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| Author: | doomster999 [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
LegendMaker wrote: Dead_Joe wrote: Can anyone confirm the correct way to pronounce Mike Scheidt from YOB's last name? What's YOB? Not sure where the guy's from, but this looks to me like the German name that's roughly pronounced "shite" (with a silent D and short T sound). Actually this is YOB.  I pronounce his surname as Sh-Aye-Et.
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| Author: | hakarl [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
I'd pronounce it shy-dt, thoug I'd be inclined to do the whole German sch thing. |
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| Author: | Zerberus [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
LegendMaker wrote: Wait, so "undergang" is actually a Danish word? It looks just like a combo of "under" and "gang" in English. I would have pronounced it just like that (and imagined it referred to a whole gang of underdogs). What does it actually mean, then? Yes, Undergang is a completely Danish word. It means apocalypse or downfall. The "under" is the same as in English, meaningwise. "Gang" is completely different though. It sort of means "progress" or "course". Together it sort of means "going under". When shit goes down. Downfall is probably the best litteral translation. |
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| Author: | Marag [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
I always assumed it meant something like that, since it's similiar to german "untergang" which means downfall too. It would be a silly name if it was in english. Under gang? |
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| Author: | LegendMaker [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Thanks for the replies, guys. Never heard of YOB (not surprisingly, as I don't much care for stoner/doom; sorry, doomster999, not everybody does ^^) and I thought these were initials for a band's name called Year Of Bleuargh or something, rather than the actual name.  I think a gang of underdogs would sound quite cool, actually. Ilwhyan wrote: I'd pronounce it shy-dt, thoug I'd be inclined to do the whole German sch thing. What German sch thing? As far as I know, "sch" is pronounced exactly like "sh" in German, perhaps with a few exceptions (much like in French and various other languages). |
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| Author: | Morrigan [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
LegendMaker wrote: Morrigan wrote: the "eu" sound does not exist in English. It sort of does: "uh", or indeed in words like "Sir" or "merge" (the first E). What's very very hard for English speakers is the French sound U, though; the closest I've found is in how "suppose" is generally pronounced. Well like I said, you can find a roughly close equivalent but it's still not quite the same sound. Funnily enough, the "euh" sound from "sir" or "merge" sound much closer to how Québécois speakers pronounce the "euh" sound than the French. For example, one of my brother's friends once travelled to France and tried to ask for butter. His way of pronouncing "beurre" baffled the waiter (almost like an English "birr"), who then said "ah, du beu(uu)rre!" when he finally understood what he meant. And yes the French U sound baffles the English speakers. I usually try to explain it's like the German ü and for some reason they often grasp that more easily. Probably because most people have heard the word "führer" being pronounced correctly at some point and that gives them an idea. |
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| Author: | Zerberus [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Marag wrote: I always assumed it meant something like that, since it's similiar to german "untergang" which means downfall too. It would be a silly name if it was in english. Under gang? Yup. Definitely the same word there. And yeah, "under gang" would be silly |
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| Author: | hakarl [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
LegendMaker wrote: Thanks for the replies, guys. Never heard of YOB (not surprisingly, as I don't much care for stoner/doom; sorry, doomster999, not everybody does ^^) and I thought these were initials for a band's name called Year Of Bleuargh or something, rather than the actual name. I think a gang of underdogs would sound quite cool, actually. Ilwhyan wrote: I'd pronounce it shy-dt, thoug I'd be inclined to do the whole German sch thing. What German sch thing? As far as I know, "sch" is pronounced exactly like "sh" in German, perhaps with a few exceptions (much like in French and various other languages). I think English speakers pronounce 'sh' with approximate similarity to the German 'sch' in some words at least, but the effect is somewhat exaggerated for the lack of a better word. Google yielded this, I haven't checked the sound samples though: http://www.pauljoycegerman.co.uk/pronou ... onsch.html Understanding the Danish word gang: in Swedish, it's spelled gång, where the 'å' letter is effectively an 'o' as in the English word 'orgy'. It's easy to derive 'going' from that. Undergang, undergoing, thus falling under or downfall. |
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| Author: | Faster Than You [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Sarcofago I don't even try saying it. |
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| Author: | Thexhumed [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Faster Than You wrote: Sarcofago I don't even try saying it. It is pronounced just as it's written. Sar as in "César" ( I really hope you know some guy called César) co as in cold fa as in "fun" go as in got The stress is in CO. By the way, how do you pronounce Gojira? |
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| Author: | Foulchrist [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Zircofugaw.  I have no idea what that Gojira band is really referencing with their name, but whenever I see it I assume it's an Engrish translation of Godzilla, so that's how I would pronounce it. |
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| Author: | Marag [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Thexhumed wrote: It is pronounced just as it's written. The "co" is spoken, I don't know how to explain this, an open "o". Like an "oh" I guess. It's not that different from the english "sarcophagus" so it shouldn't be too hard. |
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| Author: | OzzyApu [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Foulchrist wrote: Zircofugaw. No, I think he meant César as in "seh-sahr", like a latino name. Sahr-ko-fuh-go |
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| Author: | Subrick [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
For the longest time I pronounced Alcest as "Al-say", what with the band being French and all. Then I found out a few days ago that Neige said it's pronounced "Al-sest", so now I've been trying to kick that habit whenever I say the name of the band. I also used to pronounce Celtic Frost as "Keltic Frost", but I'm sure everyone at one point or another has mispronounced that name in that way. |
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| Author: | Zerberus [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Foulchrist wrote: Zircofugaw. I have no idea what that Gojira band is really referencing with their name, but whenever I see it I assume it's an Engrish translation of Godzilla, so that's how I would pronounce it. Gojira is what Godzilla was called in Japanese originally. Regarding the pronounciation I've heard people trying to say it in a French way because the band is French, but I usually just say it in the Japanese-English way. |
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| Author: | PurpleDoom [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Gojira is pronounced pretty much the same way it looks - go (like the english go) - ji (like the letter G) - ra (maybe "rah" or "ruh"). Quote: ...whenever I see it I assume it's an Engrish translation of Godzilla, so that's how I would pronounce it. Actually, Gojira was the original name and Godzilla is the anglicized version for English-speaking audiences. |
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| Author: | ~Guest 82538 [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Gôdjírá - with a semi-long "ô" Sarcófago - Actually it's said pretty much as it's written, although you have different Portuguese accents to go by. If you go by Portugal's accent then it's pronounced with a "dry tone" and a very sibilant "s". It's not "tser" but more like "sser", like a dragged "s", and the "e" reads as in the English pronunciation of "sir". The second "a" is kind of broken, like "fã", and the "go" reads like "gu". So it's similar to this: "Ssercófãgu" If you go by the Brazilian accent though, and depending on the region, it's more like "Sárcófágu", again with a "dry tone". By "dry tone" I mean the opposite of having hot potatoes in your mouth. |
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| Author: | Foulchrist [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Zerberus wrote: Gojira is what Godzilla was called in Japanese originally. Hah, no way. Thought it was just coincidence that it sounded a bit like Godzilla in a Japanese accent. |
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| Author: | ~Guest 285196 [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Subrick wrote: I also used to pronounce Celtic Frost as "Keltic Frost", but I'm sure everyone at one point or another has mispronounced that name in that way. I always assumed that it was "celtic" as in "celtic peoples" of western Europe. And Wikipedia proceeds thusly on their article: /ˈkɛltɪk frɒst/, where "k" is like the "k" in "kind". So, in my book (for now), you did say it correct before. |
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| Author: | ~Guest 171512 [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
I don't mispronounce it through ignorance, but laziness: Vintersorg. I know it's pronounced more like 'veen-tuh-soo-ree', but I usually just say 'vin-ter-sorg'... unless I'm trying to get a cheap feeling of superiority over (most of) my friends.  One name that nearly everyone mispronounces (including me until several months ago) is Týr. It's not pronounced 'teer', but 'tweer' (with a rolled 'r'). Faroese is fucking weird. Oh, here's one that irritates the hell out of me: Cirith Ungol. The band themselves pronounce the 'c' as an 's', which is fucking wrong. If you're going to name yourself after something from a book that has an explicit pronunciation guide in the back, then take the time to make sure you're saying it correctly. I refuse to pronounce it as the band do; it's not their name to mispronounce. |
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| Author: | hakarl [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Regarding Vintersorg, the last bit which you wrote as 'ree' is pronounced with a rolling 'r' followed by something like the 'y' in 'yay', approximately. |
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| Author: | ~Guest 171512 [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What bands do you mispronounce? |
Ilwhyan wrote: Regarding Vintersorg, the last bit which you wrote as 'ree' is pronounced with a rolling 'r' followed by something like the 'y' in 'yay', approximately. Oh yeah, I know, I just didn't think to write that down. Thank you. 
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