t1337Dude wrote:
It's not like I seek bands that sound exclusively like Iron Maiden either. They're simply my preference. Maybe Judas Priest had blatantly more influence on speed metal - but really, how much of metal being released these days is speed metal?
But if we were to pointlessly argue about influence, I'm not really seeing anyone make any compelling arguments about why they think Judas Priest is more influential other than they influenced Iron Maiden themselves and were extremely popular at the time.
I was thinking of influence in terms of important metal bands in operation now, not really how many Judas Priest rip-offs were inspired back in the 80's. Regardless, you're right, definitely not the best way. I'd argue influence as a whole is immeasurable. But I think it's equally ridiculous to deny correlation between influence and song covers. It's plain as day there's some correlation, despite it being trivial. And while it's not a real measure of influence in any way, it at least an objective number (whatever that may be). Is it possible for a band to have been more influenced by Priest, yet only covered an Iron Maiden song? Sure, but I can't imagine it being a significant factor - if anything sounds like a self-serving counter-argument to make. You say Judas Priest likely had more influence than Iron Maiden - so I thought it'd be fair to expect at least an equal amount of tribute songs, but I haven't seen many at all. Maybe other people's metal collection is filled with more Judas Priest worship, because somehow my collection unintentionally ended up being filled with Iron Maiden worship and completely light on Judas Priest worship. I really like Judas Priest, just to a lesser extent, so it's not like I try to avoid bands that may somehow be blatantly inspired by Judas Priest. I've got infinite amounts of exploring into other genres left to do.
Well, sure, cover songs are a way for a band to show what older bands they like or which inspired them to start making music, you're right about that. I just think you're sort of tossing genres like power metal or traditional metal to the side because you don't listen to them as much. Who said "Judas Priest rip-offs"? I mean any 80s metal band, period - you can hear Priest inspired riffing, solos, tempos, vocal lines, etc., not to mention image. They were hugely influential, and in the late 90s and early 2000s there was another tremendous surge of Germanic and Swedish bands - as big as Hammerfall, Iron Savior, Paragon, etc, who are not small names - who took a lot of influence from Priest. Painkiller alone was like an amphetamine shot in the arm for the entire genre of power metal - bands like Gamma Ray and Hibria would spend years trying to do the same thing, as would many lesser known bands.
There could be less modern death and black metal influenced by Priest, but when you look at the biggest bands in those genres who actually matter (dissonant DDR stuff, technical stuff, etc), Maiden's influence doesn't show up much either.
It's good to hear you like Priest anyway though, so at least we're not just letting this devolve into quabbling about the quality of the bands. All I'm saying is Maiden and Priest both had a huge impact on the scene, whether modern extreme metal takes overt cues from them or not. Just because metal coming out today isn't as oriented toward trad or power metal doesn't diminish what Priest did...although, really, I'd say there's plenty of notable material coming out that is trad and power metal, anyway.
FAQ
Register
Login
).
