Pretty much every song they do sounds just like this, so there you have it. Utter tripe.

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Willie Nelson on a Megadeth album isn't something I ever saw coming.

I like a little Disturbed now and again, but I doubt this will turn out well. That has more to do with Megadeth's recent output as a whole than any real issue with David Draiman though. Thirteen sucked shit and this probably will too.

I remember distrubed doing a song about the holocaust called 'never again' and it just sounded like down with the sickness. Draiman even did the whole half singing, half rapping thing with lines like (i'm paraphrasing) 'rushed into the deathcamps', 'a sickening lust for genoicde' in front of the standard half-groove riffs and bouncing chugs that distrubed songs usually have. It kind of illustrates for me that my main issue with distrubed is it seems like they've been making the same album for the long time even when it isn't interesting or entertaining at all or when the song doesn't at all call for it.

I find this more amusing than anything, since I don't really listen to megadeth at all (I haven't even heard their classic 80's-early 90's material) since most of the metal genres I listen to (power, black, death, viking) have most of their classics and roots in the 90's or late 80's. Outside of thrash, the only "classic" heavy metal stuff I listen to in some way influences power metal (Iron maiden, manilla road, helloween) and on that note I need to go through all of dio's discography.

Big tangent there, but I don't really know where draiman would fit in the middle of a megadeth song, certainly not in anything that is straight thrashing, my guess is they'll try to stick him in a slower song; I'll agree with the thread's consensus that draiman is technically a good vocalist but has really annoying habits that limit his potential. Also, metantonie that twitter pic was hilarious, as was scrafty's comment.

It's true that Draiman wouldn't fit on a thrash song, but Megadeth does minimal thrashing these days, so no worries!

Actually, no, every song DOESN'T sound like that...

Draiman has a good voice. If he's well directed, he might do a more than acceptable work. I 've never heard Draiman outside the nu metal territory, so this could be his chance to prove he can be a decent vocalist. I'm not a Disturbed fan by any means, but I recall heard him singing some cool lines, like 'Remember' is a pretty decent song. He should try to join a metal band full time.

On the other hand, Dave can't sing. Maybe we're used to his poor voice, but the guy has always been a bad singer and now is even worse.

Can't stand Draiman at all! But then, Mustaine had the Lacuna Coil singer on hand to mutilate "A Tout Le Monde" so anything's possible with him.
I found it quite amusing a few years back though when Eric Adams (of Manowar) rated Draiman highly.

Fucking hell this made me cry from laughter, well played.

"Just like the pied-piper ock-ock, ock-ock Ooooh-wah-ah-ah-aaaaaah". I've got this vision of David Draiman making Dave Mustaine adopt his vocal trickery because he thinks it'd somehow work, even though it clearly wouldn't. At least, I don't think he'll ruin Megadeth's rapidly dwindling reputation more than Mustaine's already done.

Will the recording studio be able to handle not one, but TWO colossa egos?

Wut? not classics? you are faaaaar from right, the fact you dont like Megadeth its a complete different thing. They have 2 or 3 complete classic albums to say the least. Im surprised that someone can actually dislike Rust in Peace and Peace Sells!




oh metalheads...we enjoy some shit arse music and bash things like these, that are at least, not completely mediocre. I find myself bashing Disturbed and then worshiping some crap ass black metal band from eastern europe. Anyway, fuck this guy and fuck present Dave Mustaine.

Still better than "So Far, So Good, SO WA-A-A-A.

I'm not sure what to think of this collaboration. Hopefully Draiman just uses his "normal" singing voice and not his scat monkey call. Wondering if Dave having this guy appear on his album is another attempt at a #1 album. He's tried before and we all know how that worked out (Countdown was ok, but Risk, dear god....).

As long as Draiman doesn't tour with Megadeth it won't be the end of the world. However, Draiman is the worst, most boring front-man in the history of music as far as I'm concerned. I'll never see a band of his again. Decent singer. Complete and utter turd on stage.

(and off of it, apparently)

PS: I hope he doesn't go after me in all-caps now that I said that.

I'm going to hope that wherever Draiman's lines appear in the lyrics, they are in ALLCAPS.

I'm not expecting anything good from Dave Mustaine in the year 2013.

What.

Disturbed is pretty much the only "alt-metal-whatever" band along with System of a Down that I find decent. It's not something I would go out of my way to listen but if it's playing, I won't complain.

And Draiman is a good singer. Nice voice, good tone and a very distinctive style. Naturally, if you're not into it, it's fucking grating.

This goes for all artists: Know what the difference is between a gimmick and a signature? There's actually none except how each person feels about it.

At this point in Megadeth's career, it's not really surprising to find a guy like Draiman collaborating.

Metantoine: Those tweets are fucking epic, my friend

Hilarity!

Also yeah, I'll agree with other people on David's voice. It isn't bad and Disturbed is alright. And this only sounds weird because David has never done vocals for a thrash band.

This shit cracked me up so badly

I'm listening to the Device album right now actually. First three songs are Disturbed with some synths thrown in, but then I hit the Ozzy cover and it's, well, not Disturbed? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4LbTgdHzbE

Excellent. Mustaine's still chasing that fleeting scrap of mainstream success he hasn't had since '97, if not longer.

What Megadeth fans want: Just one, ONE, balls-out thrasher of a song trading off leads with Marty like they used to. Maybe another exchanging verses with Chuck Billy and/or Zetro or Mark Osegueda or someone worthwhile that can call back to where this band came from and introduce younger fans to Megadeth's peers.

What Megadeth fans are going to get: Another mid-tempo "rocker" of a single rehashing a couple riffs Dave's already used before and in better form, while one of the most annoying and posturing frontmen in FM radio rock over the past decade-plus chants and stutters along through some predictable singalong pre-chorus/chorus. Because that's where the band's strength always lied: the vocals. I guess Cristina Scabbia was just "too underground" for it to work the last time.

Hell no I dont want Chuck Billy anywhere near this band

Chuck billy rapes most of thrash singers nowadays, especially Dave.

I heard that device stuff. Better than disturbed for sure.

You really think so? I listened to it and apart from 2-3 songs I think it's a really boring album. Repetitive drums, boring guitars, mundane cookie cutter synths, and some very akward vocal lines..... It's pretty much Disturbed stripped of everything that made Disturbed a decent band.

From Disturbed, I think they have only a handful of decent tracks. This Device stuff was at least more sonically interesting, but for sure it could be way, way better with real riffs and more aggressive and varied drumming. The vocal lines and style are 100% disturbed tho; Dreiman should at least try to add a bit of variety.

Ay, the style is the same, but to me the guitars and drums lack any sort of identity or feeling.... they are pretty much just hired goons to do Draimans bidding. I also find the songwriting to be sub par when compared to that of Disturbed.

About the vocal lines, Draiman has gotten really fond of being very loud. He always was a loud vocalist, but some of the lines on Device are just silly because of the loudness. A couple of times it happens at the end of a otherwise fine vocal line and it completely destroys my immersion.

Way to miss the entire point of that one section in my post just to comment on a haphazard hypothetical which in all likelihood will never happen anyway.

If there's any silver lining to this, it's that Dave will no longer have Capitol or Sanctuary or Roadrunner to blame when this album ultimately fails to deliver again on what he at least hinted getting back to with Endgame. Mustaine was at his best when he was in competition with himself and having his own studio, label, and well-known producer whom won't challenge him is just going to squat out another album as interchangeable as the last 3 or 4 now. Say what you will about work ethic and regular output, but it doesn't mean much when it's on this degree of autopilot.

I'm actually really looking forward to buying the Device self titled soon, from what I've heard of it. But that's departing from the topic.

I for one think it would be hilarious if Willy Nelson guested on Super Collider to do another cover of These Boots.

Honestly, I enjoy Draiman's random vocal whatevers, though that's mainly because of my love for electronica. They're basically just stabs (like the woops, yoi synths, etc. used in EDM) except vocals, and I totally appreciate and enjoy that. I like Draiman's singing, too, of course, but all of the later stuff where he does most of his clean singing is boring for me music-wise. At least their first album (which I do shamelessly enjoy parts of) had some kind of energy behind it. The stuff nowadays just seems watered down and boring, much like -- no shit! -- Megadeth. I tried my hardest to enjoy the last two albums, but TH1RT3EN was, as a lot of people have said, simply the old stuff rehashed into some mid-tempo thrashy rock. Who knows, maybe the album will be perfect... for those that enjoy later Disturbed and/or later Megadeth. :P

Yeah I know nitpicking is annoying but some things just need to be pointed out, you said "what Megadeth fans want" and as a fan I just pointed out what I damn sure dont want...but thats only one thing that was wrong with your post, you also talked about Megadeth's "peers" which kinda implies that Chuck Billy and his stupid band are somehow "peers" to Megadeth and thats just plain wrong.

But nitpicking aside, I think you're being a bit too negative about this whole thing...13 was Megadeth's last album with Roadrunner so I think they pretty much did the Deicide with them just to get out of that deal, why do you think one third of the whole album was just re-recorded old songs and Guns Drugs & Money only had like one riff throughout the entire song? Hell even Deadly Nightshade was based around a 15-year-old Megadeth riff. There's a high chance that they've saved all the really good stuff for this new album and the album is gonna kick ass like Endgame.

The same way the similarly-aged people attending the same school you go to are your "peers," why wouldn't the similarly-aged people playing the same genre (generalizing to thrash metal for my point here) as Megadeth not be their peers?

because english isnt my first language and up to this point I had completely misunderstood the meaning of the word "peer"?

What is wrong with getting someone like Bobby Blitz or Mark Osegueda or even Warrel Dane to guest? It is as if Dave Mustaine is deliberately oblivious to thrash metal. Probably the only worthy bands he'd concede to from the scene are the washed up corpses of Metallica, Slayer and Anthrax with whom he shares the "prestigious Big 4" moniker.

Instaed we have one of the blandest pseudo-aggressive singers to ever exist gracing a Megadeth record? The horror...

No.

Yes.

I'd take Mr. Dane over Draiman any damn day!

And now you know.