HamburgerBoy wrote:
The whole fantastical/bombastic/proto-power metal thing has always been Dickinson's area, while Smith was more into writing more crunchy and accessible/pop-tinged ones.
It has been mostly Harris' area.
HamburgerBoy wrote:
Just look at the difference between Powerslave or SSOASS (both dominated by Dickinson's influence) compared to Somewhere in Time (the one with no writing from him and the most contributions from Smith).
Dianno fans complain about the change in sound between Killers and the rest of Maiden's career. They complain about the pop-tinged songs that Smith co-wrote (22 Acacia Avenue, The Prisoner). Some people have no idea that Smith's influence, not Bruce's, is behind these songs.
Again, calling on to my original intervention, I never said that Maiden's change in sound had little to do with Bruce Dickinson joining the band: I said that Bruce did not change the sound; Harris did expand on the styles he had been exploring as a result of having a more capable singer in the band, and that contributed to the band's change of sound. It's in Mick Wall's book, Martin Birch says "I simply didn't think [former vocalist Paul Di'Anno] was capable of handling lead vocals on some of the quite complicated directions I knew
Steve wanted to explore... When Bruce joined, it opened up the possibilities for the new album tremendously".
Iommi says something similar in his autobiography; when Ozzy was in the band, Iommi knew that there were certain things he could not do with Sabbath; Ozzy would not be able to sing in a different style. When Dio joined Sabbath, one could say Dio changed the sound a bit (in addition to Iommi changing the sound now having a singer like Dio); because when you compare Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules with some of the Rainbow stuff you can hear some similarities in the direction. But Samson doesn't sound much like the direction that Maiden would take with Bruce.
Hence I would not say that Bruce changed the band's sound on Number of the Beast, but Harris as a songwriter did, and Adrian Smith also did, both in different ways. The sound evolved in time and yes, when Dickinson started writing his own songs he contributed further to the evolution of Maiden. But usually it's the Smith songs which Dianno fans are quicker to make fun of, and it's probably easier for them to think that Bruce is the sell-out in the band who wanted to make them commercial. While it's more complex than that.
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Celestial Season really changed when Sonic Orb came out. I was immediately disappointed with this EP and though I found some of their later releases were enjoyable, I think Solar Lovers (1995), their second album, was and still is their best. It is relatively soft, and contains much more violin than their contemporaries, but I have a soft spot for this album. It was quite a change in a small amount of time from pseudo-symphonic doom metal to barely psychedelic rock; I bought Sonic Orbin 1996 and it was a completely different vibe. Only the singer had changed.
Other doom bands who ended up doing something different, like Anathema, My Dying Bride, had more of a gradual shift. Celestial Season's was overnight.