Yeah, RiB is one of the worst metal albums of all time, totally not influential and it's also not a classic.

Nhor, yeah, you're a very poor poster with an extremely shitty attitude.

You must be extremely new to say that with any sincerity.

John Dette apparently nailed the Slayer set in his first show today.

And if this set list is correct then Disciple is the only post Seasons song they're playing. Usually they'll get some newer material out of the way in the first 5 or 6 songs and then delve into the '80s, but this is pretty much no bullshit: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/slayer/20 ... b23fd.html

http://blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=186647 Tom's obviously not being allowed to say anything regarding Dave but I find his general carefree attitude rather insulting considering the circumstances. When he talks about Jeff he is completely stoned cold but when it's concerning Dave he just laughs about it like it's a joke.

Because Jeff always wrote killer Slayer songs? Even on the new albums, my favourite songs tend to be the Hanneman Hits, as opposed to the King Krap.

At this point Slayer is functioning on fumes and it's obvious. When certain members of bands start getting the "one man band syndrome" all things eventually unravel. Dave and Jeff are important parts of Slayer. Doesn't matter if Kerry does this and Kerry does that. Look at Roger Water's current traveling abortion of Pink Floyd and so many other examples. Once arrogance and ego get in the way of a band's cohesiveness, it drains all enthusiasm.

Also, yes the early Slayer albums were classics, but guess what their stuff after had some def highlights we all too easily brush under the carpet for some stupid reason. If you took an otherwise ignorant metal fan and hit shuffle on the ipod full of Slayer's albums would he/she really come out of the experience saying only the songs off the first four albums were any good? I think not.

Also, all this worship of SIB and Dave's performance on the album are pretty funny to me. Dave could barely get through the recording sessions according to himself in a magazine interview after he was let go from Slayer in the 90s. They had to speed up his double bass on War Ensemble with studio tricks cause he wasn't able to cut it.

Divine Intervention was a fine effort by Slayer but there is something seriously fucking wrong with putting it in the vicinity of Reign In Blood, one of the best metal albums of all time.

I still don't understand why people care that Jeff isn't in Slayer anymore? I mean, I hope he recovers and stuff, but talk about going through the motions, he barely contributed anything to the band anymore, live or in the studio.

Dave could barely get through the recording sessions according to himself in a magazine interview after he was let go from Slayer in the 90s. They had to speed up his double bass on War Ensemble with studio tricks cause he wasn't able to cut it.

^^^Best I can find is some tool on Blabbermouth saying Lombardo's drums on War Ensemble were sped up.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?m ... mID=128021

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Am I the only one who finds this "unholy trinity" of albums a bit dubious? I mean I'd take Hell Awaits over SITA any day. The drums on War Ensemble were sped up in the studio because Lombardo wasn't able to record them live at full speed. That admission right there is enough to disqualify SITA as a classic in my opinion."

EDIT: Turns out FJ and ohu sick are both from Virginia. The plot thickens...

What an ignorant comment. Jeff wrote Psychopathy Red which is the most thrashy and kickass song they put out in the 15 years prior to WPB.

Don't be immature. We're the same person; there's no conspiracy. Dave is/was one of my heroes. I used to get Metal Maniacs magazine as a teenager. As Metal Maniacs is no more, I don't have an issue number to point to. It was the one around 1994/1995 with Dave Lombardo on the cover. In it he talks candidly about his departure with Slayer and his formation of Grip INC. He also talks about how he had difficulty recording War Ensemble and the double bass part was giving him a lot of trouble. He explained his side and it was that Slayer's manager wanted him to sit higher on the drum stand so fans could see him during the shows. He kept this habit of sitting higher all the time. He said in that position he couldn't play as fast double bass, and he didn't realize this at the time during the studio sessions. He said they decided to record his double bass in half time and then it was sped up. If anyone has this issue still take a look. I think I still have it but I'm not going through my parents attic to prove a point I know to be officially recorded and true.

Also, all this worship of SIB and Dave's performance on the album are pretty funny to me. Dave could barely get through the recording sessions according to himself in a magazine interview after he was let go from Slayer in the 90s. They had to speed up his double bass on War Ensemble with studio tricks cause he wasn't able to cut it.

Seasons In Blood or South In Blood!

RiB is a good album to the uninitiated metalhead, but really there are far better metal albums out there when you start exploring.

Divine Intervention is one of them.

Show No Mercy: Best Thrash Metal album of ALL TIME. Hell Awaits I liked a lot less but it was pretty cool. Haunting the Chapel was very, very outstanding except for Aggessive Perfector(if included there), a track I never liked. I enjoyed RiB. South and Seasons were quite good. I consider myself among the throes who pretend Slayer disbanded after 1990.

This is true. Reign in Blood is fantastic but there are tons of albums that got way less attention that were better


Lol no. Reign in Blood's quality may be overrated due to its historical impact, but Divine Intervention is just flat-out terrible.