fuck this guy and fuck Goatlord. May he be raped by Goatpenis and hellfire.

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wizardsbong
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Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:14 am
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Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:58 pm 
 

Dhranna wrote:
I think it would be dishonest to say that there isn't some correlation between running a gore/snuff/porn/violence or whatever website, having that obsession and eventually seeking a way out involving extreme violence.
A very American story.


I have to whole-heartily agree with these sentiments to be honest. The degree of well-adjusted person's into the above, will definitely exist.. (gore/snuff/whatever) but similarly, plenty won't be.
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