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Atropus
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:19 am 
 

I've never actually heard or attempted pronunciation of the Boston Celtics, because I don't watch, nor care about basketball.

I've always pronounced them "a basketball team I don't care about".....

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hakarl
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:57 am 
 

Atropus wrote:
It's unclear whether Mutiilation is pronounced "Mutilation" or "Mu-tee-lation", so I just say "Mutilation" to avoid embarrassment.

Also, I know Varg pronounces "Burzum" with a long "u" sound and a kind of weird rolled "r". Tolkein pronounces it with long u's without the rolled "r".
Me and most metalheads I know pronounce it "Berzum" out of habit, and because any English speaker would sound ridiculous saying it the way Varg does.

Gallhammer pronounce it 'buusum'. :P
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:03 am 
 

Certic Frost!
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Stone69
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:42 am 
 

Deicide as "Dee-Side" not "Dahy-side"?
Deiphagoas "Dahy-fa-go" not "Dee-fa-go"?

Which is which? :scratch:

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GuardAwakening
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:51 am 
 

Meshuggah
Vildhjarta
Woods of Ypres
Eluveitie
Malodorous
Aegaeon

I mispronounced all the bands above for years, but since then I've fixed my pronunciation for them (well...... most of them, most of the time I forget how Eluveitie is even pronounced)
But what I really hate the most is that when you pronounce something a new way, it looses its original meaning and nostalgia you once had for the band or word when you pronounced it a way once upon a time.
It's like something new to you because of finding out that you were pronouncing it wrong all along and that old pronunciation was what you held all the memories with.

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DoomMetalAlchemist
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:55 am 
 

Stone69 wrote:
Deicide as "Dee-Side" not "Dahy-side"?
Deiphagoas "Dahy-fa-go" not "Dee-fa-go"?

Which is which? :scratch:


I actually think Deicide is "Dee-ih-side." Like Deity.

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Stone69
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:59 am 
 

DoomMetalAlchemist wrote:
Stone69 wrote:
Deicide as "Dee-Side" not "Dahy-side"?
Deiphagoas "Dahy-fa-go" not "Dee-fa-go"?

Which is which? :scratch:


I actually think Deicide is "Dee-ih-side." Like Deity.


"dee-ih" for Deity make sense.

Deicide - Dee-ih-side
Deiphago - Dee-ih-fa-go

:snipe: :boo:

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Commandaunt
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:18 am 
 

EDIT: Nevermind! Apparently М8Л8ТХ's correct pronunciation is already on the band page :) .. Though when I'd talk about them with friends, I'd say something like Em-8-ull-8th so they knew it was the band with eights in their name :P.

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takar_blackangel
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:54 pm 
 

ClaymanOnFire wrote:
AnimeDad wrote:
Anaal Nathrakh

"Anal Nathrak."

It's uh-nall. Not that the correct pronunciation stopped my friends from coming up with a medical condition of the bowels.

My biggest problem is with Amesoeurs. Am-eh-sorz? Am-ee-syurs? Too many vowels :annoyed:


Amesoeurs is a mix of "âmes" (soul) and "soeurs" (sisters). Basically it's our version of "soulmates" and it's pronounced as if you were speaking both word separately:
Ahm-sir (as in "sir yes sir").

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Hah, probably the vast majority of bands with names that aren't in English or German. Alcest, Peste Noire, Les Discrets...

Al-sest
Pehs-tuh No-ar (with a non-necessary "uh" at the end)
Leh Diss-kreh


All those are of course prononunced with our weird, throaty "r" which is a bitch to articulate for English speakers.

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Sick6Six
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:18 pm 
 

Urgehal - Er Ga Hall (I think) used to say urge hall
Tsjuder - I know how to pronounce it but hate saying it.
Taake - still don't know
Astrofaes - Astro Face? haha
Drudkh - I just say it how it's spelled without the H like drud-k
Endstille - End-Still?
Förgjord ?
Paysage d'Hiver - Sounds goofy anyway you say it
Vitsaus - vit sauce
Marduk - I always call them marDUCK
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:24 pm 
 

Paysage d'hiver doesn't sound goofy at all when you know how to say it. Peh-ee-zage dee-vher
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soul_schizm
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:34 pm 
 

I would have butchered that. Even with it spelled out it sounds weird to me.

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Porman
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:37 pm 
 

Macabre.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:41 pm 
 

How do you pronounce Necromantia? I have the sinking feeling I've been butchering that one for 15+ years (e.g. neh-cro-man-tee-uh).

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:43 pm 
 

Necro-mansha?

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Porman
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:10 pm 
 

I'd go with the first one.

neh-cro-man-tee-ah

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:48 pm 
 

takar_blackangel wrote:
Al-sest


Maybe I just heard Neige wrong or I just don't understand the French accent but it sounded like 'Al-ces' when he was saying it the other night.
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Zerberus
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:07 am 
 

Metantoine wrote:
Paysage d'hiver doesn't sound goofy at all when you know how to say it. Peh-ee-zage dee-vher


I thought since it's french that it would be something more like peezage dee-vhé?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:12 am 
 

Porman wrote:
Macabre.

Took years before I found out the last syllable is silent.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:26 am 
 

Fans, including the band themselves, always pronounced Cirith in Cirith Ungol wrong.
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Zerberus
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:28 am 
 

Diamhea wrote:
Fans, including the band themselves, always pronounced Cirith in Cirith Ungol wrong.


I pronounce it Kirith Oongol. How is it actually pronounced?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:29 am 
 

Zerberus wrote:
Diamhea wrote:
Fans, including the band themselves, always pronounced Cirith in Cirith Ungol wrong.


I pronounce it Kirith Oongol. How is it actually pronounced?


You're one of the few that gets it right, most people say it as "seerith".
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droneriot
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:35 am 
 

Last time I checked their correct pronounciation was in their additional notes on this site.
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Zerberus
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:35 am 
 

Diamhea wrote:

You're one of the few that gets it right, most people say it as "seerith".


Always thought Seerith sounded cooler :(
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The_Minstrel51
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:23 am 
 

Supposedly Taake is "toh-kae".

I believe Necrophagist is "neh-kro-fay-jist".

I've always said "Drood-kh", though don't know how accurate that is.

Thrawsunblat. Is the "t" at the end silent?

For Impiety, I've heard various people say "im-PEE-uh-tee", though I believe it should be "im-PIE-uh-tee". Though I don't know how it sounds with a Singaporean accent.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:34 am 
 

I remember being surprised when I learned that the second "i" in Impetigo was supposed to be long.

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:58 am 
 

It'd sound like "petticoat" if it wasn't.
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Stone69
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:55 am 
 

The_Minstrel51 wrote:
Supposedly Taake is "toh-kae".



I;m a huge fan of this band and t's intersting to know Taake's pronunciation, how did you know? I pronounce TAAKE as "TAA-AA-KE" :scratch:

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balbulus
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:01 am 
 

People often mispronounce Anathema as "an-a-THEE-ma" instead of "an-ATH-ema". I regularly saw them supporting Cathedral back in the 90s, and Lee Dorrian would always do it.
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Stone69
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:09 am 
 

Sick6Six wrote:
Urgehal - Er Ga Hall (I think) used to say urge hall
Tsjuder - I know how to pronounce it but hate saying it.

Interested to know how to pronounce this, I vomit it as "TSYU-DER"

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Zerberus
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:13 am 
 

Stone69 wrote:
Sick6Six wrote:
Urgehal - Er Ga Hall (I think) used to say urge hall
Tsjuder - I know how to pronounce it but hate saying it.

Interested to know how to pronounce this, I vomit it as "TSYU-DER"


I'd say that's pretty spot on. As a scandinavian that's how I say it
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:17 am 
 

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Always thought Seerith sounded cooler :(


So many Tolkien words sound better with the "s-" sound; alas, the "k-" sound is almost always correct. (I still mess up Celeborn. Frequently.)

Regarding Taake, I think several people are just rendering a similar pronounciation using different letters - it's hard to write down the "aa" sound in a way that makes sense in English.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:17 am 
 

balbulus wrote:
People often mispronounce Anathema as "an-a-THEE-ma" instead of "an-ATH-ema". I regularly saw them supporting Cathedral back in the 90s, and Lee Dorrian would always do it.


I've always said it an-a-THEE-ma. I don't think I could ever get used to saying it an-ATH-ema, even if it is the correct pronunciation.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:24 am 
 

I've never understood why one would pronounce it that way. I wasn't entirely sure of the correct pronunciation for a long time, and if I was asked, I probably would've blurted out something only vaguely reminiscent of the correct one, but that one never even crossed my mind. I probably would've pronounced it an-ath-ema without the correct emphasis.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:58 am 
 

Ilwhyan wrote:
I've never understood why one would pronounce it that way.

I suppose people see the "thema" bit and think of the word "theme". I think I may have even said that way when I was younger.

Esoteric is another one I remember briefly pronouncing wrong when I was a teenager. I said it "e-SOT-e-ric" instead of "ee-so-TEH-ric"... :-)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:09 am 
 

droneriot wrote:
It'd sound like "petticoat" if it wasn't.


I always pronounced the second "i" like in the word "brick"

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:12 am 
 

I too always said Selteec Frost and Seereeth Un-goal. It just comes naturally with the French accent (do you guys say "the Kelts" referring to the Celts, too? It sounds so wrong to my ears, I'm not sure I can ever get used to that).

droneriot wrote:
I'm German, so I pretty much mispronounce anything with a "th" in it. :P

The "th" (which can actually mark up to a half-dozen completely different sounds), the "short vowels" and the whole concept of "emphasis" are fucking harsh to us Frenchies too (except for those in the South who basically sing-talk like Italians, we just say each syllable at the exact same volume). I'll just never be able to pronounce "a bit" like a native English speaker can; if I deliberately force it so it doesn't sound like "a beat", then I just end up saying "a bet" instead. :lol:

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Paysage d'hiver doesn't sound goofy at all when you know how to say it. Peh-ee-zage dee-vher

I thought since it's french that it would be something more like peezage dee-vhé?

No, since it's French, it's pronounced like Antoine said. I'd just add that the "zage" part has an A as in "cat", a silent E and no implied D in the G; but I guess that can be tough for English speakers to pronounce.

Erosion Of Humanity wrote:
takar_blackangel wrote:
Al-sest

Maybe I just heard Neige wrong or I just don't understand the French accent but it sounded like 'Al-ces' when he was saying it the other night.

You probably misheard, the T is definitely pronounced. A guy whose name is Al has a date with the second half of the word "incest", that's it.

Besides, contrary to what it says in the additional notes here and to what the guy himself might apparently claim, he obviously picked the name up from Alceste, he just removed the silent E from the original French spelling. The most obvious reference is the main character from Molière's "Le Misanthrope" which, as a Frenchman who went to school and is at least a little into metal, he knew both from studying Molière as a kid (mandatory) and from the French band Misanthrope using it in every other song's lyrics for a solid decade before he started his own project. So no, Stéphane can't really make up his own pronunciation, in this case, not without being ridiculous at least.
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takar_blackangel
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:13 am 
 

Erosion Of Humanity wrote:
takar_blackangel wrote:
Al-sest


Maybe I just heard Neige wrong or I just don't understand the French accent but it sounded like 'Al-ces' when he was saying it the other night.


The 't' will indeed fall silent most of the time, but that's solely because people are talking to fast. And aren't "ses" and "ces" pronounced the same in English (access/assess)? Or very close to one another at least?

Unless he used a hard 'c' (as in al-kes) in which case, holy crap I've been pronouncing it wrong for years even though it's my first language.

Edit: LegendMaker has a way better explanation just above, disregard my part about "kes/ces".

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hakarl
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:40 am 
 

LegendMaker wrote:
So no, Stéphane can't really make up his own pronunciation, in this case, not without being ridiculous at least.

Him? Ridiculous? Not in a million years. :roll:
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:17 am 
 

LegendMaker wrote:
I thought since it's french that it would be something more like peezage dee-vhé?

No, since it's French, it's pronounced like Antoine said. I'd just add that the "zage" part has an A as in "cat", a silent E and no implied D in the G; but I guess that can be tough for English speakers to pronounce.[/quote]

I was referring more to the d'Hiver part of the name. Perhaps you can shed some light on that? I was under the impression that an ending like -er would always be pronounced as é. I might be wrong as I didn't pay much attention in French class.
I'm not a native English speaker btw
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