Official press release claims this is the "first new emanation of the third era of Deathspell Omega."

So sonically speaking they consider The Furnaces of Palingenesia a part of the Si Momentum trilogy. Does this mean we're getting a new sound?

https://deathspellomega.bandcamp.com/al ... ong-defeat

Fuck yes - I wasn't as high on "The Furnaces of Palingenesia" as others, but still thought it was solid. Always excited for new DsO, though. Hopefully we get a track soon? Only 5 songs - I think that's a good sign. I tend to like their longer compositions best.

This is promising!

I don't think they consider it a part of the trilogy, but I can't help but wonder what will come next. After all, Furnaces was their first album recorded live, and the first one where they returned to do interviews. Pretty big changes all in all, but apparently not enough for them to call it the start of their 3rd era. Perhaps a radically new sound again?

I liked The Furnaces of Palingenesia. I'm interested to hear what this new sound will be.

I'm also aware that the members of this band are a bit dodgy, too, but will happily overlook it if the music is good.

It would be funny if they went down the Blood Incantation's road of ambient soundscapes. Anyway, looking forward to hear what they came up with this time.

Don't even joke like that man, my heart can't take it.

Excited for this, of course. It's DsO.

Like most people, I do not hold Mikko Aspa in high regard (from what goes around the world wide web, he's a real piece of shit human being), but I really like his vocals and this band (whose lyrics, in my opinion have nothing to do with National Socialism) is just insane.
I think by now everyone has their opinion formed on them and their dissonant / mathematical approach to black metal...

Let's see where they'll take us this time. And if the life long question of "who drums for DsO?" will finally be answered... I think not.

I keep telling people he's effectively an employee of the band and doesn't have any creative input, but nobody listens. The rest of the collective have all but openly stayed they basically hate everything he stands for but respect his vocal talent.

I agree. Everything I've read about them leads me to believe that is indeed the case.
HOWEVER... one has to argue... if someone's beliefs are TOTALLY against yours... You'd simply distance yourself from such individuals. So I reckon the other band members, while most likely not nazis or racists, they just aren't moved by his bigotry and couldn't give two shits about such subjects. That's what I think to be the case...

I'm looking forward to this since Deathspell Omega is probably my favorite metal band of all time now, but I'm very skeptical of how it will stand up to their output from Fas to Synarchy. I was honestly pretty disappointed with their last album, it has grown on me over time and I think it's alright, but it simply doesn't hold a candle to albums like Paracletus or Chaining the Katechon in my opinion. Part of what drew me into them was the massive layered sound that still left room for every instrument and nuance, as well as their impeccable songwriting. I think Furnaces lacked a lot of that, but hey, can't blame them for trying something new. DsO is one of the bands that could put out "the same" album 20 times in a row, and as long as it was the same schizophrenic acid trip that I love them for, I would buy it every goddamn time.

Wonderful news, but I won't get my hopes up like I did last time.

I like all of their releases but Kenose and Draught are my absolute favourites. I think most people believe Paracletus to be their magnum opus. I have absolutely no clue what direction they will go for this album, both musically and lyrically.

They talked about maybe moving on from the 80s-rooted production they've had for a few albums (Les Pauls and 800s), so this could be a major shift in sound. Excited to see how it plays out. I hope they've had the minerals to ditch Aspa too, the nazi cunt.

Highly doubt it. On one hand, I'd love to see them clean house, on the other hand, I do love his vocals.
Who would you like to see replace him? At the top of my head without much thinking, I believe Mortuus would be a good fit...

They could just get the vocalist of S.V.E.S.T. to do all the vocals, it's been rumoured that he's been working with the band for a while already.

Shit, for a self-proclaimed fan of the band for quite a while I know close to nothing, where you guys get all this info? Had no clue about that either... thanks for sharing!

There have been bits and pieces of info leaked from other people. I remember Tobias Forge mentioning in an interview that the guy behind Carpenter Brut told him that he produced Deathspell Omega's albums, for instance.

Ghost, Carpenter Brut and Deathspell Omega... 3 acts I'd never thought I would see mentioned together.
Well, actually, I do know Perturbator is a fan, there's a few videos of him performing live wearing a DsO t-shirt...

I'm a huge fan of Mortuus, think he's one of the best in the business. But I think it is really funny that when talking about replacing someone due to connections to Nazism you suggest another person who pretty famously was recently dinged for the same thing. But maybe that is the joke you are making, in which case that's pretty funny too.

Yes, all the French bits here and there were apparently sung by the guy from S.V.E.S.T. (Spica) and a lot of backing vocals too. People from Elend are also involved in the band (Alexandre). I don't know if switching Aspa for Mortuus would change much though...

Never got into this band aside from The Synarchy of Molten Bones for whatever reason

Hope this album changes it

[/quote]I'm a huge fan of Mortuus, think he's one of the best in the business. But I think it is really funny that when talking about replacing someone due to connections to Nazism you suggest another person who pretty famously was recently dinged for the same thing. But maybe that is the joke you are making, in which case that's pretty funny too.[/quote]

Fuck me rigid, I do live under a rock...

I just googled Mortuus and the nazi controversy and Marduk's claims and shit...
Christ, are nazis on promotion these days or something, like buy one get two kinda deal? Jesus...

Anyway, still very excited for new DsO.
Given it's only 5x tracks with a 44 minutes running time, I reckon we'll be back to longer compositions, so while not something they haven't done, it's a bit of a departure from last few records.

Also, am I the only one who thinks the artwork doesn't feel very DsO? It's not awful or anything, but it's kinda generic. When you look at Fas, Paracletus, Drought, and others, there's something that immediately screams DsO to me... this new one could belong to any current black metal band.

I think this is the first DSO album since Monumentum where the artwork was not created by Timo Ketola, as he passed two years ago. Definitly a very important aspect of the band's aesthetic that is now sadly lost.

Oh, didn't know that either... but I could immediately tell something was missing. I love his style, truly instantly recognizable. Sad to discover he passed.

I think the difference is that Aspa is pretty unambiguously connected to neo-nazi bands and such (including having RAC side projects) whereas you don't have the same amount of evidence for Mortuus.

The only major evidence we really have (that I know of) is an allegedly hacked database that was found on the internet that supposedly contains records showing he and another band member (I believe Marduk's previous drummer) bought stuff from a neo-nazi website (I believe it was the Nordic Resistance Movement) but the Swedish newspaper/tabloid that reported on it also made some really dodgy edits to their original article. They originally claimed one of the purchases was traced back to the town where one of the members was living using the IP address found in the DB, but other people looking into it checked the band's tour dates and found they played a show in Switzerland the day the purchase was supposed to have been made. IIRC the paper subsequently edited the article to change the location without issuing any sort of correction, like you would expect any paper who made a mistake would do. I remember someone brought this up in the thread for the last Marduk album.

EDIT: Yep, it was InnesI
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I'm not saying that it's not possible that Mortuus has those connections, just that there's not the same mountain of evidence.

I'll be royally pissed if it turns out Mortuus is just another nazi waste of skin because his vocals are something else, the guy is crazy good.

I know the story, I was considering the lack of a mountain of evidence when I said it'd be funny. It'd definitely be even funnier if it was confirmed, though (not Mortuus being a Nazi, just the scenario). Either way never something that would ever happen in this timeline.

Well it's technically not out of the realm of possibility, although we're talking an infinitesimal chance of that vocalist change ever happening.

Since we're going down the rabbit hole of imaginary scenarios, who here would like to see a proper full-on collaboration between DsO and Vindsval? Or DsO and Ulcerate...!!

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Has DsO gone full INCEL?













I'm just kidding. I've only started liking them on Synarchy, but loved the hell out of it and Furnaces (though I'm always wishing they'd drop their singer and go full-instrumental), so I'm quite excited to see what they've come up with this time.

EDIT: Since we're talking about the vocalists, I'll quote a private conversation I had with a friend a while ago (hope you don't mind bro) since I believe it's relevant:



And on a more (serious) analytical note, from the song titles it seems that, conceptually, this album follows Furnaces' leanings into the politics of a society's crumbling morality and the call to revolt against it.

I'll probably torrent it and give a listen, but it really truly is embarrassing that they insist on pretending it's a normal thing to work with a nazi guy who may even be a pedophile for 20 years while being "ideologically opposite". The guy is a mediocre vocalist, he apparently doesn't do the lyrics, why even continue working with him if you're ideologically opposed? It's just goofy excuses.

So why not fire him? How does that make it better? If he has no creative input and you're not a nazi then why not kick him to the curb? He's an average vocalist, what's the value? Sounds like bullshit excuses. They've worked with him for 20 years, I truly cannot believe people still swallow this crap.

Oh great, now i will have to postpone my suicide ugh...

Seriously though, this was unexpected, but welcome nonetheless.

Because the majority of listeners aren't hung up and politics and just want the riffs.

As I mentioned above, I am of the opinion that while the rest of the band probably aren't nazis and don't really care much for the ideology, it also doesn't seem to bother them; they just don't care. And they have a professional (at least) relationship with Mikko Aspa that works well, obviously, so... yeah. They are fine with it.

I hate to break it to you guys but if you're ok working with a neo-nazi pedophile for 20 years then you should be considered one as well. I just wish you guys would be a bit less gullible or just admit you're uncomfortable with introspection or criticizing your heroes.

I listened to Paracletus for the first time a while ago, and I didn't really get why it's help in such high regard. But in case OP is right about them having a new sound, I'll look out for this album.

Well... I did enjoy that ambient album...

The black metal genre literally came from edgy LARPers in the basement of a crusty record shop, whose "satanic" roleplaying escalated to real murder and arson. You can't listen to much outside of atmospheric, folk, or post black metal without accepting that the majority of these bands are either edgy kids or actual fascist dirtbags.

I don't think anyone here is uncomfortable with introspection. I would advise you to be careful when making such statements. I can only speak for myself, but not only I am not in denial of anything, as you seem to imply (in fact I did say from the beginning I think Mikko Aspa is a dirtbag), I don't really idolise anyone, in metal or otherwise, to the point of blind following.
I really enjoy the music; that's it. I'm not even big on the whole orthodox black metal thing, and that's their main message...